CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 I think that it's possible that the social media site YouTube could go down in history as one of the great Social justice tools. Thoughts? Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Well for one Police have abused their power since forever, but it was always your word against his. Without YouTube these dirty cops got away with murder. Some examples Robert Dziekański murder G20 rights violations Countless acts of assault, one example here in Kelowna. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbdareHU4Ik&feature=relmfu One from Victoria Edited August 6, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
lukin Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Social justice = code phrase for the benefit of those who don't want to work but want to cause trouble. What a useless thread. Edited August 6, 2011 by lukin Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 Social justice = code phrase for the benefit of those who don't want to work but want to cause trouble. What a useless thread. Glenn Beck fan? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) I think that it's possible that the social media site YouTube could go down in history as one of the great Social justice tools. Thoughts? Thoughts? Sure...you can thank America for YouTube too! Edited August 6, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 The scumbag cop in the Kelowna incident was also charged with beating up someone in a separate incident. And he's under investigation for beating up someone else in another earlier incident. The fact is: the RCMP wouldn't have done anything about the guy if it wasn't for the video. Getting the guy caught on video, red-handed, and putting it on YouTube for the world to see is the only thing that made a difference. If it wasn't for that video and the ability of the internet to spread it to a wide audience, that piece of crap would still be out on the street kicking people in the face. (now he's sitting at home collecting an RCMP paycheque for doing nothing, instead. yay!) -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Bonam Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 The scumbag cop in the Kelowna incident was also charged with beating up someone in a separate incident. And he's under investigation for beating up someone else in another earlier incident. The fact is: the RCMP wouldn't have done anything about the guy if it wasn't for the video. Getting the guy caught on video, red-handed, and putting it on YouTube for the world to see is the only thing that made a difference. If it wasn't for that video and the ability of the internet to spread it to a wide audience, that piece of crap would still be out on the street kicking people in the face. (now he's sitting at home collecting an RCMP paycheque for doing nothing, instead. yay!) -k That's normal justice, not "social justice". Quote
Jack Weber Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 That's normal justice, not "social justice". Cops beating people up is "normal justice"? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 Cops beating people up is "normal justice"? No, I was referring to this sentence: Getting the guy caught on video, red-handed, and putting it on YouTube for the world to see is the only thing that made a difference. Should have been obvious from the context. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 Since DoP is not here to do it....allow me to play a MLW favorite: Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 haha, funny stuff, didn't see that before Quote
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 That's normal justice, not "social justice". Social justice is about equality and fairness between human beings. Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
lukin Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Glenn Beck fan? No, I'm a Roseanne Barr fan. Just tired of all the social justice crusaders who want everyone to be equal. I guess it's trendy to say "social justice." Life never has and never will be equal. Edited August 6, 2011 by lukin Quote
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) No, I'm a Roseanne Barr fan. Just tired of all the social justice crusaders who want everyone to be equal. I guess it's trendy to say "social justice." Life never has and never will be equal. How about equality under the law? All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others - George Orwell Edited August 6, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 Since DoP is not here to do it....allow me to play a MLW favorite: My response Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Wilber Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 Well for one Police have abused their power since forever, but it was always your word against his. Without YouTube these dirty cops got away with murder. Some examples Robert Dziekański murder G20 rights violations Countless acts of assault, one example here in Kelowna. You forgot the Stanley Cup rioters. Or did you? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) You forgot the Stanley Cup rioters. Or did you? I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with any civil rights violations or social injustice in this incident. Please give me some examples. I thought it was a riot that involved a bunch of jack ass criminals. Edited August 6, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Wilber Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with any civil rights violations or social injustice in this incident. Please give me some examples. I thought it was a riot that involved a bunch of jack ass criminals. You don't think beating someone up, destroying and stealing their property is a violation of someones rights? Is the state the only entity that can violate a persons rights? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) You don't think beating someone up, destroying and stealing their property is a violation of someones rights? Is the state the only entity that can violate a persons rights? Of course all of these things are violation of rights, thanks for pointing this out...my bad . A temporary state of poo poo brain. And yes YouTube was used as a tool for justice, even if it was used in vigilante justice. Edited August 6, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Oleg Bach Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 MY 21 year old bring up a few of these videos and I pop in to have a quick look....I keep a pretty good eye on main stream media...But as my son put it "Dad the news does not show what is really happening when it comes to bad things...it is worse than we imagine" - well - Private reporting by ameteurs might open up the eyes of the world - and maybe things will improve - or we might just get more jaded.. Quote
Wilber Posted August 6, 2011 Report Posted August 6, 2011 Of course all of these things are violation of rights, thanks for pointing this out...my bad . A temporary state of poo poo brain. And yes YouTube was used as a tool for justice, even if it was used in vigilante justice. Maybe because the public has little confidence in the state to hold these people accountable. Is it only vigilante justice if the state is not the recipient of that "justice". I fail to see the difference. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
CitizenX Posted August 6, 2011 Author Report Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) Maybe because the public has little confidence in the state to hold these people accountable. Is it only vigilante justice if the state is not the recipient enforcers of that "justice". I fail to see the difference. Vigilante justice is when citizens take the law into their own hands. Mostly because they have no confidence in the law or the legal system, which I don't agree with. What I do appreciate is putting up these video's and pictures in the public domain in order to embarrass these people and and inflict public ridicule, not to mention help the police to convict. Edited August 6, 2011 by CitizenX Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Wilber Posted August 7, 2011 Report Posted August 7, 2011 Vigilante justice is when citizens take the law into their own hands. Mostly because they have no confidence in the law or the legal system, which I don't agree with. What I do appreciate is putting up these video's and pictures in the public domain in order to embarrass these people and and inflict public ridicule, not to mention help the police to convict. Please don't edit my posts. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
CitizenX Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Posted August 7, 2011 Please don't edit my posts. Sorry Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
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