scouterjim Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The Liberals will have an easier time rebuilding under a Conservative majority government. You can't see that the voters do NOT like the Liberals anymore? Look at their formeer leaders: Trudeau; Chretien. Arrogant bastards. So is Ignatieff. So is young Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Dominic LeBlanc also has a famous name and much more experience, him and Trudeau will have a battle. There's Kirsty Duncan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 You can't see that the voters do NOT like the Liberals anymore? Look at their formeer leaders: Trudeau; Chretien. Arrogant bastards. So is Ignatieff. So is young Trudeau. All politicians are arrogant. Iggy's problem wasn't arrogance, it was, so far as I can see, a chronic inability to connect with Canadians. He was a bright guy, but he isn't a politician. But I'm thinking about this. I wonder if anyone could have kept the Liberals' heads afloat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 You can't see that the voters do NOT like the Liberals anymore? Look at their formeer leaders: Trudeau; Chretien. Arrogant bastards. So is Ignatieff. So is young Trudeau. The Liberals were at 32% in the polls only a few weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The "plenty of time" thing is kind of key. With the minority situation, they've been in a cycle of trying to pick a leader, build his reputation, and build the brand in the space of months because the next election (and the next wave of attack ads) were always just around the corner. Now Jack Layton will be the guy in the spotlight, the Liberals are kind of on the sidelines for 4+ years, and they need it. One quibble I have. People keep referencing the 1993 election and saying "well, the PCs were down to 2 seats, and they came back..." But the PCs never really came back. They stumbled along on their own for a few years, but they "came back" only by merging with a larger party with a base in parts of the country they were no longer viable in. -k Yep, when the dust settled in the 1993 election, the PC's were effectively done forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Yep, when the dust settled in the 1993 election, the PC's were effectively done forever. Wow I can't believe that Shwa and I are the only ones here to see that McGuinty is soley responsible for the liberal stager Dalton has become to the liberals what Rae was to the NDP in the 90's,literally! This party will never get it right if it can never see the faults that need to be corrected. The word here is called "misdiagnose" Good luck! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylionstorm07 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I hope they elect Bob Rae. Sweet justice and the death of the Liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Aye. They didn't 'merge'; they 'sub-merged'... and ceased to exist. It was impossible to exise the progressive from the conservative, and still have progressive conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munsinger Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I hope they elect Bob Rae. Sweet justice and the death of the Liberals. Bob is a powerhouse! Not many guys have the power to kill 2 parties.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylionstorm07 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Bob is a powerhouse! Not many guys have the power to kill 2 parties.... Hopefully after that, Ontarians (specifically those that still voted for the Liberals) realize that the problem in the early 90s was not the NDP. The problem was Bob Rae. Then they can realize that it's their fault that the Conservatives got a majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Wow I can't believe that Shwa and I are the only ones here to see that McGuinty is soley responsible for the liberal stager Where did I say that Premier McGuinty is soley responsible for the liberal stager (sic)? He hasn't helped, but solely responsible?? I dun think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 IMO Dominic Leblanc is the only choice. Rae is done, justin is a joke, corrderre will never get a vote outside of quebec, hung out with to many terrorist types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylionstorm07 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) IMO Dominic Leblanc is the only choice. Rae is done, justin is a joke, corrderre will never get a vote outside of quebec, hung out with to many terrorist types. The sad part is there is no one exciting for the Liberals. Everyone pretty much provides a "meh" response to Canadians outside of core historical Liberal supporters. This is even more sad when you consider that the NDP already has an extremely strong leader-in-waiting with Mulcair. Edited May 3, 2011 by nittanylionstorm07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The sad part is there is no one exciting for the Liberals. Everyone pretty much provides a "meh" response to Canadians outside of core historical Liberal supporters. This is even more sad when you consider that the NDP already has an extremely strong leader-in-waiting with Mulcair. From what I've seen of Dominic LeBlanc I think he could win over people once they get to know him. He's a smart guy, from I've seen he's not overly charasmatic, none of the leaders really are, but he has a personality and he was honest in 2008 about the trouble the party was in. The fact that he is not well known may also be a good thing for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 IMO Dominic Leblanc is the only choice. Rae is done, justin is a joke, corrderre will never get a vote outside of quebec, hung out with to many terrorist types. It will be Leblanc. Quebec, now that the BQ's hold has been broken, has enormous potential for the Liberals. They will focus their efforts there. The NDP have nothing even remotely like a solid hold on all those seats they got. The enthusiasm for them will fade, and if the Liberals show up in four years with a sensible, Quebec oriented platform and a personable French Quebec leader they will get dozens of them back. Popularity in Quebec has always carried a caveat with Ontario, and so it will help them there, too. They might not build all the way up to a new government, but they'll come out respectable, doubling their seat count, if not more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNG Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I'm about as far from a Rae fan as can be, but being a westerner, I also don't have the hate or the scorn some on this forum show as he hasn't really affected me that much. But I am suspicious of an NDP'er going to the Liberals. For some reason, more so than a Liberal going to the NDP. His speech last night as shown on CBC was pretty well done. But a bit of "Yes, Iggy is done, now it's my chance!" sort of peeked out from behind the melodious sounds he was making. Sort of got a bit of power hungry snake impression out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Where did I say that Premier McGuinty is soley responsible for the liberal stager (sic)? He hasn't helped, but solely responsible?? I dun think so... Sorry I thought you had suggested that. Then I am the only one here to see this! Good for me! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Bob is a powerhouse! Not many guys have the power to kill 2 parties.... Actually if the liberal party had Bob at the healm and not Ignatieff they would have done a little better(in my opinion) But still not enough to overcome the McGuinty affect! WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Rob Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 The sad part is there is no one exciting for the Liberals. Everyone pretty much provides a "meh" response to Canadians outside of core historical Liberal supporters. This is even more sad when you consider that the NDP already has an extremely strong leader-in-waiting with Mulcair. Is Stephen Harper exciting? How about somebody that does the job well? Somebody who leads based on ideology rather than strategic positioning with no other purpose besides getting elected? How about somebody that doesn't sound like a used car salesmen trying to pitch something even he doesn't believe. Ignatieff was kind of exciting, inspiring he was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posc Student Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Actually if the liberal party had Bob at the healm and not Ignatieff they would have done a little better(in my opinion) But still not enough to overcome the McGuinty affect! WWWTT The Ontario Liberals are still in the mid to high 30's in support, Ignatieff would have loved to get a number that big last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppurr Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 I hope they elect Bob Rae. Sweet justice and the death of the Liberals. Actually, I'm half expecting him to walk over to the NDP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 The Ontario Liberals are still in the mid to high 30's in support, Ignatieff would have loved to get a number that big last night. Wow I haven't looked at any Ontario numbers yet. I somehow find it hard to believe(HST and G20 police power) but I guess we will see in the next few months since the Ontario election will be the next slugfest coming up in Canadian politics. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppurr Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 IMO Dominic Leblanc is the only choice. Rae is done, justin is a joke, corrderre will never get a vote outside of quebec, hung out with to many terrorist types. I agree - Justin is a joke. Just about every commentary I've read labels him as a "light weight". He was a drama teacher prior to his father's death and iirc it was only because of the eulogy he delivered at his father's funeral that caused all the liberals to be in awe and give him visions of grandeur and thus a move across the Country to become an MP. Who knows what will happen in 4 yrs though. He might inspire the younger vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 I agree - Justin is a joke. Just about every commentary I've read labels him as a "light weight". He was a drama teacher prior to his father's death and iirc it was only because of the eulogy he delivered at his father's funeral that caused all the liberals to be in awe and give him visions of grandeur and thus a move across the Country to become an MP. Who knows what will happen in 4 yrs though. He might inspire the younger vote. I couldn't believe the interview he gave last night, what a jackass. Anything that I may have thought about him before, and it wasn't alot, was diminished after listening to him talk of celebrating. I think he may have been half in the bag actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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