William Ashley Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) http://tinyurl.com/7uvuofn Canada has openly stated they will support an attack on Iran. I'm wondering why this is not more in the public awareness that Canada is de jure at war with Iran and in violation of the UN charter, that mandates non interferance in internal affairs of other member states. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/defence-minister-says-he-will-speak-with-israel-about-reported-plans-to-attack-iran/article2234766/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2234766 what is this? http://titanprotectiongroup.com/blog/entry/second-iranian-banker-mehregan-amirkhosravi-move-to-canada-to-escape-banking-scandal-in-native-iran Edited November 13, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Canada should stay out of this until it involves other countries but if we should get involved I'd rather be on the winning side.. meaning the West but I'd rather we not get involved in anymore Muslim, Jewish bullshit Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
bjre Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Canada is just same as the United States, is a nation of dictator, democracy is a lie, just for fooling people. Otherwise, why don't vote for the war, to see how much percent support it. Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Moonlight Graham Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/7uvuofn Canada has openly stated they will support an attack on Iran. I'm wondering why this is not more in the public awareness that Canada is de jure at war with Iran and in violation of the UN charter, that mandates non interferance in internal affairs of other member states. Where has Canada aid anything of this sort? The links you provided show NOTHING of the sort, only that MacKay wants to ask the Israeli DM if they plan to attack or what their plans are. Said nothing of Canada's involvement whatsoever. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
WWWTT Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 This story actually scares me! The Harper government seems to be sticking its neck way out on this one! Supporting Isreal is one thing but to send military aid and risk Canadian interest and lives on their behalf?And they have not even bein attacked? Keep in mind that if Canada did this we would then become an enemy of Iran!And open ourselves up to attack from them! Harper and the conservatives are putting Isreals interest ahead of Canadas! If McKay and company keep this up their going to be the new liberals or fed. PC of 2015!(if you know what I mean) WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 http://tinyurl.com/7uvuofn Canada has openly stated they will support an attack on Iran. I'm wondering why this is not more in the public awareness that Canada is de jure at war with Iran and in violation of the UN charter, that mandates non interferance in internal affairs of other member states. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/defence-minister-says-he-will-speak-with-israel-about-reported-plans-to-attack-iran/article2234766/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A%20RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2234766 what is this? http://titanprotectiongroup.com/blog/entry/second-iranian-banker-mehregan-amirkhosravi-move-to-canada-to-escape-banking-scandal-in-native-iran Where has that been stated? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Canada should stay out of this until it involves other countries Why? but if we should get involved I'd rather be on the winning side.. meaning the West Why not flip a coin? Are you suggesting that if it looked like Iran would "win", you'd rather us "join them"? but I'd rather we not get involved in anymore Muslim, Jewish bullshit Why not? "Jewish bullshit" doesn’t affect our energy and economic security. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 This story actually scares me! The Harper government seems to be sticking its neck way out on this one! Supporting Isreal is one thing but to send military aid and risk Canadian interest and lives on their behalf?And they have not even bein attacked? Where has it been stated we will support them militarily? Keep in mind that if Canada did this we would then become an enemy of Iran!And open ourselves up to attack from them! Are we currently a “friend” of Iran? Harper and the conservatives are putting Isreals interest ahead of Canadas! How? If McKay and company keep this up their going to be the new liberals or fed. PC of 2015!(if you know what I mean) I suppose you’re right…….If we were to get involved, it would surely cost them the next election, just as the wars in Afghanistan and the military action in Libya did…. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 I suppose you’re right…….If we were to get involved, it would surely cost them the next election, just as the wars in Afghanistan and the military action in Libya did…. Majority of Canadians aren't too gungho for Israel or Iran... whats the point of going to war for either of them? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Why? Why not flip a coin? Are you suggesting that if it looked like Iran would "win", you'd rather us "join them"? Why not? "Jewish bullshit" doesn’t affect our energy and economic security. why? tell me why we should be concerned about Israel? we barely do trade with them what would Canada stand to lose ? Do you really want Canada to lose ALL world credability for a country that couldn't give two shits for Canada? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Majority of Canadians aren't too gungho for Israel or Iran... whats the point of going to war for either of them? Cite? Did the “majority of Canadians” even care about our involvement in Libya? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 why? tell me why we should be concerned about Israel? we barely do trade with them what would Canada stand to lose ? Israel is a democratic nation, that as you stated, have very little economic impact or bearing on Canada…….Iran is a theocracy, that aside from threatening Israel, and supplying weapons/training to our former enemies in Afghanistan, threatens the balance of power in the region (full of other theocracies and despots) that is vital to the world economy. Do you really want Canada to lose ALL world credability for a country that couldn't give two shits for Canada? What “creditability”? Our “loss of the recent UN seat” shows what the “world” thinks of “us”………This point you bring up is a philosophical argument……..As one matures, they realize worrying about what others think of you doesn’t mater…… Quote
g_bambino Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Canada is de jure at war with Iran... Uh, what? Quote
GostHacked Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 We apparently just got done with Libya .. and now we want to get into Iran??? Yup all these people in power have gone insane and want to destroy the world. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Israel is a democratic nation, that as you stated, have very little economic impact or bearing on Canada…….Iran is a theocracy, that aside from threatening Israel, and supplying weapons/training to our former enemies in Afghanistan, threatens the balance of power in the region (full of other theocracies and despots) that is vital to the world economy. What “creditability”? Our “loss of the recent UN seat” shows what the “world” thinks of “us”………This point you bring up is a philosophical argument……..As one matures, they realize worrying about what others think of you doesn’t mater…… oh spare me the drama, Afghanistans President has recently said he would side with Pakistan should the U.S go to war with Pakistan and you talk to me about the balance of power being threatened NEWSFLASH AFGHANISTAN IS NOT OUR FRIEND NEITHER ARE IRAN OR ISRAEL and you should care what the world thinks...considering most of the world hates Israel and I can't blame them and now we're gonna probably send our troops in harms way cause our Pm has a hard on for Israel Funny how you make the comparison about iran and israels government...that is what they did for the soviets...oh the big bad communists they have a different government lets kill them Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) Cite? Did the “majority of Canadians” even care about our involvement in Libya? they didn't want to get involved in a civil war...but as you know the citizens never get a say in anything really we gave the conservatives a majority so therefore any debate or vote is useless I hope we riot if the Harper government brings us into this quagmire Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Tilter Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Where has it been stated we will support them militarily? Are we currently a “friend” of Iran? How? I suppose you’re right…….If we were to get involved, it would surely cost them the next election, just as the wars in Afghanistan and the military action in Libya did…. If Iran is allowed to fully develop the bomb & a way to deliver it it will have far worse consequences than an election loss. They have made public, frequently, the desire to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth. The last time we heard this in a serious way was from Hitler and he made a valiant effort to fulfil his irrational desire, costing 6 million (about the same population size as the population of the Province of Quebec) Jews. Do you really think the loony who runs Iran (not ammijimmydoodledad) but the Ayatollah who actually runs the country will back down once the project is finished but for the launching? I predict an pre-emptive Israeli strike within 2 weeks and from that time forward there will be 2 sides to this conflict. I want to be on the same side as the Americans & Israelis, #1 because it's, in my mind right and also because ---- we are already in open conflict with the crazies & despots who run the Arab world. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 he didn't say that Tilter, that was western propaganda http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/did-ahmadinejad-really-say-israel-should-be-wiped-off-the-map/2011/10/04/gIQABJIKML_blog.html Then, specialists such as Juan Cole of the University of Michigan and Arash Norouzi of the Mossadegh Project pointed out that the original statement in Persian did not say that Israel should be wiped from the map, but instead that it would collapse. Cole said this week that in the 1980s Khomeini gave a speech in which he said in Persian “Een rezhim-i eshghalgar-i Quds bayad az sahneh-i ruzgar mahv shaved.” This means, “This occupation regime over Jerusalem must vanish from the arena of time.” But then anonymous wire service translators rendered Khomeini as saying that Israel “must be wiped off the face of the map,” which Cole and Nourouzi say is inaccurate. Ahmadinejad slightly misquoted Khomeini, substituting “safheh-i ruzgar,” or “page of time" for "sahneh-i ruzgar" or “arena of time.” But in any case, the old translation was dug up and used again by the Iranian news agency, Cole says. In fact, that’s how it was presented for years on Ahmadinejad’s English-language Web site, as the Times noted in a somewhat defensive article on the translation debate. But the story doesn’t end there. Karim Sadjadpour, an Iranian specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, notes that Iranian government entities began to erect billboards and signs with the “wipe off” phrase in English. Joshua Teitelbaum of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs compiled an interesting collection of photographs of these banners, such as one on the building that houses reserve military forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. “Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world,” the sign reads in English. Teitelbaum’s report, while written from a pro-Israel perspective, includes a number of threatening statements about Israel that are similar in tone to Ahmadinejad’s controversial statement. Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) This is why Israel and U.S do not want Iran to get nukes..they will have a tougher time influencing the middle east it has nothing at all to do with israel being threatened by nukes you're all buying into the propaganda Edited November 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 oh spare me the drama, Afghanistans President has recently said he would side with Pakistan should the U.S go to war with Pakistan and you talk to me about the balance of power being threatened NEWSFLASH AFGHANISTAN IS NOT OUR FRIEND NEITHER ARE IRAN OR ISRAEL Drama? You’re the one SHOUTING……..And Israel is our “friend” and you should care what the world thinks...considering most of the world hates Israel and I can't blame themand now we're gonna probably send our troops in harms way cause our Pm has a hard on for Israel Who cares what the world “thinks about us”? Narcissism is a form of mental illness…..As the old adage goes, “nations don’t have friends but interests” Funny how you make the comparison about iran and israels government...that is what they did for the soviets...oh the big bad communiststhey have a different government lets kill them Can and could the people of Iran and the Soviet Union “protest” their government’s openly? Can the people of Canada and Israel? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Drama? You’re the one SHOUTING……..And Israel is our “friend” Who cares what the world “thinks about us”? Narcissism is a form of mental illness…..As the old adage goes, “nations don’t have friends but interests” Can and could the people of Iran and the Soviet Union “protest” their government’s openly? Can the people of Canada and Israel? ugh you just said Israel is our friend and then quoted the old adage "nations don;t have friends but interests" so let me ask you, which do you believe? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 they didn't want to get involved in a civil war...but as you know the citizens never get a say in anything really we gave the conservatives a majority so therefore any debate or vote is useless I hope we riot if the Harper government brings us into this quagmire Our initial involvement in Libya was supported by the NDP and the Liberals.......Our involvement preceded the last federal election You making up more "facts"? Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Our initial involvement in Libya was supported by the NDP and the Liberals.......Our involvement preceded the last federal election You making up more "facts"? so if the NDP and libs oppose a war against iran and its just the cons that vote for that war what then? should we fight it anyway? if the majority of the country isn't for the war and the cons push it through anyway what then? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 ugh you just said Israel is our friend and then quoted the old adage "nations don;t have friends but interests" so let me ask you, which do you believe? Said adage.....notice my use of quotation marks when referring to Israel….Israel, like the rest of the Anglosphere and select other European and Asian countries share in our common interests…… Quote
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Report Posted November 13, 2011 Said adage.....notice my use of quotation marks when referring to Israel….Israel, like the rest of the Anglosphere and select other European and Asian countries share in our common interests…… you quoted the adage to make your point but all it did was contradict with what you said before we have no interests in israel...majority of canadians are against any new war in the middle east I find it funny that israels most ardent supporters aren't going to be the ones putting their lives on the line like you do you promise to enlist should Harper drag Canada into a war with Iran and other countries? Quote
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