There Will Be A Merger - at the right time.

[Oleg Bach]

The way things are going internationally and domestically in the Unitied States Of America - Canda should take into careful consideration the idea of merging with the USA - kind of like a quiet little buisness deal. Not saying there will be a name change or a completely open boarder - Just strong and more powerful and protective ties - It looks like our two anglophone realms might have to circle the wagons pretty soon. We have no choice - as our big brother ages and falthers - time for the younger brother to step in and put a proper and protective arm around his shoulder - of course - it will be low key...Point being - If the USA goes down - we go down...no more rhetoric that is tainted in hate or spite - If we are to surive - we only have ONE - brother. Once Obama the nit wit is gone - the strong and righterous must step forward and protect the realm -the northern and the southern kingdom so to speak..a merging of nations is a must - whether we like it or not.

[MiddleClassCentrist]

Yes. The time to get on a ship is when it is sinking.

Canada can shift ties and has been shifting ties to other nations for trade. The world demands natural resources, we provide natural resources. The U.S. is convenient and we'll lose some efficiency but merger would not improve finding new markets as the U.S. tanks.

Canada would do better to maintain it's current status independently... any merger is one sided and will only help U.S. corporations exploit our resources with even less accountability than they already have.

Edited August 7, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist

[Oleg Bach]

Yes. The time to get on a ship is when it is sinking.

Canada can shift ties and has been shifting ties to other nations for trade. The world demands natural resources, we provide natural resources. The U.S. is convenient and we'll lose some efficiency but merger would not improve finding new markets as the U.S. tanks.

Canada would do better to maintain it's current status independently... any merger is one sided and will only help U.S. corporations exploit our resources with even less accountability than they already have.

Looking foward into the future - If China over whelms America - finacially - militarily and eventually culturally - we will not stand a chance on our own..They will wipe us off the map like nothing...Instead of looking forward to a possible doomsday event for both our nations - and preparing for it...You go on with classic hatred for the U.S. - it will not matter much who demands who's resourses...or who exploits who in these regards - We are witnessing the emergance of the worlds most aggressive super power..They are a huge machine - China is not like us..It's a beast..that will consume everything in it's path to power...What do you think...that once the USA tanks - that we will stand tall and be able to control the econoimic and eventual aggression of China? You are dreaming...as for the EU - forget it - they are in a state of collapse also.

[Sir Bandelot]

China is playing a very smart game. They smile and quietly go about their business. Unlike us, they do not engage in useless wars that waste money and resources. They shore up their strength and let their opponents expend energy. Much as with the taoist yin-yang philosophy, they let their opponent use its own strength against itself. Using the momentum of the aggressor, it requires almost no effort to topple a mighty giant. China will take over the world without a single shot being fired.

[Guest American Woman]

China will take over the world without a single shot being fired.

Because we all know that no shots have been fired within China ..........

[bush_cheney2004]

China is playing a very smart game. They smile and quietly go about their business. Unlike us, they do not engage in useless wars that waste money and resources. They shore up their strength and let their opponents expend energy. Much as with the taoist yin-yang philosophy, they let their opponent use its own strength against itself.

Yea...that worked really well in the 1930's....just let Japan punch itself out.

[bush_cheney2004]

Canada can shift ties and has been shifting ties to other nations for trade. The world demands natural resources, we provide natural resources. The U.S. is convenient and we'll lose some efficiency but merger would not improve finding new markets as the U.S. tanks.

Canada has always been a shifty lot...wavering between UK/Europe and the Americans. It has never been "independent" or self determining. This would just be another chapter in same old story.

Canada would do better to maintain it's current status independently... any merger is one sided and will only help U.S. corporations exploit our resources with even less accountability than they already have.

But it is OK to continue to exploit foreign capital and markets, things that made those resources available at all.

[Sir Bandelot]

Yea...that worked really well in the 1930's....just let Japan punch itself out.

That was a different time, different leadership and situation. Well before Deng Xiaoping.

[Sir Bandelot]

Because we all know that no shots have been fired within China ..........

I did purposely oversimplify the situation. Obviously they're a military threat as well.

I was only saying it that way to illustrate another type of warfare.

[bush_cheney2004]

That was a different time, different leadership and situation. Well before Deng Xiaoping.

China is over 5,000 years old...Japan's invasion is considered recent history in comparison, at many levels.

[Oleg Bach]

China is over 5,000 years old...Japan's invasion is considered recent history in comparison, at many levels.

Exactly the point - this tread is about the China effect...and how we will surive it. If and I say if China takes the place of our great American super power brother - There will not be an American style power projection into the rest of the world but a power oppression. China is not like us and don't fool yourself that they are a civilzed nation - they are a nation of racists - Anyone or any nation that does not look like them will be stomped on..with curelty on a scale that the world has never seen - China is like an ugly and bitter dominating father that beats his own kids...so it will not be hard to imagine what father China will do to kids that are not his...This is very very serious - Canada must embrace the fact that America and Canada must head towards a type of firm co-operation and mutal protectionism....This threat called China - will make the former Soviet Union and the cold war look like a friendly chat in the park.

[bush_cheney2004]

Exactly the point - this tread is about the China effect...and how we will surive it. If and I say if China takes the place of our great American super power brother - There will not be an American style power projection into the rest of the world but a power oppression.....

China can't even repatriate Taiwan at this point, or project military power out of the region. I will die without any Chinese worries except for tainted pet food.

[Oleg Bach]

China can't even repatriate Taiwan at this point, or project military power out of the region. I will die without any Chinese worries except for tainted pet food.

All their food is tainted - their standards for clean water do not exist - I see recent immigrants fishing in what is almost a sewer - by their standards that is clean and exceptable. Yes they can not repatriate Taiwan - but they could with sheer force if they wanted too..but they don't because America would stop them - BUT they think long term and are very patient - they will continue to sytemically under mine America and play if for a sucker untill it weakens - once America is weak enough they will make their move - It is just a matter of time.

I agree - both of will be gone by the time China has your grandkids in a work camp.........but what the heck - they already own a huge western slave base that is indentured - it's called America and American debt to them - unless we stiff them for the money they will incrimentally own your ass - then we are next.

[Oleg Bach]

Some Canadians have this attitude that if America disappeared off the map the great Satan would be gone and all would be well - and we could embrace a new utopia with China shareing a pillow at night - One great Satan gone - will be replace by an even greater evil - one that will not show us mercy....America no matter how bad we believe she might be is at least capable of kindness - China is not.... To think that merging with America will not offer us a stronger postion in a changing world is a mistake - Idiots like our Quebec seperatists believe that being a seperate independant nation in a negatively changing world will be a delight--------Imagine Quebec having to take on China - and insist on language laws to suit their ego driven tradtions - China would laugh in your face...It is time that we in North America truely unite - other than Mexico - untill they get their house in order which is NOT going to happen soon.

[Oleg Bach]

Anglos run America and Canada - if we wait any longer - someone else will take over....internal displacement of the status quo is on it's way - better get tough............I like an anglo dominated North America..cos the options are chaos - It's like this - either protect and hold firm the mafia we have - or have 20 sets of Mafias at each others throats - We must hold power...just giving the banksters a heads up - and this buisness about pandering to gays at the T D bank ---just ruins the fabric of the society.

[bush_cheney2004]

I agree - both of will be gone by the time China has your grandkids in a work camp.........but what the heck - they already own a huge western slave base that is indentured - it's called America and American debt to them - unless we stiff them for the money they will incrimentally own your ass - then we are next.

That's what Japan thought back in the 80's too....they lost their shirts on banks and commercial real estate. The Americans didn't get where they are because they are stupid. The Chinese graduate students still go to...America.

[Wild Bill]

Yes. The time to get on a ship is when it is sinking.

Canada can shift ties and has been shifting ties to other nations for trade. The world demands natural resources, we provide natural resources. The U.S. is convenient and we'll lose some efficiency but merger would not improve finding new markets as the U.S. tanks.

Canada would do better to maintain it's current status independently... any merger is one sided and will only help U.S. corporations exploit our resources with even less accountability than they already have.

Have you no sense of practicality? The USA will ALWAYS be our major trading partner, unless somebody comes up with a way to ship goods for free!

We have OCEANS on either side of us, or hadn't you noticed? It costs MONEY to fly or ship by boat any goods for trade! Shipping is NOT cheap!

Or do you believe that there is so much profit margin in most trade goods to easily absorb shipping costs, just because folks like YOU don't like America?

If you ran a business it would go broke before it opened its doors!

[CitizenX]

Wild Bill you might be a sociopath. Get that checked out please.

[Wild Bill]

Wild Bill you might be a sociopath. Get that checked out please.

Check out yourself! What's the term for someone who believes he's right about everything, with no valid attempt to have any proof? What do you call someone who uses insults for rebuttal?

Perhaps you should scurry over to "rubble.com" where you can unhook your brain and just unleash copious amounts of profanity. I have a hunch it's what you use to feel better.

[CitizenX]

Check out yourself! What's the term for someone who believes he's right about everything, with no valid attempt to have any proof? What do you call someone who uses insults for rebuttal?

Perhaps you should scurry over to "rubble.com" where you can unhook your brain and just unleash copious amounts of profanity. I have a hunch it's what you use to feel better.

What do you call someone that just can't understand basic logic...ohh yaa mentally challenged.

[Oleg Bach]

Wild Bill you might be a sociopath. Get that checked out please.

The world is run by sociopaths. They are considered the norm. It is quite odd though that society is controlled by those who are anti-social.

[Oleg Bach]

What do you call someone that just can't understand basic logic...ohh yaa mentally challenged.

Touch a hot coal - get burned. Be governed by hate and spite - you suffer an early death and a case of a nasty auto-cannibalistic cancer...be unkind to a hungry man you might find out one day that logic dictates that when YOU are hungry the hungry man might just have food that day - that the once hungry man who is dictated to by logic - will refrain from feeding you - because it would be a bad deal - as logic dictates - we are not creatures of true logic - we are governed by sensation - stimuli...Like a school of fish that react and move when a beam of light strikes the water - or a rock is tossed into the pond...I guess that would make most of humanity mentally challenged - like a stupid dog that does not get it that it is better to crap out side then on it's own bed...Most dogs figure this out - most people do not.

[Sir Bandelot]

Like a school of fish that react and move when a beam of light strikes the water - or a rock is tossed into the pond...I guess that would make most of humanity mentally challenged - like a stupid dog that does not get it that it is better to crap out side then on it's own bed...Most dogs figure this out - most people do not.

Thats... sociopathy

[Oleg Bach]

Thats... sociopathy

You think? So sociopathy can inflict a collective also?

[Guest American Woman]

Have you no sense of practicality? The USA will ALWAYS be our major trading partner, unless somebody comes up with a way to ship goods for free!

We have OCEANS on either side of us, or hadn't you noticed? It costs MONEY to fly or ship by boat any goods for trade! Shipping is NOT cheap!

Or do you believe that there is so much profit margin in most trade goods to easily absorb shipping costs, just because folks like YOU don't like America?

If you ran a business it would go broke before it opened its doors!

You got that right. And what's just as amazing is that these folks who don't like America are chomping at the bit to do trade with China. Go figure.