olp1fan Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report Russian warships have entered Syrian territorial waters in an aggressive move designed to prevent any NATO-led attack on the country under the guise of a “humanitarian intervention”. “Russian warships are due to arrive at Syrian territorial waters, a Syrian news agency said on Thursday, indicating that the move represented a clear message to the West that Moscow would resist any foreign intervention in the country’s civil unrest,” reports Haaretz. Russia has stepped up efforts to defend Syria in recent days, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov keen to frame the violence in the country as a civil war in defiance of claims by western powers that President Bashar al-Assad has overseen a bloody crackdown on innocent protesters. As we saw prior to the attack on Libya, which was also framed as a “humanitarian intervention,” NATO powers are keen to demonize Assad’s government by characterizing attacks by his forces as atrocities while largely ignoring similar attacks by opposition forces, such as this week’s raid on a Syrian air force intelligence complex that killed or wounded 20 security police. U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner rejects Russia’s claim that Syria is in a civil war, stating, “We believe it’s very much the Assad regime carrying out a campaign of violence, intimidation, and repression against innocent protesters.” Of course, we heard similar rhetoric even as NATO-backed Al-Qaeda rebels were commandeering fighter jets and firing rocket-propelled grenades in Libya, actions also undertaken by “innocent protesters,” we were told at the time. As we have previously reported, despite overwhelming speculation that Iran will be the next target of a military assault, Syria is the likeliest target for the next salvo of NATO-backed regime change. US President Barack Obama got the ball rolling back in August when he called on President al-Assad to step down. The UN has already withdrawn all non-essential staff from the country. Without Russia’s help, Syria would be largely defenseless against a NATO attack. “I don’t see any purely military problems. Syria has no defence against Western systems … [but] it would be more risky than Libya. It would be a heavy military operation,” former French air force chief Jean Rannou commented. Given that the western press has proven adept at manufacturing lies to justify military interventions, whether the actions of Assad’s regime represent genuine atrocities or legitimate conduct in the midst of a civil war remains unclear. Some have claimed the abuses are being embellished, while both former CIA agent Robert Baer and ex-MI6 officer Alastair Crooke point out that the Syrian people definitely want change, but not in the form of a NATO “humanitarian” assault. (The EU Times) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report Russian warships have entered Syrian territorial waters in an aggressive move designed to prevent any NATO-led attack on the country under the guise of a humanitarian intervention. Russian warships are due to arrive at Syrian territorial waters, a Syrian news agency said on Thursday, indicating that the move represented a clear message to the West that Moscow would resist any foreign intervention in the countrys civil unrest, reports Haaretz. Russia has stepped up efforts to defend Syria in recent days, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov keen to frame the violence in the country as a civil war in defiance of claims by western powers that President Bashar al-Assad has overseen a bloody crackdown on innocent protesters. As we saw prior to the attack on Libya, which was also framed as a humanitarian intervention, NATO powers are keen to demonize Assads government by characterizing attacks by his forces as atrocities while largely ignoring similar attacks by opposition forces, such as this weeks raid on a Syrian air force intelligence complex that killed or wounded 20 security police. U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner rejects Russias claim that Syria is in a civil war, stating, We believe its very much the Assad regime carrying out a campaign of violence, intimidation, and repression against innocent protesters. Of course, we heard similar rhetoric even as NATO-backed Al-Qaeda rebels were commandeering fighter jets and firing rocket-propelled grenades in Libya, actions also undertaken by innocent protesters, we were told at the time. As we have previously reported, despite overwhelming speculation that Iran will be the next target of a military assault, Syria is the likeliest target for the next salvo of NATO-backed regime change. US President Barack Obama got the ball rolling back in August when he called on President al-Assad to step down. The UN has already withdrawn all non-essential staff from the country. Without Russias help, Syria would be largely defenseless against a NATO attack. I dont see any purely military problems. Syria has no defence against Western systems … [but] it would be more risky than Libya. It would be a heavy military operation, former French air force chief Jean Rannou commented. Given that the western press has proven adept at manufacturing lies to justify military interventions, whether the actions of Assads regime represent genuine atrocities or legitimate conduct in the midst of a civil war remains unclear. Some have claimed the abuses are being embellished, while both former CIA agent Robert Baer and ex-MI6 officer Alastair Crooke point out that the Syrian people definitely want change, but not in the form of a NATO humanitarian assault. (The EU Times) 1.Are you suggesting that the Assad regime,including father and son) have not been a bloodthirsty regime in the past? (Hama anyone?) 2.This is'nt that shocking...The Ba'Athist regime in Damascus DID have ties to the former Soviet Union,even though they would be considered ideologically opposed to each other? 3.Are championing Putin,the KGB thug in Moscow,for standing up to the potential NATO (US) agression in Syria? Edited November 20, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Russia has a naval base in Syria, plus I wanna see the world come close to a nuclear war, I wasn't around for the Cuban Missile Crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Russia has a naval base in Syria, plus I wanna see the world come close to a nuclear war, I wasn't around for the Cuban Missile Crisis Is your mom's basement soundproof? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Is your mom's basement soundproof? no, which is why I can't take girls down there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Russia has a naval base in Syria, plus I wanna see the world come close to a nuclear war, I wasn't around for the Cuban Missile Crisis Classy... And,Escathologically speaking,you may be close to getting your wish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Russia has a naval base in Syria, plus I wanna see the world come close to a nuclear war, I wasn't around for the Cuban Missile Crisis Why do want to see the world come close to nuclear war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 The Rooskies planned a naval base in Libya too....ooops...too late! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-01-16/russia-plans-navy-bases-in-libya-syria-yemen-report/268898 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Russia should be more concerned about her demographics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Why do want to see the world come close to nuclear war? I wasn't being serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukin Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I wasn't being serious Iran is disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Gazprom built a large natural gas refinery a few years ago outside of Damascus..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Gazprom built a large natural gas refinery a few years ago outside of Damascus..... Mnnooooo Shocking,I tells ya'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Iran is disappointed. What I don't understand is why does Israel not let inspectors inspect their nukes but they want inspectors to inspect Iran...do as I say not as I do? I know Iran and Syria are allies and Russia, Syria and Iran are allies so it kind of makes sense for Russia to be protecting Syria from NATO aggression Edited November 20, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek L Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Mnnooooo Shocking,I tells ya'.... Yuppers…….And last month, Iran cancelled production contracts with Gazprom and the Chinese (state owned) oil company……..So it’s clear, Iran is next Edited November 20, 2011 by Derek L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Gazprom built a large natural gas refinery a few years ago outside of Damascus..... Bingo. Russia is also interested in what is going on with the huge deposits found off the Israeli- Cyprus coast and another large oil deposit off Gaza as is Turkey, China, India and the West. Remember Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz? We aint following the yellow brick rose in this play, we follow the oil deposits and refineries. Russia-Cowardly Lion China-Scarecrow US/Europe-Tin Man UN-Wizard of Oz Iran-Wicked Witch of the West Hamas-Flying Monkeys Israel-Toto Arab League-The Munchkins Saudi Arabia-Mayor of Munchkin land Dorothy-leftists on this board but they still think they are in Kansas Edited November 21, 2011 by Rue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 LMFAO @ Israel being Toto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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