M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Based on my experience with cold beer and whine stores out here they will mark it up as much or more. At the very least it will be real close. Indeed. The mark up that the LCBO charges is fairly normal for retail operations. The bay buys something from a distributor, and marks it up 100%-200% or more.....that is how stores stay in business. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 Indeed. The mark up that the LCBO charges is fairly normal for retail operations. The bay buys something from a distributor, and marks it up 100%-200% or more.....that is how stores stay in business. I think the only people that shop at the Bay are buying stuff for Wedding registries. The Bay is horribly overpriced. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I think the only people that shop at the Bay are buying stuff for Wedding registries. The Bay is horribly overpriced. What ever....the mark ups are the same ...walmart or even the stores in Milton Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 What ever....the mark ups are the same ...walmart or even the stores in Milton There isn't a Bay in Milton, just a Zellers, which will soon be a Target. Home Outfitters is a good store for small appliances and housewares. It's owned by HBC but it's prices are a bit more reasonable. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 There isn't a Bay in Milton, just a Zellers, which will soon be a Target. Home Outfitters is a good store for small appliances and housewares. It's owned by HBC but it's prices are a bit more reasonable. And appliances can have a 300-%500 mark up. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 And appliances can have a 300-%500 mark up. Luckily they should last for over a decade. Maybe we should be raging at the price of anything in Canada. Which is why people go across one of the bridges over the Niagara river to shop for stuff in the US. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Luckily they should last for over a decade. Maybe we should be raging at the price of anything in Canada. Which is why people go across one of the bridges over the Niagara river to shop for stuff in the US. and again, which has nothing to do with the retail mark up... It's one thing to Tilt at Windmills...at least tilt at the right windmill Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Wild Bill Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Am I the only one suspicious of how this became an issue so close to the next provincial election? Why now? I think that Dalton is so desperate that he's sending up trial balloons all over the place, looking for things that might bring him some votes. I don't know if a Liberal gov't in Queens Park would actually change the laws to allow beer in variety stores but I could see them making a lot of implications during a campaign, without definitely making the promise, so that they could not later be held to it. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 Am I the only one suspicious of how this became an issue so close to the next provincial election? Why now? I think that Dalton is so desperate that he's sending up trial balloons all over the place, looking for things that might bring him some votes. I don't know if a Liberal gov't in Queens Park would actually change the laws to allow beer in variety stores but I could see them making a lot of implications during a campaign, without definitely making the promise, so that they could not later be held to it. Well I know Dalton changed Liquor laws so when you go to events like Ribfests, you don't have to stay in a crowded beer tent like a child, you can actually walk around. Amongst other things. The bitching about the price is my own doing, I think we pay way to much for booes, but I guess M Dancer is right, it's more about the ridiculous taxes charged. I think we'll disagree on the fact that the province does set minimum prices for alcohol. So if other people were allowed sell booes like your local Mac's Milk, the price might drop. The issue is the government has made selling tobacco so taboo, you're average corner store is really struggling and maybe allowing them to sell beer would help them out. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Am I the only one suspicious of how this became an issue so close to the next provincial election? Why now? Well, Brewers retail has been annoying the independant breweries for quite a while... http://www.thestar.com/business/companies/article/1030395--small-brewers-bitter-with-beer-store The Beer Store is owned by Molson Coors (49 per cent), Labatt (49 per cent) and Sleeman (2 per cent). Labatt is a subsidiary of Anheuser-Busch/InBev, while Sleeman is owned by Japan’s Sapporo brewery. This isn't new news...the struggle for the other brewers is to get good display space (when Moslon and Labatt's own the place, the first item you see are.... ...and to get the fees to be reasonable. Can you imagine Harry Rosen charging Hugo Boss to sell their suits? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I think we'll disagree on the fact that the province does set minimum prices for alcohol. So if other people were allowed sell booes like your local Mac's Milk, the price might drop. It won't drop below the legal minimum Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 It won't drop below the legal minimum Well perhaps if it WAS changed. IM Future Premier Hudak. Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Well perhaps if it WAS changed. IM Future Premier Hudak. Won't be. Not be a conservative or a liberal. The legal minimum is there as a measure to prevent binge drinking. And there are no political points to be made on that issue http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/557097 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Boges Posted July 29, 2011 Author Report Posted July 29, 2011 Won't be. Not be a conservative or a liberal. The legal minimum is there as a measure to prevent binge drinking. And there are no political points to be made on that issue http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/557097 Actually Tim Hudak has said that he would look at going back to buck-a-beer if he was elected. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/02/08/hudak-buck-beer.html It's beyond me how an extra few cents a beer would prevent binge drinking. If I wanted to get drunk fast, beer would not be my first choice. Quote
guyser Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Can you imagine Harry Rosen charging Hugo Boss to sell their suits? Sure can. Not sure it happens there, but plenty of business' do exactly that. Wal Mart, Loblaws. Metro , Shoppers Drug ad nauseum. Edited July 29, 2011 by guyser Quote
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Sure can. Not sure it happens there, but plenty of business' do exactly that. Wal Mart, Loblaws. Metro , Shoppers Drug ad nauseum. I find it hard to believe they CHARGE the suppliers...I know a women who wold to walmart...they made her do the Bob and Neil routine....but not charge Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 Actually Tim Hudak has said that he would look at going back to buck-a-beer if he was elected. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/02/08/hudak-buck-beer.html It's beyond me how an extra few cents a beer would prevent binge drinking. If I wanted to get drunk fast, beer would not be my first choice. Ummmmm..... Hudak would not commit to making cheaper beer part of the Tories' platform in the provincial election set for Oct. 6. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted July 29, 2011 Report Posted July 29, 2011 I find it hard to believe they CHARGE the suppliers...I know a women who wold to walmart...they made her do the Bob and Neil routine....but not charge Loblaws wants money to put products on the shelves. One of the reasons it is so hard to break into the big stores. They dont get it from everyone apparently (Loblaws Exec quoted) since consumers demand the latest hottest stuff. Wal Mart is more of a dictator in that they tell you they will pay X and no more, Shoppers et al all do it. The grocery stores started the idea since the margin was so small . Quote
eyeball Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 The difference between smokes and booze is booze can affect other people instantly the drivers get behind the wheel and drives, smoking takes longer. Until the stupid smoker drops a red-hot in their lap and loses control in their panicked frenzy to put it out. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Iam against this idea also,as I can see the selling of booze to underage kids if one place to sell it is the variety store.Just like it is with the selling cigarettes. More breakins to get the booze and I don't want to see it in the grocery stores, they are busy enough when you just want to get out there. I'm a little sick of seeing the same government that busts people for unwinding with a toke at the end of the day selling you what it rather have you use to unwind with. I'd rather see my friendly neighbourhood Hell's Angel Chapter given responsibility for selling booze to tell you the truth. It would probably be better quality than the crap the state sells. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jack Weber Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 And there it is.... I was wondering when the dope heads would chime in... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
dre Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) And there it is.... I was wondering when the dope heads would chime in... Its not just dopeheads that are sick of criminalizing weed. Its a majority of the population. Even if you think weed is a total blight on society the policy is an objective failure and collosal waste of money and time. I havent touched the stuff since my 20's and Im pissed that the government is sponsoring crime by funding organized criminals through prohibition. Edited July 30, 2011 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
eyeball Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 And there it is.... I was wondering when the dope heads would chime in... Why would you wonder that? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Jack Weber Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Why would you wonder that? I figured the subject matter offered the dope heads a "window of opportunity" to blither blather about legalization of weed... I was right... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted July 30, 2011 Report Posted July 30, 2011 Its not just dopeheads that are sick of criminalizing weed. Its a majority of the population. Even if you think weed is a total blight on society the policy is an objective failure and collosal waste of money and time. I havent touched the stuff since my 20's and Im pissed that the government is sponsoring crime by funding organized criminals through prohibition. I've never smoked the stuff...I guess I never needed to... Are we talking decriminalization or legalization??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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