Richest people should offer job or pay bill for jobless people.

[bjre]

Look, there are duties to being a citizen; paying taxes, jury duty, and yes filling out census forms.

How many jobless people and homeless people in Canada?

Those people cost tax payers lots of money each year.

They have too much time that they can increase crime rate that make other people life in danger.

Rich people make most money by evil laws such as provide non-exist money to others and ask for interest like which bankers did.

And such as use evil laws and charge others and try to be lawyer to "help" others.

And such as use license laws to prevent others go into a professional area and charge for high prices.

And such as use laws to monopoly an industry and prevent others do the same job and maintain a high prices.

And such as use wars to robber wealth from other nations, or make money buy take advantage of low labour price of other nations.

Or use patent laws to make unfair large amount of money from the whole world

And many other evil things.

Basically, those are all evil robbery.

To make the world a little bit fair, support poor people should not only the poor middle class's work, they have suffered too much.

The richest should have some duty.

Each certain amount of too many money made by a people should offer a job for a jobless person, if he can not offer the job, he should give the lowest salary to a jobless.

That would make Canada a better place.

[Posc Student]

This seems like something Jack Layton would support, wonder will him and Olivia give up 70% of there salaries? Maybe they can allow homeless people to live in their new $2 million home?

[yarg]

How many jobless people and homeless people in Canada?

Those people cost tax payers lots of money each year.

They have too much time that they can increase crime rate that make other people life in danger.

Rich people make most money by evil laws such as provide non-exist money to others and ask for interest like which bankers did.

And such as use evil laws and charge others and try to be lawyer to "help" others.

And such as use license laws to prevent others go into a professional area and charge for high prices.

And such as use lawls to monopoly an industry and prevent others do the same job and maintain a high prices.

And such as use wars to robber wealth from other nations, or make money buy take advantage of low labour price of other nations.

Or use patent laws to make unfair large amount of money from the whole world

And many other evil things.

Basically, those are all evil robbery.

To make the world a little bit fair, support poor people should not only the poor middle class's work, they have suffered too much.

The richest should have some duty.

Each certain amount of too many money made by a people should offer a job for a jobless person, if he can not offer the job, he should give the lowest salary to a jobless.

That would make Canada a better place.

Grow up, or get help.

[BornAlbertan]

How many jobless people and homeless people in Canada?

Those people cost tax payers lots of money each year.

They have too much time that they can increase crime rate that make other people life in danger.

Rich people make most money by evil laws such as provide non-exist money to others and ask for interest like which bankers did.

And such as use evil laws and charge others and try to be lawyer to "help" others.

And such as use license laws to prevent others go into a professional area and charge for high prices.

And such as use laws to monopoly an industry and prevent others do the same job and maintain a high prices.

And such as use wars to robber wealth from other nations, or make money buy take advantage of low labour price of other nations.

Or use patent laws to make unfair large amount of money from the whole world

And many other evil things.

Basically, those are all evil robbery.

To make the world a little bit fair, support poor people should not only the poor middle class's work, they have suffered too much.

The richest should have some duty.

Each certain amount of too many money made by a people should offer a job for a jobless person, if he can not offer the job, he should give the lowest salary to a jobless.

That would make Canada a better place.

You ever thought that there are reasons why some people are poor....some people are homeless....some people are unemployed?

Of one thing I have learned through the years, everything happens for a reason. Not saying there is a devine reason, but there is a reason....a cause if you will. And it isn't the fault of the rich guy so why should he be guilted and goaded into giving a job to someone who in all likelihood could be serving up coffee at Tim Horton's if he wanted to work badly enough?

Make Canada a better place? Yeah...look how the Soviet Union turned out...

What a bunch of socialist bullshit.

[Guest Derek L]

How many jobless people and homeless people in Canada?

Those people cost tax payers lots of money each year.

They have too much time that they can increase crime rate that make other people life in danger.

Rich people make most money by evil laws such as provide non-exist money to others and ask for interest like which bankers did.

And such as use evil laws and charge others and try to be lawyer to "help" others.

And such as use license laws to prevent others go into a professional area and charge for high prices.

And such as use laws to monopoly an industry and prevent others do the same job and maintain a high prices.

And such as use wars to robber wealth from other nations, or make money buy take advantage of low labour price of other nations.

Or use patent laws to make unfair large amount of money from the whole world

And many other evil things.

Basically, those are all evil robbery.

To make the world a little bit fair, support poor people should not only the poor middle class's work, they have suffered too much.

The richest should have some duty.

Each certain amount of too many money made by a people should offer a job for a jobless person, if he can not offer the job, he should give the lowest salary to a jobless.

That would make Canada a better place.

Thats funny, everytime I see a homeless person on the street asking for spare change or washing windows at a red light, I offer them a days work cutting my grass, cut some hedges and dig out an old stump. My offer is always the same, $250 bucks for the day, the use of my tools, a free lunch & all the coffee they can drink and a ride to and from my place.........to a person, they give me a look like I have three heads and walk away......

[Topaz]

I would say there's more unemployed people since 2008 than ever before in Canada. I would also say more people have lost their homes, besides their jobs, since 2008. I would say that most of the job losses in the manufacturing could have been avoided by both, governments if certain policies were changed but that will never because companies are making more money through the "global economy" and the leaders of the governments are for corporations and show less compassion to workers, working or unemployed. When it comes down to it, every Canadian is on their own, with little help from governments. Perhaps, that is why so many young people joined the NDP, because they know as a politician, you have great benefits after 6 years and age 55.

[Dave_ON]

This seems like something Jack Layton would support, wonder will him and Olivia give up 70% of there salaries? Maybe they can allow homeless people to live in their new $2 million home?

They should let them live in their house, they don't need it now that they're living in Stornaway.

[capricorn]

They should let them live in their house, they don't need it now that they're living in Stornaway.

Better than than, there are 32 rooms in Stornaway. One room for Jack and Olivia, and 2 homeless in the other 31 rooms accommodates 62 of them. It's not as if the power couple will be paying any rent.

[blueblood]

I would say there's more unemployed people since 2008 than ever before in Canada. I would also say more people have lost their homes, besides their jobs, since 2008. I would say that most of the job losses in the manufacturing could have been avoided by both, governments if certain policies were changed but that will never because companies are making more money through the "global economy" and the leaders of the governments are for corporations and show less compassion to workers, working or unemployed. When it comes down to it, every Canadian is on their own, with little help from governments. Perhaps, that is why so many young people joined the NDP, because they know as a politician, you have great benefits after 6 years and age 55.

Maybe you should roll out west more often. There are billboards on the highway advertising jobs in the oilfield.

[Topaz]

Maybe you should roll out west more often. There are billboards on the highway advertising jobs in the oilfield.

Really? How many female boomers working there?

[Sandy MacNab]

Thats funny, everytime I see a homeless person on the street asking for spare change or washing windows at a red light, I offer them a days work cutting my grass, cut some hedges and dig out an old stump. My offer is always the same, $250 bucks for the day, the use of my tools, a free lunch & all the coffee they can drink and a ride to and from my place.........to a person, they give me a look like I have three heads and walk away......

You don't have the right type of grass.

[Bonam]

Really? How many female boomers working there?

Plenty. You know, cafeteria staff at the oil facilities. A workplace cafeteria just isn't the same without a grumpy old lady serving you the food.

[Bonam]

Thats funny, everytime I see a homeless person on the street asking for spare change or washing windows at a red light, I offer them a days work cutting my grass, cut some hedges and dig out an old stump. My offer is always the same, $250 bucks for the day, the use of my tools, a free lunch & all the coffee they can drink and a ride to and from my place.........to a person, they give me a look like I have three heads and walk away......

That's my impression as well. While I haven't personally offered them jobs, many of the homeless people I see out begging look like they could get a job if they bothered trying. Many of them are young and relatively healthy, and there are a number of low skilled jobs around being advertised. Yeah, they might be minimum wage or close to it, but that's enough to get a modest place to live and food to eat. I'd go as far as to say that for quite a few of these homeless people, it is more a lifestyle choice than anything else. They have their homeless buddies they hang out with, and from conversations I've heard at bus stops and such, they are enjoying themselves and not exactly starving or dying.

[Sandy MacNab]

That's my impression as well. While I haven't personally offered them jobs, many of the homeless people I see out begging look like they could get a job if they bothered trying. Many of them are young and relatively healthy, and there are a number of low skilled jobs around being advertised. Yeah, they might be minimum wage or close to it, but that's enough to get a modest place to live and food to eat. I'd go as far as to say that for quite a few of these homeless people, it is more a lifestyle choice than anything else. They have their homeless buddies they hang out with, and from conversations I've heard at bus stops and such, they are enjoying themselves and not exactly starving or dying.

Much like the EI SKI CLUB

[Bonam]

Much like the EI SKI CLUB

Yeah I know a few ski bums too. You know, work a few months a year at the ski resorts and be unemployed the rest of the time. They consciously pick that lifestyle and enjoy it as it lets them spend their time skiing/boarding and having fun. Then there's all the couch-surfers too.

I think for homelessness stats to be meaningful, some effort should be taken to separate out those who do not have a permanent residence as a matter of choice/preference.

Edited May 7, 2011 by Bonam

[Guest Derek L]

That's my impression as well. While I haven't personally offered them jobs, many of the homeless people I see out begging look like they could get a job if they bothered trying. Many of them are young and relatively healthy, and there are a number of low skilled jobs around being advertised. Yeah, they might be minimum wage or close to it, but that's enough to get a modest place to live and food to eat. I'd go as far as to say that for quite a few of these homeless people, it is more a lifestyle choice than anything else. They have their homeless buddies they hang out with, and from conversations I've heard at bus stops and such, they are enjoying themselves and not exactly starving or dying.

Though I don’t have any firm statistics at hand, in Vancouver’s lower mainland, from my own personal observations, I’d guesstimate that roughly 1/3rd are young and appear healthy, another 1/3rd appear to have substance abuse issues and the final third appear to be mentally ill.

Those with substance abuse issues I have zero sympathy, likewise the young and lazy. The mentally ill is another storey, but in many circumstances they would rather be “on their own” then kept in a mental health center.

[Oleg Bach]

DAMNED RIGHT>>> if our buisness elite - send off all the jobs to China so they can further increase profits - and we can buy product that falls apart in the first week of use...then those buisness types should be responsible for the poverty they caused.

[pegasus]

Thats funny, everytime I see a homeless person on the street asking for spare change or washing windows at a red light, I offer them a days work cutting my grass, cut some hedges and dig out an old stump. My offer is always the same, $250 bucks for the day, the use of my tools, a free lunch & all the coffee they can drink and a ride to and from my place.........to a person, they give me a look like I have three heads and walk away......

If I got this offer, I'd be jumping up and down for joy. I kill myself everyday at work, at bizarre hours, catering to MPs every whim, (MPs who don't even have college diplomas) and I earn less than $100 a day minus taxes. Some weeks I work full-time and others not. But being on call 24/7, my hands are tied getting a second job. And I have a couple of bachelor degrees to pay for to boot. Thank goodness I'm single living in a crappy basement one room apartment. At least I can put away $100 a month, maybe, after bills for a little vacation once a year, to visit my mother.

[ninjandrew]

Those with substance abuse issues I have zero sympathy

Are you aware that a lot of cases of substance abuse stem from child abuse, less obvious mental illnesses and syndromes, and/or being born and raised in squalid, poverty stricken communities?

[Bonam]

If I got this offer, I'd be jumping up and down for joy. I kill myself everyday at work, at bizarre hours, catering to MPs every whim, (MPs who don't even have college diplomas) and I earn less than $100 a day minus taxes. Some weeks I work full-time and others not. But being on call 24/7, my hands are tied getting a second job. And I have a couple of bachelor degrees to pay for to boot. Thank goodness I'm single living in a crappy basement one room apartment. At least I can put away $100 a month, maybe, after bills for a little vacation once a year, to visit my mother.

Sounds like you need to find yourself a better job.

[pegasus]

The mentally ill is another storey, but in many circumstances they would rather be “on their own” then kept in a mental health center.

The mentally ill are not "on their own" due to their own reasoning. They are "on their own" because there is no money for them to be kept in institutions. This is called "deinstitutionalization", and is a growing trend to save money in health care. It is these people who end up on the streets, but not by their own accord.

[pegasus]

I tried, just recently, http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=18875 Apparently skill is not something the political parties are looking for either. They appear to seek candidates from keg parties.

Edited May 7, 2011 by pegasus

[Rick]

I would say there's more unemployed people since 2008 than ever before in Canada. I would also say more people have lost their homes, besides their jobs, since 2008. I would say that most of the job losses in the manufacturing could have been avoided by both, governments if certain policies were changed but that will never because companies are making more money through the "global economy" and the leaders of the governments are for corporations and show less compassion to workers, working or unemployed. When it comes down to it, every Canadian is on their own, with little help from governments. Perhaps, that is why so many young people joined the NDP, because they know as a politician, you have great benefits after 6 years and age 55.

Well said Topaz.

Most manufacturing or warehousing jobs used to provide a wage that was sustainable for a family to live on.

Whereas these days, it's barely above minimum wage, cost of living increases are non-existent and comes without benefits or overtime pay.

Corporate greed with management taking home bloated salaries can be thanked for this.

[ninjandrew]

I'd like to hear an argument to Rick and Topaz, because I share their point of view.

[PIK]

Well said Topaz.

Most manufacturing or warehousing jobs used to provide a wage that was sustainable for a family to live on.

Whereas these days, it's barely above minimum wage, cost of living increases are non-existent and comes without benefits or overtime pay.

Corporate greed with management taking home bloated salaries can be thanked for this.

Untill the unions priced them selves out of business, a buddy of mine works for a aero space company and he bends alunimum, for 25/hr plus bennifits, and now the owner is trying to control costs and they have now vote for a strike, good bye plant and 600 jobs.Canadian have gotten lazy and expect everything right away. You just can't blame the corporations and bamks and goverment all the time, we the people have to take some resposibilty also.