SF/PF Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Somehow I don't think it'll have the same effect... I propose a coalition between Red doors and Blue doors. I think we can all get behind the Purple Door. Quote Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -4.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Posted March 24, 2011 Well... That concludes Question Period... The count will continue on Power and Politics AND Power Play later this afternoon... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
madmax Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Every time they do, have shot Now you got my attention Edited March 24, 2011 by madmax Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2011 Author Report Posted March 24, 2011 Now you got my attention We are going to pounding down Texas micky's a day at this rate... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Molly Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) I couldn't handle that many shots of milk, much less rye. However, I could see wiring the seats in the chamber, so that every time the word 'coalition' is used, one randomly-chosen MP gets an electrical shock sufficient to bring them to their feet. It should be accompanied by ... a bell. I thought maybe buzzer, but a bell would be better. Question Period would become mighty entertaining. Mighty entertaining. (It'd look like human whack-a-mole.) Edited March 24, 2011 by Molly Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Rovik Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 The Conservatives will try every trick in the book to stay in power. And by mentioning "coalition" a million times, they are hoping that the average Canadian brain will succumb and believe this foolishness, a sort of brain washing if you will. This "trick' is really quite childish and i hope it backfires on them. Quote
ToadBrother Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 The Conservatives will try every trick in the book to stay in power. And by mentioning "coalition" a million times, they are hoping that the average Canadian brain will succumb and believe this foolishness, a sort of brain washing if you will. This "trick' is really quite childish and i hope it backfires on them. Maybe Canadians don't want a Coalition... Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Maybe Canadians don't want a Coalition... Has Ignatieff not been clear? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Scotty Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Has Ignatieff not been clear? No, he hasn't been. In fact, it looks like he's dodging a clear answer. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
wyly Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 (edited) No, he hasn't been. In fact, it looks like he's dodging a clear answer. because it's a really really stupid question a similar stupid question to harper would be "how many times will you prorogue parliament should you be returned as PM?"...coalitions only become an issue after an election in no country will you find political parties discussing coalitions before the actual election because the dynamics of the election change the situation from day to day...it's like playing poker and telling your opponents that you promise never to bluff, it's the unknown threat that shapes the game... Edited March 25, 2011 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Maybe Canadians don't want a Coalition... I'm sure every party and those that vote for that party want to govern alone but that in no way means that they wouldn't be willing to accept a coalition...conservatives had no issue with harper when he was in opposition organizing a coalition with the ndp and the BLOC.... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Scotty Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 because it's a really really stupid question...coalitions only become an issue after an election in no country will you find political parties discussing coalitions before the actual Absolutely not true. Even in jurisdictions where coalitions are routine you'll see parties announcing that on no account and under no circumstances will they accept X-party into any such coalition. But regardless, this is not any country. This is Canada, where coalitions are virtually unknown, and where a sizable number of Canadians, including a sizable number of Liberal and potential Liberal voters, don't want to vote for a party which will consider a coalition with the BQ. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 I'm sure every party and those that vote for that party want to govern alone but that in no way means that they wouldn't be willing to accept a coalition... Then Ignatieff will have no problem making a casual statement that yes, in the event his party fails to secure enough votes, it will discuss a coalition with other parties, including the BQ. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
wyly Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Absolutely not true. Even in jurisdictions where coalitions are routine you'll see parties announcing that on no account and under no circumstances will they accept X-party into any such coalition. and then they go ahead and do so anyways when there are no other alternatives to allow them to form a government...as they say politics makes strange bedfellows...But regardless, this is not any country. This is Canada, where coalitions are virtually unknown, and where a sizable number of Canadians, including a sizable number of Liberal and potential Liberal voters, don't want to vote for a party which will consider a coalition with the BQ.coalition unknown? reform and PC's a permanent coalition... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Then Ignatieff will have no problem making a casual statement that yes, in the event his party fails to secure enough votes, it will discuss a coalition with other parties, including the BQ. then harper will have no problem saying that yes he will prorogue parliament as often as he needs to to circumvent democracy...and that should he end up in the opposition he will yet again discuss a forming a coalition with the ndp and the BLOC... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
capricorn Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Maybe Canadians don't want a Coalition... As I mentioned in another post, the present generation of Canadian voters is accustomed to a system where the party who wins the most seats forms government. I do believe Canadians reject a proposed coalition between three parties which would exclude the party that won the most seats. Especially so a coalition that would involve a separatist party could blackmail its partners for expensive goodies in exchange for its continued support. Tories shrug off opposition attacks, surge to 19 point lead--- The Liberal Hail Mary play is based on the assumption that Mr. Ignatieff will out-perform expectations that languish at about the same subterranean level as a Chilean coal mine. Having followed him on his mini-campaign last summer, there’s no doubt he will surprise some people with a level of warmth and self-deprecating humour that doesn’t come across in the House of Commons. But, even if the Ipsos poll does prove frothy, the gap is massive. To overhaul the Conservatives in terms of seats, the Liberal leader would have to possess the charisma and acumen of a JFK — and Mr. Ignatieff is no Jack Kennedy. It’s only if you believe the real goal is to hold the Conservatives to another minority, in order to form a coalition of losers with the NDP and the Bloc Québécois, that the drive to bring down the government starts to make sense. Those Conservative numbers may rise higher still if enough Canadians become convinced that this has been the opposition parties’ plan all along. There’s an element of truth to the line that Canada was formed after the last ice age — after which things slowed down. Canadians are traditionalists and one of those traditions is that the party that is first past the post wins the race. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/03/24/john-ivison-tories-shrug-off-opposition-attacks-surge-to-19-point-lead/ Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Scotty Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 then harper will have no problem saying that yes he will prorogue parliament as often as he needs to to circumvent democracy...and that should he end up in the opposition he will yet again discuss a forming a coalition with the ndp and the BLOC... If someone asks Harper if he will ever prorogue parliament I"m sure he'll say "Perhaps, if circumstances warrant it. It's been done often enough by every government in history, after all." And if someone asks Ignatieff if he will consider a coalition government with the separatists he'll say "There'a a blue door and a red door!" and leave in a huff while everyone scratches their heads in confusion. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 How many times can any Tory politician say the word "Coalition" in one statement??? Hopefully as many times as the Liberals said "secret agenda" in regards to Harper in previous elections. What's wrong Jack? Don't like the taste of your own medicine? Quote
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 A message to Jack and the rest of you sore losers... Quote
scribblet Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 No, he hasn't been. In fact, it looks like he's dodging a clear answer. True, if there really is a coalition of losers, then the voters need to know before the vote, Ignatieff is waffling and will not give a clear answer. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
ToadBrother Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 True, if there really is a coalition of losers, then the voters need to know before the vote, Ignatieff is waffling and will not give a clear answer. And what if the Tories win another minority but get defeated on the Throne Speech? It's quite possible that Iggy could become PM of another minority government and try to do it vote-by-vote like Harper has. Why should Iggy constrain the possibilities? I wouldn't. Would you? Would Stephen Harper? Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 ... and leave in a huff while everyone scratches their heads in confusion. That sounds an awful lot like your guy yesterday, you know, when the questions that were asked weren't to his liking... Maybe Harper needs anger managment classes. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shady Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 And what if the Tories win another minority but get defeated on the Throne Speech? It's quite possible that Iggy could become PM of another minority government and try to do it vote-by-vote like Harper has. Why should Iggy constrain the possibilities? I wouldn't. Would you? Would Stephen Harper? I wouldn't put anything past Count Ignatieff. Did you know he's a product of poor immigrants? Yep, they came to Canada with nothing but the clothes on their backs, and the 1920 equivalent of $2 million dollars. It's the classic Canadian immigrant story! Quote
g_bambino Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 I wouldn't put anything past Count Ignatieff. Did you know he's a product of poor immigrants? Yep, they came to Canada with nothing but the clothes on their backs, and the 1920 equivalent of $2 million dollars. It's the classic Canadian immigrant story! Non sequitur. Quote
g_bambino Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 True, if there really is a coalition of losers, then the voters need to know before the vote Are you going to lend them your crystal ball? Because nobody will ever know if a coalition is even possible until after the election. Quote
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