Sleipnir Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 I can't believe any poll that has the Liberals doing that well in Calgary Centre. Newest for Calgary Center http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eERRV2A8LhM/UKuXzEu0yII/AAAAAAAALMQ/eEaG5cs1W6s/s1600/Forum.PNG Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
PIK Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 So you're saying she fell all the way down into her seat as an MP? Or is it that clothing is the most important aspect of a politician? Please feel free to elaborate on the point you're failing to make. So what she won a seat in BC, most nutcases go there when they can't win anywhere else. She was at a 1m supporters and now down to 1/2 that. And about the clothes, want people to take you seriously, then don't dress up like a bag lady. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted November 20, 2012 Report Posted November 20, 2012 Elizabeth May is a blabbermouth. Quote Back to Basics
Sleipnir Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
Fletch 27 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Its nice to see the NDP trounced in a battle-ground they thought they could take... Quote
Sleipnir Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Its nice to see the NDP trounced in a battle-ground they thought they could take... Its interesting to see how the fall in popular support for the Tories seems proportional to the rise of the Greens. Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
wyly Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 there has been discussion of the bottom pollers in calgary center dropping off the ballot if the cpc candidate was leading...nothing official between parties has been agreed to that I'm aware of...I did read there was an unofficial website that would direct voters from the trailing parties to the 2nd place candidate who stood 2nd in the polls on thursday(so anyone but cpc-crokatt...I don't live in calgary center so can't relate what voters are thinking there...it is a socially progressive riding, generally well off financially, middle class to uber-wealthy....many older baby boomers but a growing number of young professionals...the cpc candidate is wildrose supporter which is not a trait favoured by the younger better educated voters...before the candidates were selected there was discussion among the cpc that their candidate be a moderate to attract the young professional voters, those same people who put Nenshi into the mayors seat and a repeat of the provincial election where liberal NDP and Green votes went to the Conservatives to turn the tide against the the Wildrose fruitcakes..., polls would seem to indicate Crokatt isn't appealing to that demographic, that and her refusal to attend public all-candidate forums...what may save her is vote splitting... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Its interesting to see how the fall in popular support for the Tories seems proportional to the rise of the Greens. a green win would be epic, this riding is the center of the corporate energy sector...what a message that would send... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
kairos Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) The poll results aren't that surprising. The most hardcore con centers of Alberta politics work like the red states do in the states. The R voters are concentrated in the rural areas, while urban areas with higher levels of education like Dallas and Houston vote surprisingly heavily democrat. This poll is a perfect example of how the Demos is getting underrepresented by the lack of proportional representation. Edited November 22, 2012 by kairos Quote
punked Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Its nice to see the NDP trounced in a battle-ground they thought they could take... HAHAHAHA CITATION PLEASE. You make stuff out of your head to much. Come to reality where the rest of us live. Quote
wyly Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 The poll results aren't that surprising. The most hardcore con centers of Alberta politics work like the red states do in the states. The R voters are concentrated in the rural areas, while urban areas with higher levels of education like Dallas and Houston vote surprisingly heavily democrat. This poll is a perfect example of how the Demos is getting underrepresented by the lack of proportional representation. the urban areas have a large number of young migrants from other regions of canada who have no recollection of the NEP so there is a slow demographic shift to the left...Nenshi's campaign for mayor actually targeted the young vote and managed to get them out to vote, not an easy task....whether the federal MP candidates can get the younger demographic out to vote is questionable, it's one thing to support a candidate in a poll and another to actually get out and vote... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Sleipnir Posted November 24, 2012 Report Posted November 24, 2012 Latest poll for Calgary Center, from Insight. Trend: Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
TwoDucks Posted November 24, 2012 Report Posted November 24, 2012 So what she won a seat in BC, most nutcases go there when they can't win anywhere else. She was at a 1m supporters and now down to 1/2 that. And about the clothes, want people to take you seriously, then don't dress up like a bag lady. A lot of that is the lack of national presence versus increased local presence. You'll likely see the Green vote jump back up during the next campaign. She'll be an incumbent, first of all, so she'll have that boost in her riding and can focus more on the Canada-wide campaign. She spent pretty much all her time boots on The ground. Also, she will hopefully not have to fight to get into the debates. And who knows? Maybe there will be some event that promotes the Environment as a major issue. A ridiculous heat wave, or something. Quote
Sleipnir Posted November 24, 2012 Report Posted November 24, 2012 Also, she will hopefully not have to fight to get into the debates. Maybe the future criteria to participate in debate must have at least 12 seats (party status). Quote "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence; then success is sure." - Mark Twain
TwoDucks Posted November 25, 2012 Report Posted November 25, 2012 Maybe the future criteria to participate in debate must have at least 12 seats (party status). Could be. Or could be they limit it to the three most popular parties. Or Greens could be absorbed into one of the existing parties and all of those other things might not matter. All I'm saying is they used that excuse before to prevent them from debating. Quote
kairos Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 " Maybe the future criteria to participate in debate must have at least 12 seats (party status)." That's anti-democratic. The last time the corporations tried to ban the greens from the debates, the greens elected their first member. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 When she brings something relevant to the table other than her single seat.... Maybe even the CBC will let her spout from her pedestal... Till then.... She is where she is.. One seat more than the communist party of canada btw..... Very close race. Quote
kairos Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Its nice to hear right wing authoritarians getting together and trying to keep voices out of a supposedly democratic country. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Its nice to hear right wing authoritarians getting together and trying to keep voices out of a supposedly democratic country. She has one more seat than the COmmunist party.,.. Or the Pot-Party of Canada.... "Oh... the voices"!!! Quote
kairos Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 Yes its established that you'd prefer voices to be silent. That's not what democracy is about. Quote
wyly Posted November 28, 2012 Report Posted November 28, 2012 he has no idea what democracy is... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Fletch 27 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 Sure boys... Let's have the communist party who is one vote shy of the greens participate too. Grow Up. Take the soothes to the cleaners and play in the real world Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 Blah blah. "you have no idea"........ Very educated... Very mature. Quote
kairos Posted November 29, 2012 Report Posted November 29, 2012 1940s and 50s style Mccarthyism pretty sad mentality for the 21st century. Quote
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