Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 More great news for Jack Layton and his enegetic and focused NDP Team. Only 2 days left now before we go to the polls, and the orange wave is still surging as we saw in the Ipsos Reid poll released today showing that the NDP has gained 14% on the Cons in the past nine days, and the NDP is now only 5% out of first place with a couple of days left. All the stars seem to aligning left for the NDP's historic Monday nite. Toronto Star endorses the NDP Monday’s federal election may well turn out to be historic for all kinds of reasons that were not obvious when it was called five weeks ago today. Unless the pollsters have totally misread the mood of the voters, Stephen Harper’s Conservatives look to be heading for another victory. As we said on Friday, that would be bad for the country. The last thing Canada needs is an affirmation of a government obsessed with control, dismissive of critics, and determined to further diminish the role of the state in charting a better future for the country. Voters who believe that Canada can — and should — aim higher have an important decision. Until 10 days ago, they had only one realistic alternative to the Conservatives — the Liberal party under Michael Ignatieff. Today, that is no longer the case. The New Democrats have been reinvigorated under the leadership of Jack Layton. After Monday, they may well challenge the Liberals as the principal national standard-bearer for the roughly two voters in three who disagree fundamentally with the course charted by the Harper Conservatives. Progressive voters should give them their support on Monday. http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/983376--toronto-star-endorses-the-ndp Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I still don't like the star but the last line just summed it up for me. Fortunately, this time there is a real choice. Voters who believe Canada should aspire to something greater than the crabbed, narrow vision offered by the Harper Conservatives should look to Jack Layton and the New Democrats on Monday. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) More great news for Jack Layton and his enegetic and focused NDP Team. Only 2 days left now before we go to the polls, and the orange wave is still surging as we saw in the Ipsos Reid poll released today showing that the NDP has gained 14% on the Cons in the past nine days, and the NDP is now only 5% out of first place with a couple of days left. All the stars seem to aligning left for the NDP's historic Monday nite. Toronto Star endorses the NDP Mondays federal election may well turn out to be historic for all kinds of reasons that were not obvious when it was called five weeks ago today. Unless the pollsters have totally misread the mood of the voters, Stephen Harpers Conservatives look to be heading for another victory. As we said on Friday, that would be bad for the country. The last thing Canada needs is an affirmation of a government obsessed with control, dismissive of critics, and determined to further diminish the role of the state in charting a better future for the country. Voters who believe that Canada can and should aim higher have an important decision. Until 10 days ago, they had only one realistic alternative to the Conservatives the Liberal party under Michael Ignatieff. Today, that is no longer the case. The New Democrats have been reinvigorated under the leadership of Jack Layton. After Monday, they may well challenge the Liberals as the principal national standard-bearer for the roughly two voters in three who disagree fundamentally with the course charted by the Harper Conservatives. Progressive voters should give them their support on Monday. http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/983376--toronto-star-endorses-the-ndp Has a major media outlet ever retracted a political endorsement after news surfaced that may contradict their initial beliefs? In Layton it has a leader who has won the trust of many voters — a rare feat in a time dominated by cynical, ultra-partisan politicking. As a product of Toronto’s municipal scene and a veteran of urban politics, he is more attuned than any other major leader to the needs of our country’s cities — the engines of innovation and future prosperity. Edited April 30, 2011 by Derek L Quote
punked Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Has a major media outlet ever retracted a political endorsement after “news” surfaced that may contradict their initial beliefs? You do know they published this endorsement AFTER the todays "news" the Jack Layton never did anything wrong. Right? Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) -- Edited April 30, 2011 by Harry Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Has a major media outlet ever retracted a political endorsement after news surfaced that may contradict their initial beliefs? Are you talking about another one of those right-wing drive-by smear tactics? I'm hearing there is such repulsion to this kind of politics, that it is going to give the NDP an additional 6 seats. This just confirms to voters what Layton has been saying all along, that Ottawa is broken, and the NDP is going to fix it, and clean up all the scandals at the same time. Goodness Harper sounds so desperate today. Kinda sad really. It seems that both the Con and the Lib campaigns are in crisis. Edited April 30, 2011 by Harry Quote
cybercoma Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I'm hearing there is such repulsion to this kind of politics, that it is going to give the NDP an additional 6 seats.This is just nonsense. How do you translate repulsion into seats? Come on now. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 You do know they published this endorsement AFTER the todays "news" the Jack Layton never did anything wrong. Right? Sure, but it was being talked about on, I think Power & Politics this afternoon... After W.'s DUI became public knowledge a few days prior to the election, did any media outlets retract their support? Quote
Guest Derek L Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Are you talking about another one of those right-wing drive-by smear tactics? I'm hearing there is such repulsion to this kind of politics, that it is going to give the NDP an additional 6 seats. This just confirms to voters what Layton has been saying all along, that Ottawa is broken, and the NDP is going to fix it, and clean up all the scandals at the same time. Goodness Harper sounds so desperate today. Kinda sad really. It seems that both the Con and the Lib campaigns are in crisis. Are you accusing a political party of engineering a "news" item, that has been acknowledged by the "victim"? Quote
Topaz Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Talking about endorsing, I see the mayor of TO has come out and is supporting the Tories. Does this mean Toronto will host the future G20 again?? Quote
Shady Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 and the NDP is now only 5% out of first place with a couple of days left. Actually, the NDP are now at 29% to Conservatives 38%. You must be working of old data. No magical night for the NDP on monday. Sorry. Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 Actually, the NDP are now at 29% to Conservatives 38%. You must be working of old data. No magical night for the NDP on monday. Sorry. You and Bryan must be related with your cherry-picking of polls. Nice try though. Quote
Shady Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 You and Bryan must be related with your cherry-picking of polls. Nice try though. It's the latest poll my friend. I'm sorry you don't like it because the NDP are down. But you can't pick and choose reality. Quote
Harry Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Posted April 30, 2011 It's the latest poll my friend. I'm sorry you don't like it because the NDP are down. But you can't pick and choose reality. I just love watching all the dirty tricks that come out when tea-baggers panic. Shades of Donald Trump! Quote
Shady Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I just love watching all the dirty tricks that come out when tea-baggers panic. Shades of Donald Trump! Huh? What does a latest poll have to do with tea-baggers and Donald Trump? Gee, who's in panic now? Stick to the issues. Quote
Shady Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 Harper's also up 10 over Layton in the leadership index. That's probably Donald Trumps fault to right? Quote
Scotty Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 I still don't like the star but the last line just summed it up for me. Fortunately, this time there is a real choice. Voters who believe Canada should aspire to something greater than the crabbed, narrow vision offered by the Harper Conservatives should look to Jack Layton and the New Democrats on Monday. I think what they meant to say was "voters who believe Canada should aspire to something greater than the realistic, careful, financially sensible vision offered by the Harper Conservatives should look to Jack Layton.." Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Keepitsimple Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) The Star's been working overtime lately as every Letter to the Editor has been bashing the Conservatives. These guys just never learn - they bashed old Rob Ford so much that people felt sorry for the guy and just ignored the Star. Further to the Star's Endorsement of the NDP - it followed with this priceless gem - right below the endoresment: But vote strategicallyIn some parts of the country there is a real risk that a surge toward the NDP could sap the Liberal vote and have the perverse effect of tipping more seats to the Conservatives. Voters worried about that should consider voting strategically — giving their support to the progressive candidate best placed to win. In much of the GTA, that means Liberals. Indeed, there are a number of seats that Liberals won by a narrow margin over Conservatives in 2008. The Liberal candidates in those ridings deserve support. They include Ruby Dhalla in Brampton-Springdale; Andrew Kania in Brampton West; Rob Oliphant in Don Valley West; Joe Volpe in Eglinton-Lawrence; Paul Szabo in Mississauga South; and Ken Dryden in York Centre. Going for the NDP in those ridings risks handing more seats to the Conservatives. That would be the worst outcome for the province — and the country. Link: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/983380--but-vote-strategically Edited April 30, 2011 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
PIK Posted April 30, 2011 Report Posted April 30, 2011 The star is the only paper that is backing jack,they have to. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Slim MacSquinty Posted May 1, 2011 Report Posted May 1, 2011 The Star would never let the facts get in the way of pushing their agenda. Couple of interesting articles in there today, they have a full parade of soft headed left wing experts to quote with authority. We should all be thankful that those who look after their own money, your mutual funds and our pensions don't look to the Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives for economic expertise unlike the Torstar. Quote
Harry Posted May 1, 2011 Author Report Posted May 1, 2011 (edited) The Star would never let the facts get in the way of pushing their agenda. Couple of interesting articles in there today, they have a full parade of soft headed left wing experts to quote with authority. We should all be thankful that those who look after their own money, your mutual funds and our pensions don't look to the Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives for economic expertise unlike the Torstar. Right. You seem like quite the expert yourself. Edited May 1, 2011 by Harry Quote
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