Messing with the gene pool - ABORTION

[Oleg Bach]

I swear by this premise. That our population has become less beautiful and more stupified. Because I have been around longer than most I have seen the incrimental change in human live stock.

We have this notion that materially prosperous people must be more intelligent.. That rich people are superiour some how too the poor. Our young men and woman were taught that they could "not afford" children - and to "delay" having a family...untill they were finacially secure...and that teenage mothers of hardy stock would "ruin" their lives and forfeit their "career" through getting pregnant.

I see many older woman who went for this feminist eccentric propoganda...and now they are pushing 60 - live alone and are childless...also the promise of riches and security did not fully materialize as expected and promised.

Today we lack good art..good music - good justice - good political personage.....because the people that should be here are NOT here..Because we are of a more material and less spiritual mindset...we have traded dull utilitarianism for beauty and intelligence...I am sure the large corporations who as said by one of their big dogs...are happy with this brave new world...quote..."We do not want intelligent and bright inovative people...we only want the mediocre"...And for the most part that is what we have.

The big collective beastly machine convinced us that baring good offspring was some how detrimental to our survival. I don't believe there was some sinister intent behind what took place - It was simply that MONEY became a more popular form of wealth than children. Now - when I view media - all I see are homely woman and whimpish girly men...I see them in the street also...I see them inhabit the politcal arena and the judical one also...If you toss enough money at a mediocre person...give them a fine suit of clothes - and a three hundred dollar hair cut...along with some make up - You can pass of an ugly dog like Lady GA GA as something beautiful - when thirty years ago she would have been considered ugly.

You can see this phenomena in Hollywood also - Liz Taylor was a natural beauty...now they promote woman and men that are inferiour as the bench mark for gaging intelligence and beauty...

Look at the President of the USA - he appears to be a pin headed dog eared boy..His wife is unattractive and has no class...as was proven when she took it upon herself to maul the back of the Queen of England by pawing her like a dog..Abortion in it's present and former state was a mistake. What is worse is that our good breeding stock is duped and sent off to wage wars...to die and not re-produce..to become victims of post tramatic stress...to come back de-limbed...

Human resourses were horribly managed in the last thirty years and we have lost our most valuable collateral...abortion for the most part is the worst collatoral damage ever! Not to mention that in the end it served no good purpose other than perhaps to replace our human stock with immigrants that other nations do not want.

[Bonam]

First, it is true that people are having less kids than before. It's not an issue of abortion though. The number of abortions is tiny, pretty much negligible, compared to the overall drop in birth rates. People primarily use birth control to prevent themselves from having children until they want to.

The choices of people to not have children, have fewer children, or have children later in life are based on changing values and changing culture, not the existence of abortion. The reduced birth rates can certainly be seen as a problem from the demographic standpoint, and this issue is something that should perhaps be considered and addressed through economic and social change. But removing access to abortion wouldn't change anything, the numbers aborted are not large enough to impact the demographic trends.

Today we lack good art..good music - good justice - good political personage.....because the people that should be here are NOT here

There is no evidence to suggest that there are some exceptional qualities to the potential humans that have not been born due to abortion. Both samples are large enough that they would, on average, have had the same intrinsic qualities as the rest of the population, on average.

You can pass of an ugly dog like Lady GA GA as something beautiful - when thirty years ago she would have been considered ugly.

Err... not really, she's still ugly.

You can see this phenomena in Hollywood also - Liz Taylor was a natural beauty...now they promote woman and men that are inferiour as the bench mark for gaging intelligence and beauty...

Hollywood actors are not where you should be looking for examples and bench marks of intelligence. As for beauty, there are plenty of natural beauties there. You sure you can still tell?

Look at the President of the USA - he appears to be a pin headed dog eared boy..His wife is unattractive and has no class...as was proven when she took it upon herself to maul the back of the Queen of England by pawing her like a dog..Abortion in it's present and former state was a mistake.

They're black... of course they aren't gonna appear classy to an old Slavic guy such as yourself.

What is worse is that our good breeding stock is duped and sent off to wage wars...to die and not re-produce..to become victims of post tramatic stress...to come back de-limbed...

People volunteer for the military, it is their own choice. Additionally, today, the vast majority of people in the military, and even of those who do go off to war, come back home just fine. This is much unlike earlier generations (which you reminisce on more fondly) when people went off to fight in WWI and WWII and died by the millions.

Edited March 27, 2011 by Bonam

[cybercoma]

So wait a minute... you think because your subjective opinions about music, art, justice, etc. have somthing to do with a change in the gene pool? That's funny.

[Oleg Bach]

So wait a minute... you think because your subjective opinions about music, art, justice, etc. have somthing to do with a change in the gene pool? That's funny.

From a spiritual point of view I believe there are people that are gifted...from what I see..the jerks have destroyed the competition before it could take it's first breath. Look at the quality and the shift from brilliant and beautiful to dull and artifical. We had a revolution take place in North America...the smart people were over thrown - before they could defend themselves - I have revolved around the sun for over 60 trips...and I do see a change in the culture...the quality of humanity has declined. No one understands or knows what great wonders would have taken place if some of the wonderful people were allowed to be born.... instead we have folks like you who parrot phrases like "subjective opinions" - which mean nothing other than an out of cadence dance with language. You might be proof of my observation...there is good art...and there is artless art....there is great music and there is bad music..We live in a world where money and high conspiratorial organizationi trumps beauty....Heaven forbid you would have to deal with people that were actually intelligent.

[Oleg Bach]

Have you noticed that human sculls seem smaller these days? Abortion...and so-called choice was and is a farce...You are better off with offspring than not...children are the only real wealth - but woman and men were convinced by weasils that children are a curse and liablity...abortion was and is the great empoverishing lie....I actually believe that humans are like angels...and when good angels are sent to make the world better - the bad ones kill they by aborting their landings....Has the world become a better place in the last 30 with so-called freedom of choice - where is the freedom - I don't see any!

[guyser]

A gene pool rant from the shallow end of the pool.

[Black Dog]

Can we please abort Oleg's account?

[August1991]

Can we please abort Oleg's account?

But this is too rich:

Look at the President of the USA - he appears to be a pin headed dog eared boy..His wife is unattractive and has no class...

[Tilter]

Perhaps your gene pool suffers but My grandkids (all 8 of them) are knockouts and smart.

Because of 2 Orientals as dotters in law the next generation will be even better.--

Advise--- look beyond your own family. :lol:

[guyser]

Perhaps your gene pool suffers but My grandkids (all 8 of them) are knockouts and smart.

Because of 2 Orientals as dotters in law the next generation will be even better.--

Advise--- look beyond your own family. :lol:

You're Icelandic?

Bjork....is that you baby ?

[ToadBrother]

Perhaps your gene pool suffers but My grandkids (all 8 of them) are knockouts and smart.

Because of 2 Orientals as dotters in law the next generation will be even better.--

Advise--- look beyond your own family. :lol:

I'll pick Racial Stereotypes for $200, Alex.

Edited April 1, 2011 by ToadBrother

[guyser]

I'll pick Racial Stereotypes for $200, Alex.

I missed that 'orientals' bit.

But, 8 grandkids, so has to be someone a wee bit older than most of us , and thus gets a bit of a break on that.

[Oleg Bach]

But this is too rich:

Aborting "OLEG" - is a belated idea...don't worry when I get old and real frail they will attempt to abort me at that point...seems they like to remove you before you are born..but if you get under the abortion radar..they go for you when you are old.. They like to squeeze the life out of you at both ends of the life span...To late..Oleg the curmudgeon is here to stay untill all the abortion providers age and perish...we all get aborted eventually.

[Oleg Bach]

Perhaps your gene pool suffers but My grandkids (all 8 of them) are knockouts and smart.

Because of 2 Orientals as dotters in law the next generation will be even better.--

Advise--- look beyond your own family. :lol:

Mixing up the races is good...pure breeding creates nose weary beagle dogs that pee on the floor. You might be one of the brigher ones that understood that birthing human beings is a great thing. We have a new generation coming up that hold children in utter contempt...it might have NOT been a gene pool issue - It might have been brain washing with the idea that those without money should not give birth. Humanity would be extinct if this rule of thumb existed in the past...people are born and they survive..No one knows what a person will become.

As for that freak Morgantaler..I am sure we as a nation should never awarded him the Order Of Canada..for walking about thinking that perhaps blonde and blue eyed potential mothers are prime candidates for abortion salvation. I believe that Morgantaler was and is an idoit..To honour a jerk that actually believed that "unwanted" children (as if there is such a thing) grow up to be Nazis....we are stupid nation....

[Oleg Bach]

A gene pool rant from the shallow end of the pool.

Good point...so there is a shallow end hugh? Now who is smart enough to be able to tell where the deep end is...from above the pool appears to be the same depth. So reckless aborting of human beings is not a fine art to say the least. I really don't think that we are clever enough to decide who is to live and who is not to live.

When my first child was concieved..My dear old mother...said....You had better tell her to get an abortion...She believed that she might get stuck with the bill of raising the child...plus she understood that the woman did not love me...BUT - I did my duty...and raised four children anyway...That first child works collecting large sums of money for an NGO...She was recently honoured for her work with the Red Cross...The world is a better place because she is here..If I was like George Bush who said "always listen to your mother"...The great and fine children that I brought into the world...would not exist...Never listen to your mother!

[Oleg Bach]

Abortion in the old days was even more common than today - My dear old mum was real good at it - she considered it like going to the dentist to have a bad tooth extracted.

[Tilter]

I missed that 'orientals' bit.

But, 8 grandkids, so has to be someone a wee bit older than most of us , and thus gets a bit of a break on that.

[Tilter]

Webword defines "oriental" as:

Archaic Use

A member of an Oriental race; the term is regarded as offensive by Asians (especially by Asian Americans)

Thanks for the GIMMEE--- I didn't realize that the "O" word was derogatory and I guess neither of my Japanese & Chinese daughters-in-law realize that because they sometimes use the term in conversation. Mind you--- they are both from the Orient, not North American born.

I guess it's another word headed for the scrap heap even if "A member of an Oriental race" seems descriptive and accurate

[cybercoma]

Since the word was used in a derogatory way for so long, it carries a derogatory connotation now. You didn't use it in that way, of course. However, words are never neutral and always carry connotated meaning as well as their denoted meaning.

[Oleg Bach]

Orient simply meant, the east. It's an archiac term but it does describe those living in the far east...hence they for the most part were orientals...I really don't now why they think it is politically incorrect to use the word orient...seems fine to say - sexual orient - tation...I guess it was happy to be gay at one time or what ever - or gay meant happy...oh well I suppose I am some old guy and terms like "abortion provider" - are suppose to mean someone is actually providing something when in reality they are taking something away.

Back to oriental - They stopped using the term because "Asians" (and that is a big area) had odd shaped eyes that they were ashamed of when it came to comparison to Caucasian eyes...I guess it was pretty hard to get around the world "Black" seeing you could not name them as whites - because THAT would be far to extreme to be remotely possible - but now we are all ONE - cum bie yah!