Mayor Ford calls 911 on CBC comedians

[Boges]

I'm starting to think that perhaps Children's Aid should be asked to investigate Ford's actions.

I triple dog dare you to make that call.

And don't be a pussy and do it anonymously

[Rick]

Imagine that, a right winger trying to shape the discussion away from the real story into another ad nauseum attack on the CBC.

[BubberMiley]

I want the discussion to be about why the CBC thought it was a good idea to go to his house in the first place and why they aired a story about a 911 call that can't be confirmed by any alternative sources. In fact the alternative is true. Most sources including the city's chief refute the CBC's claim.

Actually, it wasn't "the CBC" that decided to go to his house. It was Mary Walsh who does a show that is sold to the CBC. She went to his house because she thought it would be funny to ambush him. While I agree that politicians' homes should be off limits, it was kind of funny.

As to the story, CBC News had multiple sources confirming the events. I don't know what you mean by "alternative" sources, but if Ford is telling the truth, I can't see why he doesn't make the tapes public. The CBC sources may very well be lying as well. If so, Ford should make the tapes public so he can rub their noses in it.

I think "the Right" would love nothing more.

[Boges]

Imagine that, a right winger trying to shape the discussion away from the real story into another ad nauseum attack on the CBC.

That's hilarious. So the story is only what you want it to be! It's only about Ford not playing along and only about him calling 911. Everything else is distracting from the main issue.

The CBC didn't insert itself into this media story at all. They are an innocent party in this event.

[Rick]

I triple dog dare you to make that call.

And don't be a pussy and do it anonymously

I don't need to make the call.

I'm sure the authorities themselves are already paying close attention to Ford's vulgar behaviour around his daughter as it relates to possible child abuse.

[Boges]

You guys are debating Tuesday's story.

Most MSM sources are talking about the report of Ford's 911 call and Bill Blair's comments regarding it.

So to accuse people that want to talk about that, as wanting to change the topic because they are losing this debate is freakin' hilarious.

As of 2pm EST on Saturday, October 29 these are the top stories regarding this issue.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/police-chief-comes-to-aid-of-ford-over-911-call-controversy/article2217981/

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1077989--ford-didn-t-use-b-word-in-911-call-police-chief-says?bn=1

http://www.newstalk1010.com/News/localnews/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10307383

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111028/ford-did-not-say-bitches-says-blair-111028/20111028/?hub=TorontoNewHome

Not a word of Ford being a sissy for calling 911 because of a woman coming to his door.

In fact the only mention of that was an editorial cartoon from the Star where he yell "Call 911!" at a Trick or Treater.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Boges

[Boges]

I don't need to make the call.

I'm sure the authorities themselves are already paying close attention to Ford's vulgar behaviour around his daughter as it relates to possible child abuse.

Evidence?

[Guest American Woman]

Police chief backs Mayor Ford on 911 call after '22 minutes' fiasco

It doesn't matter what Ford's politics are or how funny some find the situation; "22 Minutes" had no right to be on his property, and if he felt as if he and/or his child were threatened, he had every right to react the way he did. The police cheif says as much himself - and states that claims made by CBC about the 9-11 call are false.

[capricorn]

I'm starting to think that perhaps Children's Aid should be asked to investigate Ford's actions.

I think the moderators should take note of your slanderous status update.

[Rick]

Evidence?

One of your own claimed to have had sources saying his daughter could be heard screaming in the background while Ford was on the phone swearing and in a rage with 911 dispatchers. It's not difficult to see the scenario which might have caused that given Ford's history of being verbally abusive to others.

Not to mention his lying to cover his indiscretions.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2006/05/03/tor-ford060503.html

Shall we talk about his drug use....or his being charged with assault twice.

[Boges]

One of your own claimed to have had sources saying his daughter could be heard screaming in the background while Ford was on the phone swearing and in a rage with 911 dispatchers. It's not difficult to see the scenario which might have caused that given Ford's history of being verbally abusive to others.

Not to mention his lying to cover his indiscretions.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2006/05/03/tor-ford060503.html

Shall we talk about his drug use....or his being charged with assault twice.

WAIT! I thought there is no video evidence of Ford's daughter being there. Wasn't he lying about that?

So when evidence is provided to show that she was their and she was audibly in distressed by the situation, you don't concede that Ford was telling the truth, but you accuse him of child abuse.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Boges

[Boges]

BTW regarding earlier discussions about 911 operators and my inability to find enough sources to prove that the CBC's earlier reports said that they talked to their union in response to their interaction with Ford: Christie Blatchford makes mention of it in her column today.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/10/28/christie-blatchford-rob-ford-and-the-cbcs-condescending-inside-baseball/

As for the purportedly upset dispatchers – CBC’s The National, flogging the already really dead horse, reported Thursday night that the dispatchers were so concerned they had a meeting with their union – my advice would be to grow a thicker skin.

If you sign up for a job where people by definition will call you in various states of panic, despair and fear – often where there has been injury, death or illness – you had better be able to handle the occasional curse word without feeling disrespected.

[Wild Bill]

WAIT! I thought there is no video evidence of Ford's daughter being there. Wasn't he lying about that?

So when evidence is provided to show that she was their and she was audibly in distressed by the situation, you don't concede that Ford was telling the truth, but you accuse him of child abuse.

Please tell me this is a troll job.

Boges, don't you get it? Guys like him think Ford is BAD! It doesn't matter about evidence, reason or proof.

They don't like Ford! They make him a straw man for everything they hate about the right, or even everything that's not Left!

You're arguing with fanatics. Don't waste your time! Even if Ford is guilty he hasn't a chance of a fair trial with this bunch! When you think with situational ethics the fact that Ford is their enemy is enough to let the death penalty apply, because he's a rightwinger! Meanwhile, they wouldn't have ever even conceived of executing Clifford Olson, because a convict is a treasured symbol for the Left.

Life is so much more clear for such ilk. They don't have to strain their brains about right and wrong. It's all about who they like and who they don't like.

Edited October 29, 2011 by Wild Bill

[Boges]

Boges, don't you get it? Guys like him think Ford is BAD! It doesn't matter about evidence, reason or proof.

They don't like Ford! They make him a straw man for everything they hate about the right, or even everything that's not Left!

You're arguing with fanatics. Don't waste your time! Even if Ford is guilty he hasn't a chance of a fair trial with this bunch! When you think with situational ethics the fact that Ford is their enemy is enough to let the death penalty apply, because he's a rightwinger! Meanwhile, they wouldn't have ever even conceived of executing Clifford Olson, because a convict is a treasured symbol for the Left.

Life is so much more clear for such ilk. They don't have to strain their brains about right and wrong. It's all about who they like and who they don't like.

I would prefer not to make this about Right v Left and generalizations to that effect. It just starts flame wars and distracts from the concrete issues at hand.

[BubberMiley]

Police chief backs Mayor Ford on 911 call after '22 minutes' fiasco

It doesn't matter what Ford's politics are or how funny some find the situation; "22 Minutes" had no right to be on his property, and if he felt as if he and/or his child were threatened, he had every right to react the way he did.

Actually, in Canada it is not illegal to approach someone in their driveway.

If he felt threatened, that would be weird, since it was just Mary Walsh and he was laughing at her.

[Guest American Woman]

Actually, in Canada it is not illegal to approach someone in their driveway.

If he felt threatened, that would be weird, since it was just Mary Walsh and he was laughing at her.

He asked three times if he could get in his car, and obviously attempted to do so, as she kept pushing herself at him. That's a bit more than "approaching." Furthermore, it's not for you to decide how he felt or whether or not he was justified in calling the police. The police chief pretty much confirms that.

[BubberMiley]

He asked three times if he could get in his car, and obviously attempted to do so, as she kept pushing herself at him. That's a bit more than "approaching." Furthermore, it's not for you to decide how he felt or whether or not he was justified in calling the police. The police chief pretty much confirms that.

And then after having his hissy fit he left. Furthermore, it's not for you to decide that I can't have an opinion on whether or not he was justified in calling the police.

And until we hear the tapes, the police chief is just another guy who works under Rob Ford.

[Wild Bill]

I would prefer not to make this about Right v Left and generalizations to that effect. It just starts flame wars and distracts from the concrete issues at hand.

Seems to me that almost all of the attacks of Ford in this thread are ad hominem distractions " from the concrete issues at hand"!

[msj]

You want the subject to be about his poor judgement in calling 911 when it seems he didn't really need to. It's beyond me why people in this thread I are still debating why he did call 911. Sure it was a spaz move. He's not going to get charged for it and if anyone thinks this incident will follow him in 3 years they're delusional.

Given that you wrote this on page 1:

I don't think Mayor Ford was really afraid, I just think he wanted to stick it these people that think it's cool to go to people's house and make fun of them.

I do think calling 911 is an issue.

If, as even you think, he called out of spite, then is that a good use of 911 resources?

If, as even you think, he was not afraid, then why did he call 911?

I want the discussion to be about why the CBC thought it was a good idea to go to his house in the first place and why they aired a story about a 911 call that can't be confirmed by any alternative sources. In fact the alternative is true. Most sources including the city's chief refute the CBC's claim.

It wasn't the CBC.

It was This Hour has 22 Minutes which happens to be aired on CBC.

As for what was in the calls - until Ford releases them we won't know one way or the other.

[msj]

BTW regarding earlier discussions about 911 operators and my inability to find enough sources to prove that the CBC's earlier reports said that they talked to their union in response to their interaction with Ford: Christie Blatchford makes mention of it in her column today.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/10/28/christie-blatchford-rob-ford-and-the-cbcs-condescending-inside-baseball/

Boges, it is comments like this that made me ask for a direct cite in the first place.

No, Christie Blatchford does not support the context that you were claiming the original quote in the first place.

Filing a grievance and talking to the union are two different things.

Furthermore, for all we know, some of them met together and did have a meeting.

[Shady]

Then why are you still making vulgar comments?

WWWTT

Did I hurt your feelings? I apologize. You must be who reported me to the forum authorities huh? Gimme a break. All of you. Gotta love it when a thread full of name callers complains about you to the moderators. What's wrong? Can't take your own medicine?

Ok, I'll leave you guys alone to your thread equivalent of a playboy magazine.

[Shakeyhands]

Ok, I'll leave you guys alone to your thread equivalent of a playboy magazine.

Fantastic, See you over at the circle forming in the OWS Borg thread....

[Shady]

Fantastic, See you over at the circle forming in the OWS Borg thread....

Ok, you mean the one that's 7 comments long?

[cybercoma]

This thread is another good example of how the Left usually engages an issue with anger and derogatory commentary. Just take a peek through this thread and separate the Ford-haters from the rest. On one side (the Left) is anger and vitriole. On the other is an absence of the same. It doesn't apply to all that is Left and Right but it's an all too common trait. When the Left do not get their way, they stamp their feet and stoop to name-calling. Did I mention that the CBC leans just a teeny, weeny bit to the Left?

Gee, KIS... I don't know why people would be so angry. Could it have anything to do with the possibliity that the biggest liar in politics quite possibly berated city staff, using the hateful, misogynistic adjective "bitch"? Oh, but he says he didn't. The proof that he's telling the truth is tha this brother and the guy whose budget he writes says he didn't.

[cybercoma]

The CBC sources may very well be lying as well. If so, Ford should make the tapes public so he can rub their noses in it.

I think "the Right" would love nothing more.

The way For is, you know damn well if he could rub their noses in it he would. Since he hasn't ordered the tapes released to the media and has a track-record of being a compulsive liar, one can pretty easily connect the dots.