Canada at war with Iran

[Guest Derek L]

so if the NDP and libs oppose a war against iran and its just the cons that vote for that war

what then? should we fight it anyway? if the majority of the country isn't for the war and the cons push it through anyway

what then?

The Conservative’s formed the government…….so their views on foreign policy are a known quality……..The Liberals, brought us into Afghanistan, the Tories continued with the policy, with the support of the Liberals. Don’t Conservative and Liberal voters in Canada make-up the majority?

[olp1fan]

The Conservative’s formed the government…….so their views on foreign policy are a known quality……..The Liberals, brought us into Afghanistan, the Tories continued with the policy, with the support of the Liberals. Don’t Conservative and Liberal voters in Canada make-up the majority?

omg I am not talking about Afghanistan which yes was supported by Libs

why can't you just answer the question instead of fiddling around it?

[Guest Derek L]

you quoted the adage to make your point but all it did was contradict with what you said before

Not a contradiction at all. I explained my word usage.

we have no interests in israel...majority of canadians are against any new war in the middle east

As I said above, we don’t have interests in Israel per say, but we share common interests. (A stable Middle East)

I find it funny that israels most ardent supporters aren't going to be the ones putting their lives on the line

like you

do you promise to enlist should Harper drag Canada into a war with Iran and other countries?

How many years did you serve? I served ~13 years, and spent over a decade as a class B & C reservist, and my younger brother is currently in the reg force (Army) and my father is retired RN/RCN…..to add, my daughter will be applying to RMC next year.

[Guest Derek L]

omg I am not talking about Afghanistan which yes was supported by Libs

why can't you just answer the question instead of fiddling around it?

Both operations were supported by two major political parties, and said support, never proved to be an election issue.

Edited November 13, 2011 by Derek L

[olp1fan]

Not a contradiction at all. I explained my word usage.

As I said above, we don’t have interests in Israel per say, but we share common interests. (A stable Middle East)

How many years did you serve? I served ~13 years, and spent over a decade as a class B & C reservist, and my younger brother is currently in the reg force (Army) and my father is retired RN/RCN…..to add, my daughter will be applying to RMC next year.

awesome, so answer my question, will you sign up to fight with israel against iran and a number of other countries?

I am obviously against war...why would I sign up to be in one?

I am not the one pushing for a war but YOU are so don't f****** ask me if I served

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[olp1fan]

Both operations were supported by two major political parties, and said support, never proved to be an election issue.

you fiddled around the question AGAIN, let me ask you once more

Should the NDP & Liberals oppose war against Iran and the Cons support a war against Iran should Canada go to war against Iran

even with Parliament this divided?

[Guest Derek L]

awesome, so answer my question, will you sign up to fight with israel against iran and a number of other countries?

I am obviously against war...why would I sign up to be in one?

I am not the one pushing for a war but YOU are so don't f****** ask me if I served

I’m still on the Supp Res list, no need to "sign up".......

[olp1fan]

I’m still on the Supp Res list, no need to "sign up".......

I am sure you can't wait then since you seem like the kind that probably believes Jerusalem will be the last standing city in the world

[Guest Derek L]

you fiddled around the question AGAIN, let me ask you once more

Should the NDP & Liberals oppose war against Iran and the Cons support a war against Iran should Canada go to war against Iran

even with Parliament this divided?

The Conservatives have a majority, so yes, and based on precedent, outside of the second Iraq war and Vietnam (Which Liberal governments did both support indirectly) the Liberals aren’t shy either, so your hypothetical is not based in reality.

[Guest Derek L]

I am sure you can't wait then since you seem like the kind that probably believes Jerusalem will be the last standing city in the world

I don't follow.

[olp1fan]

Globe and Mail is a pretty conservative paper but read the comments on this article about Canada and Israel and Iran

most want no part of this war

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/defence-minister-says-he-will-speak-with-israel-about-reported-plans-to-attack-iran/article2234766/comments/

Fox Snews

11:18 PM on November 12, 2011

Keep Canada out of that mess.

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Score: 199

[olp1fan]

The Conservatives have a majority, so yes, and based on precedent, outside of the second Iraq war and Vietnam (Which Liberal governments did both support indirectly) the Liberals aren’t shy either, so your hypothetical is not based in reality.

You and your family are war hawks. why am I trying to talk some sense into you?

we don't belong in the middle east that is not a war we should be concerned with

its not like our soveriengty is being attacked

I bet you wanted us to deploy thousands of troops to Iraq too..

Have fun killing innocent people to satisfy your war thirst

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[Guest Derek L]

Globe and Mail is a pretty conservative paper but read the comments on this article about Canada and Israel and Iran

most want no part of this war

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/defence-minister-says-he-will-speak-with-israel-about-reported-plans-to-attack-iran/article2234766/comments/

Fox Snews

11:18 PM on November 12, 2011

Keep Canada out of that mess.

15 replies

Score: 199

So you would base policy from the comments on a message board?

[olp1fan]

So you would base policy from the comments on a message board?

The people speak their minds on message boards because the MPs we elect go by party policy

this is not a real democracy

if we were a real democracy we'd have a referendum right now to decide whether to support israel in a war against iran

but we won't, the people will have no choice

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[Guest Derek L]

You and your family are war hawks. why am I trying to talk some sense into you?

we don't belong in the middle east that is not a war we should be concerned with

its not like our soveriengty is being attacked

I bet you wanted us to deploy thousands of troops to Iraq too..

Have fun killing innocent people to satisfy your war thirst

War Hawks? War thirst? Perhaps, but without the families like mine, and millions of others, you wouldn’t be able to post your infantile opinions in public without fear of repression.

My parents generation occupied Europe, your generation occupies city parks.

[bush_cheney2004]

....My parents generation occupied Europe, your generation occupies city parks.

Oooooo...I like that. Touche!

[olp1fan]

War Hawks? War thirst? Perhaps, but without the families like mine, and millions of others, you wouldn’t be able to post your infantile opinions in public without fear of repression.

You can't support that opinion with anything other than your opinion

My parents generation occupied Europe, your generation occupies city parks.

World War 1 was a stupid war because it started out as a war with 2 meaningless countries and snow balled into a world war

World War 2 had to be fought

But I don't see why Canada should get involved in a war with Israel and Iran

the only people who want us to fight Iran are the blood thirsty war hawks

there really is no reason for us to fight

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[olp1fan]

Oooooo...I like that. Touche!

totally, he went from his parents generation to my generation while totally skipping his generation of being scared of "the commies" sissies

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[blueblood]

You can't support that opinion with anything other than your opinion

World War 1 was a stupid war because it started out as a war with 2 meaningless countries and snow balled into a world war

World War 2 had to be fought

But I don't see why Canada should get involved in a war with Israel and Iran

the only people who want us to fight Iran are the blood thirsty war hawks

there really is no reason for us to fight

Godwin award win coming up in 3....2....1..... Here we go...

In pre ww2 the western world followed your line of thinking and it enabled nazi Germany to build an army and conquer countries. Afterwards, the USA, the USSR, and china said never again and any perceived threat won't be tolerated even if it was those countriy's fear of each other. Heck that's what the cold war was about, the fear of the other side from being too powerful and threatening the other.

Fast forward to today, anybody becoming a threat is closely watched and in some cases dealt with.

[Guest Derek L]

You can't support that opinion with anything other than your opinion

Why is that?

World War 1 was a stupid war because it started out as a war with 2 meaningless countries and snow balled into a world war

World War 2 had to be fought

Why did WW II have to be fought?

But I don't see why Canada should get involved in a war with Israel and Iran

the only people who want us to fight Iran are the blood thirsty war hawks

there really is no reason for us to fight

What fuels our world economy? (pun intended)

[blueblood]

totally, he went from his parents generation to my generation while totally skipping his generation of being scared of "the commies" sissies

That fear of The commies bankrupted the USSR and gave eastern Europeans the opportunity to have more freedom than ever.

Edited November 13, 2011 by blueblood

[olp1fan]

Godwin award win coming up in 3....2....1..... Here we go...

In pre ww2 the western world followed your line of thinking and it enabled nazi Germany to build an army and conquer countries. Afterwards, the USA, the USSR, and china said never again and any perceived threat won't be tolerated even if it was those countriy's fear of each other. Heck that's what the cold war was about, the fear of the other side from being too powerful and threatening the other.

Fast forward to today, anybody becoming a threat is closely watched and in some cases dealt with.

Iran has a huge army but they are under fed ...and also that was before nukes were utilized ...much different world back then

but now there is the nuclear deterrent so your point doesn't hold an iota of credibility in 2011

that IS why Iran wants nukes..so people can't bully them anymore

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan

[Guest Derek L]

totally, he went from his parents generation to my generation while totally skipping his generation of being scared of "the commies" sissies

My Generation didn’t need to fight a global war with the Soviets, because of military deterrence……to borrow from SAC, “Peace was our Profession”……

[olp1fan]

My Generation didn’t need to fight a global war with the Soviets, because of military deterrence……to borrow from SAC, “Peace was our Profession”……

no instead your generation cowered behind proxy wars in numerous countries that you and the U.S.S.R divided and ruined

[olp1fan]

Derek L. your generation spied on the greatest Canadian of all time Tommy Douglas

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2011/11/12/sk-tommy-douglas-files-cp-1112.html

your generation was the most delusional, paranoid generation ever

Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan