Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Author Report Posted March 12, 2011 Nobody here has said that x3 Everytime I bring it up everyone rails against me. So I think many have said that otherwise people would agree with me yet they do not. If the yare not with me, they're against me...simple. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Everytime I bring it up everyone rails against me. So I think many have said that otherwise people would agree with me yet they do not. If the yare not with me, they're against me...simple. Oh believe me, I am against you. And as long as you keep on with your bigoted rhetoric, foundness for dictators, demonizing the many for the actions and thoughts of the few, and making false claims that peole here are defending radical Islam, I will be against you. Get used to it. And we still both know that nobody here has said there are no Muslim terrorists, nobody here has said that this is just a pipe dream, and nobody here has said we should do nothing. Edited March 12, 2011 by CANADIEN Quote
Scotty Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Really ? He murdered people... or are you referring to battles he fought ? He executed a large number of people, sometimes simply because they refused to embrace his faith, sometimes because they were personal enemies, or had mocked him years earlier. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 You can't prove that. I have tried to get others to prove it here and all I get back is posts of atrocities that have taken place here or there: that is anecdotal. You don't think ten thousand terrorist incidents by Muslims in the past ten years might be considered more than anecdotal? Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
DogOnPorch Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 He executed a large number of people, sometimes simply because they refused to embrace his faith, sometimes because they were personal enemies, or had mocked him years earlier. Yup...a swell guy...and safe around the young kids...especially little girls. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 You don't think ten thousand terrorist incidents by Muslims in the past ten years might be considered more than anecdotal? See this post. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Scotty Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Wait a minute I thought the former's prophet was also the very same God that horribly smote He only knows how many human lives for doing things like...masturbating or not worshipping Him. There are a lot of things in the old testament which are pretty brutal. It's considered a sort of allegorical history of the world, and written, clearly, at a time where brutality wasn't considered to be particularly shocking. Some considered it a sort of 'prequel' to Jesus's story. However, most Christian denominations place emphasis on the new testament. Both of them have been re-interpreted at regular intervals in line with progressing notions of society. The thing about the Koran is it hasn't been reinterpreted in centuries, and the last formal interpretation was by people who, of course, were pretty backward and barbaric by modern thinking. That interpretation was locked in, and no others were ever permitted. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Really? Not in my neighbourhood. Heck not even in my city, province or even country. A good number of Muslims obey the law and go about their business like a goodly number of Christians do. Why, they are like that is the US too. There seems to be a certain tipping point with regard to the size of a Muslim population. Once it reaches the numbers where the number of Muslims have a certain weight in society they then feel more able to make demands and push their religious agenda with more determination. Canada and the US have not yet reached that point. If you really want to look at sheer violence and terror, look no further than Europe during the 20th century. All those Christian countries committing unspeakable acts upon one another to the tune of millions upon millions dead. All nations had their brutal history. That includes the Muslim ones. You are simply not familiar with that history. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
scribblet Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Cybercoma is the thought police now I guess. What law have I broken? I'm sure they'll be busting down my door soon then. I'm only stating a fact. Radical Muslims have tried to kill Canadians before(Toronto 18) you don't think they'll try again? Meanwhile the left insists that all Muslims are good people and that Radical Islam in Canada is right wing pipe dream. The left insists we do nothing because to speak against Islam is hate speech. Political correctness gone awry. One has to be careful as we are limited to what we may say because of this type of thing. It reminds me of a book I read years ago called Children of the Arbat, where friends and neighbours listened in to conversations then reported them - a truly paranoid atmosphere where differences of opinion, or even humour are misconstrued and reported as a threat to the State, children denouncing their parents and the fanaticism. Denouncing opinions as hate speech while accusing Christians of being worse is simply a deflection from the issue and a means of stifling opinion. However, in today's atmosphere of political correctness remember the 'politburo' is watching you LOL Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 One has to be careful as we are limited to what we may say because of this type of thing. It reminds me of a book I read years ago called Children of the Arbat, where friends and neighbours listened in to conversations then reported them - a truly paranoid atmosphere where differences of opinion, or even humour are misconstrued and reported as a threat to the State, children denouncing their parents and the fanaticism. Denouncing opinions as hate speech while accusing Christians of being worse is simply a deflection from the issue and a means of stifling opinion. However, in today's atmosphere of political correctness remember the 'politburo' is watching you LOL Saying that anybody here has claimed that Christians are worse than Muslim is a lie. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 All nations had their brutal history. That includes the Muslim ones. You are simply not familiar with that history. Historically since about Marathon, East has always been at odds with West...regardless of the religion...but, not to say religion isn't a big factor. The history of the 'East' is generally obscure to general public. Who generally can describe the Battle of Lepanto without resorting to Wikipedia? Battle of the Blackbirds? Some, I'm sure...but they aren't exactly 'household' historical events like say...Waterloo. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted March 13, 2011 Report Posted March 13, 2011 (edited) There are a lot of things in the old testament which are pretty brutal. It's considered a sort of allegorical history of the world, and written, clearly, at a time where brutality wasn't considered to be particularly shocking. Some considered it a sort of 'prequel' to Jesus's story. However, most Christian denominations place emphasis on the new testament. Both of them have been re-interpreted at regular intervals in line with progressing notions of society. The thing about the Koran is it hasn't been reinterpreted in centuries, and the last formal interpretation was by people who, of course, were pretty backward and barbaric by modern thinking. That interpretation was locked in, and no others were ever permitted. On the contrary, there are radically different interpretations of the Koran extant as we speak. Some of them place an emphasis on peace, some seem to wallow happily in brutality. Edited March 13, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
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