Why do Canadians love to be lied to by poiticians?

[scouterjim]

All the candidates are promising this, that and the other thing, and Canadians believe every one of these lies. Why is the electorate so gullible? Why do they like being lied to? ALL the parties are full of crap, and have NO intention of honouring their promises.

[eyeball]

I'm so ronery I'm so ronery

So ronery

So ronery and sadry arone

[Bryan]

All the candidates are promising this, that and the other thing, and Canadians believe every one of these lies. Why is the electorate so gullible? Why do they like being lied to? ALL the parties are full of crap, and have NO intention of honouring their promises.

On The Agenda the other night, they had a panel discussion with former politicians and they were accounting for what the different levels of "lies" politicians tell are.

There are things that they truly mean at the time, but circumstances changed forcing change in position. Income trusts was an example of this.

There are things they probably shouldn't have promised, because they didn't realize at the time how difficult it would be. Most failed promises fall here.

Then there are outright lies. Promises where the intention all along was to do the opposite. These are far less common, but when they do happen, they're usually big, like Trudeau and wage/price controls.

The episode is archived here:

http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=7&bpn=109136&ts=2011-04-08%2020:00:00.0

[TimG]

All the candidates are promising this, that and the other thing, and Canadians believe every one of these lies. Why is the electorate so gullible?

I don't believe the electorate is gullible and most people understand that some promises will not be kept. Politicians lie because vocal minorities/special interest groups raise a huge ruckus if their pet issue is ignored. Politicians have learned the political damage from telling lies is less that telling these interest groups that they are not going to get what they want. It is political equivalent of telling your wife that those pants don't make her look fat... Edited April 19, 2011 by TimG

[scouterjim]

I don't believe the electorate is gullible and most people understand that some promises will not be kept. Politicians lie because vocal minorities/special interest groups raise a huge ruckus if their pet issue is ignored. Politicians have learned the political damage from telling lies is less that telling these interest groups that they are not going to get what they want. It is political equivalent of telling your wife that those pants don't make her look fat...

I guarantee that I NEVER tell my wife she looks fat in anything!!

[scouterjim]

On The Agenda the other night, they had a panel discussion with former politicians and they were accounting for what the different levels of "lies" politicians tell are.

There are things that they truly mean at the time, but circumstances changed forcing change in position. Income trusts was an example of this.

There are things they probably shouldn't have promised, because they didn't realize at the time how difficult it would be. Most failed promises fall here.

Then there are outright lies. Promises where the intention all along was to do the opposite. These are far less common, but when they do happen, they're usually big, like Trudeau and wage/price controls.

The episode is archived here:

http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=7&bpn=109136&ts=2011-04-08%2020:00:00.0

Kinda like Trudeau's promise to not raise gas 16 cents/gallon? That was a promise he kept. He raised it 12 cents, and 20 cents, and one time 17 cents, but NEVER 16 cents.

[mikedavid00]

All the candidates are promising this, that and the other thing, and Canadians believe every one of these lies. Why is the electorate so gullible? Why do they like being lied to? ALL the parties are full of crap, and have NO intention of honouring their promises.

It's just because most Canadians compared to Americans and British are very ignorant and uneducated. They want their politicians to have 'charisma' and 'sell them' on 'new ideas' and dumb sh*t like that.

They don't know how the economy works, how taxes work, how many civil servants there are, who pays their paychecks.

The average political hack and dumb dumb in this country and on this forum thinks that money falls from the sky. It's an endless supply to play around with so we can send civil servants and their families to useless confreres in Rio De Janeiro.

Canadians are basically dumb and it's one of the reasons a goal in life is to get the hell away from this place eventually. Problem is, other countries around the world have this thing called an 'immigration policy'. Only Canada just lets people wander in.

[William Ashley]

I don't like being lied to, it only perpetuates a false reality. If someone lies to me and I lie to them, suddently there is no fact and communication is novelty.

That isn't the world I sought.

Part of the problem is though, that once it starts the ethical context is ruined.

Not everyone is lets mirror the other person, but we all know that just builds the situation perpetually.

It takes the bigger person to correct the situation by not force multiplying - unfortunately.... those people are not Stephen Harper.

I don't support being lied to, it takes an honest person to earn my respect, any politician who lies to me without an explanation and reasonable grounds ain't going to win my support. On the contrary it will earn them an absence of any insurance of truth from my end.

Lies arn't the problem, the problem is lies when you depend on them, and place trust in them.

Nothing is true unless you experience it yourself.. given false reports though, makes it very difficult to be involved socially. The social trust is ruined, while it can happen to anyone any time and real people don't depend on others... when you stop preparing based on liers statements it only means liers won't get support. Its the whole boy who cried wolf context.

I think people either know reality or don't.

People who know it will see the lie for what it makes. People who don't will only be put deeper into their baseless existence - tending to be nothing but atomic playpeople. People who don't see beneath their own root are tools anyway there is no real truth for them only what they are fooled to beleive until they know.

Its a game to people who know the real - either they are wolves in sheepskin - or mostly helpless attempting to play a moral card that has been soiled by the wolves painting of those cards.

Manufactured consent.. either they want it or they don't know.

Edited April 19, 2011 by William Ashley

[eyeball]

Canadians are basically dumb and it's one of the reasons a goal in life is to get the hell away from this place eventually. Problem is, other countries around the world have this thing called an 'immigration policy'. Only Canada just lets people wander in.

Hah, I guess scooter isn't so ronery and sadry arone after all.

[Moonbox]

It's just because most Canadians compared to Americans and British are very ignorant and uneducated. They want their politicians to have 'charisma' and 'sell them' on 'new ideas' and dumb sh*t like that.

Wow. I'm surprised by how dumb this statement is. Seriously. Go sit in a dark corner by yourself and think about what you just said. We're ignorant and uneducated compared to Americans? What did you base this on? Could it have been.....NOTHING?

How much a candidate goes to Church or what type of mustard they put on their hot dogs doesn't seem to come up in a Canadian election. It sure does in the US.

They don't know how the economy works, how taxes work, how many civil servants there are, who pays their paychecks.

I'd be surprised if you really understand the economy much yourself with a comment like the one above...

Canadians are basically dumb and it's one of the reasons a goal in life is to get the hell away from this place eventually. Problem is, other countries around the world have this thing called an 'immigration policy'. Only Canada just lets people wander in.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Edited April 19, 2011 by Moonbox