NDP apologizes for embellishing CV of 'Vegas' MP

[ninjandrew]

As I said above, I have no problem with the lady, I have a problem with the NDP, and the Cons, and the Libs lying through their teeth. I still haven't caught May in a lie, but she hasn't had much chance yet.

If we're talking about Ruth Ellen Brosseau, than I have a problem with the lady.

She:

- was in Vegas during the election

- has never been to her riding

- has had some controversial (forged?) signatures on her candidacy application

- speaks poor French in a riding that is almost entirely French, and the French seem to hate that more than anything

- doesn't have a diploma when it was stated she did, I dont care about the diploma, just the principal

- and finally, the judgmental, suspicious side of me thinks that a good looking single mother working as a bartender might very much like the salary of an MP

[punked]

If we're talking about Ruth Ellen Brosseau, than I have a problem with the lady.

She:

- was in Vegas during the election

- has never been to her riding

- has had some controversial (forged?) signatures on her candidacy application

- speaks poor French in a riding that is almost entirely French, and the French seem to hate that more than anything

- doesn't have a diploma when it was stated she did, I dont care about the diploma, just the principal

- and finally, the judgmental, suspicious side of me thinks that a good looking single mother working as a bartender might very much like the salary of an MP

She was voted for by the people of her riding. That should be enough for you until she gets to parliament.

[RNG]

She was voted for by the people of her riding. That should be enough for you until she gets to parliament.

Dang, punked, I really hate agreeing with you, but this. ^^^^^

[ninjandrew]

She was voted for by the people of her riding. That should be enough for you until she gets to parliament.

But that doesnt mean I have to like her. Also, Im sure most of her supporters, if not all of them, were unaware of the issue with her candidacy app. before they voted for her. I'm not anti-NDP, but there sure seems to be some monkey business going on there.

[sp]

Edited May 11, 2011 by ninjandrew

[punked]

But that doesnt mean I have to like her. Also, Im sure most of her supporters, if not all of them, were unaware of the issue with her candidacy app. before they voted for her. I'm not anti-NDP, but there sure seems to be some monkey business going on there.

[sp]

Again she has 4 years to prove herself to no one but the people of her ridding. Here is hoping she does well but if not she will be gone in 4 years.

[betsy]

"Embellishing" is lying. NDP ran on honesty, trustworthiness - "the party whom people can trust."

And now they blame their staff. Hah! Weren't they critical of the Cons blaming aides and staffs?

I wonder if this "embellishment" is an isolated case....or are there any more?

[Evening Star]

But that doesnt mean I have to like her. Also, Im sure most of her supporters, if not all of them, were unaware of the issue with her candidacy app. before they voted for her. I'm not anti-NDP, but there sure seems to be some monkey business going on there.

[sp]

Ensight's exit poll survey found that all of her constituents to whom they spoke knew she wasn't from the riding, went to Vegas, etc and voted for her anyway.

[ninjandrew]

Ensight's exit poll survey found that all of her constituents to whom they spoke knew she wasn't from the riding, went to Vegas, etc and voted for her anyway.

Didnt most of the news about her come out after the election?

[Evening Star]

Didnt most of the news about her come out after the election?

This is from Apr 26: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-candidate-takes-mid-campaign-vacation-in-vegas/article1999879/

From Apr 29: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ndp-candidate-back-from-vegas-and-has-a-shot-at-winning-seat/article2004730/

[Evening Star]

http://www.google.ca/search?q=ruth-ellen+brosseau+vegas&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a#q=ruth-ellen+brosseau+vegas&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=e3y&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=ivnsuo&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=sbd:1,cdr:1,cd_min:2011-4-1,cd_max:2011-5-1,nws:1&source=og&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=efd11fe55c0e2073

[ninjandrew]

This is from Apr 26: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/ndp-candidate-takes-mid-campaign-vacation-in-vegas/article1999879/

From Apr 29: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ndp-candidate-back-from-vegas-and-has-a-shot-at-winning-seat/article2004730/

Well Ill be damned. Still kinda lame, but Ill scratch that off the list.

[Wild Bill]

Am I the only one who is absolutely astonished that the NDP could win so many more seats than they ever had before without even the benefit of a PR system?

We have heard it said so many times that our FPTP system bars the smaller parties from achieving a seat count proportional to their percentage of the national popular vote, yet look what has happened this last election!

As for arguments about PR systems lacking strong regional or local riding representation, we've seen that the idea is irrelevant anyway. You don't have to live in riding, speak the local language or have even visited the place even once to still win there as a federal MP!

I would think the case has been overwhelmingly proven that changes to our system are unnecessary.

[RNG]

Am I the only one who is absolutely astonished that the NDP could win so many more seats than they ever had before without even the benefit of a PR system?

We have heard it said so many times that our FPTP system bars the smaller parties from achieving a seat count proportional to their percentage of the national popular vote, yet look what has happened this last election!

As for arguments about PR systems lacking strong regional or local riding representation, we've seen that the idea is irrelevant anyway. You don't have to live in riding, speak the local language or have even visited the place even once to still win there as a federal MP!

I would think the case has been overwhelmingly proven that changes to our system are unnecessary.

Or maybe it shows that massive changes are really, really necessary? Scary stuff in some ways.

[bloodyminded]

Or maybe it shows that massive changes are really, really necessary? Scary stuff in some ways.

I dunno, maybe Wild Bill is right. All these childish night-terrors people are having about the Evil Soviets rather forgets the fact that they demolished the Bloc...something the Cons and Libs simply could never have pulled off in a thousand years.

[g_bambino]

I'm hoping the Canadian Libertarian Party will shed it's wingnuts and approach the US model.

That's counterproductive; shedding its wingnuts will take it farther away from the US model.

[noahbody]

All these childish night-terrors people are having about the Evil Soviets rather forgets the fact that they demolished the Bloc...something the Cons and Libs simply could never have pulled off in a thousand years.

The Bloc is responsible for its collapse. It forgot why people had voted for them and started talking up separation.

[noahbody]

The party says a staffer modified the online biography for Ruth Ellen Brosseau without her permission and it regrets the error.

The NDP really needs to release the staffer's name. Has he or she been fired?

[bloodyminded]

The Bloc is responsible for its collapse. It forgot why people had voted for them and started talking up separation.

Sure it is, but the NDP is not an irrelevant part of the story; we all note well they didn't vote Conservative or Liberal.

[madmax]

The NDP really needs to release the staffer's name. Has he or she been fired?

This 3 Time Conservative MP received almost no media backlash when his online Biography stated he Graduated from the University of Ottawa.....

Royal Galipeau, the Tory MP for Ottawa-Orléans, faced a similar problem during the campaign. The Ottawa Citizen reported that he had to retract a claim on his online biography that he graduated from the University of Ottawa.

Its just not as fun of a story when an Established 2 time Conservative MP has a false declaration...

Nor does he look as nice...

[August1991]

She was voted for by the people of her riding. That should be enough for you until she gets to parliament.

But she got to parliament solely on the recommendation of Jack Layton and the NDP.

That, punked, should concern you in two ways: first, it seriously harms the reputation of Jack Layton and the NDP in Quebec and elsewhere. In the next election, or indeed anytime Layton's recommends someone/something, people are going to check twice. Second, you seem to believe that society is better off with strong government regulations and lots of government enterprises. Given what has happened in the case of Brosseau, do you think that it's wise to put all this oversight power in the hands of a single institution?

We have heard it said so many times that our FPTP system bars the smaller parties from achieving a seat count proportional to their percentage of the national popular vote, yet look what has happened this last election!

WB, you make a good point.

We can fiddle with details but the ultimate measure of democracy is whether there is a peaceful way to throw the buggers out. In the past election, Quebecers for better or worse got rid of the Bloc. Compare that to what we see happening in Syria or Libya now.

Or to put it differently (and to better understand dictatorship and the Middle East), in 1970, Assad and the Baathists were in power in Syria and some 40 years later, the son is still there. Imagine if the Liberal Party were still in power in Ottawa under Justin Trudeau.

Edited May 11, 2011 by August1991