GWiz Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Kenney fundraising letter breaks rules: NDP - Immigration minister must resign over office letter outlining campaign to target ethnic voters: Layton Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Jason Kenney answers a question during question period in the House of Commons on Parliament Hill, Feb. 15, 2011. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press) Supporting Story ContentStory Sharing ToolsShare with Add ThisPrint this storyE-mail this story.Related External Links Kenney's office letter to Conservative MPs Letter and 'Breaking Through' document (Note:CBC does not endorse and is not responsible for the content of external links.) End of Supporting Story ContentBack to accessibility links Beginning of Story ContentImmigration Minister Jason Kenney is being called on to resign by the NDP after his office sent out a letter to Conservative MPs asking for fundraising help to mount an ad campaign aimed at bolstering support among ethnic communities. According to documents obtained by the NDP Thursday and released to the media, the Conservatives have hatched a media strategy that would specifically target South Asian and Chinese communities in the Greater Toronto Area. The advertising plan is branded "Breaking Through: Building the Conservative Brand" and details of it were sent along with a letter on Kenney's letterhead seeking funds to support it. The materials ended up in the hands of NDP Linda Duncan but were more likely intended for Conservative MP John Duncan. The NDP is accusing Kenney of abusing his privileges as an MP and minister to conduct partisan fundraising with his office staff and resources. Beyond using his own letterhead for fundraising purposes for the Conservative party, the documents show how keen the Tories are to lock in more of the ethnic vote in the next election. The NDP is adamant that Kenney lose his job over the matter. "In fact, this is resignation material right here. This might be the death rattle of Jason Kenney as the minister of immigration. It certainly should be," the NDP's Pat Martin told reporters following question period when the issue was first raised by the party's leader Jack Layton. Kenney has been leading the Conservatives' efforts over the last five years to improve his party's fortunes among ethnic voters. "There are lots of ethnic voters," the media plan says. "There will be quite a few more soon. They live where we need to win." It notes that, "If GTA South Asians were to form a city, it would be the third largest city in the country." - Gotta love that Ethnic Vote, eh... ps - FYI - MOST ethnic minorities don't participate in polls... Just sayin' "Be not deceived, evil companions corrupt good morals." - 1 corinthians 15:33 Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
jbg Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The "Oda firestorm" didn't work so this next? Wash, rinse, repeat. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shakeyhands Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The "Oda firestorm" didn't work so this next? Wash, rinse, repeat. Oda isn't done. and if they would stop doing things to get dirty.... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
ToadBrother Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The "Oda firestorm" didn't work so this next? I thought we were waiting for the Speaker's ruling. Or is the Speaker of the House the next thing Tories want to make insignificant? Wash, rinse, repeat. That's the Opposition's job. Quote
Wild Bill Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 It's not likely that Kenney personally handles all the clerical work in his office. Why have a dog and bark, too? Obviously, some clerk type screwed up and sent things out on his MP's letterhead. Big whoop! A mistake like that is grounds for capital punishment! Has everybody lost all perspective? This sort of thing is a yawner. It's a yawner when it happens on the Tory side and it WAS a yawner when similar things happened on the Opposition side over the years! Petty clerical mistakes will always happen. We are dealing with human beings and no worker is perfect. The way some people are going on in this thread you'd think that Kenney deliberately used his letterhead, fully expecting that no one would ever notice and would stand to gain millions of both dollars and votes by doing so! Give me a break! This isn't a scandal. It's just another snorefest! I'm going back to sleep... Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
GWiz Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Posted March 4, 2011 It's not likely that Kenney personally handles all the clerical work in his office. Why have a dog and bark, too? Obviously, some clerk type screwed up and sent things out on his MP's letterhead. Big whoop! A mistake like that is grounds for capital punishment! Has everybody lost all perspective? This sort of thing is a yawner. It's a yawner when it happens on the Tory side and it WAS a yawner when similar things happened on the Opposition side over the years! Petty clerical mistakes will always happen. We are dealing with human beings and no worker is perfect. The way some people are going on in this thread you'd think that Kenney deliberately used his letterhead, fully expecting that no one would ever notice and would stand to gain millions of both dollars and votes by doing so! Give me a break! This isn't a scandal. It's just another snorefest! I'm going back to sleep... Awww, I wonder what you'd say if it had been a LIBERAL that screwed up... If a Government Minister has incompetent, untrained, staff doing PARTY BUSINESS from an MP's office, that itself is against parliamentary rules BECAUSE an MP's office STAFF is paid for by you and me as TAX PAYERS and therefore should ONLY do "Government Work" NOT Party Work... Get it now Bill? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
DrGreenthumb Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Awww, I wonder what you'd say if it had been a LIBERAL that screwed up... If a Government Minister has incompetent, untrained, staff doing PARTY BUSINESS from an MP's office, that itself is against parliamentary rules BECAUSE an MP's office STAFF is paid for by you and me as TAX PAYERS and therefore should ONLY do "Government Work" NOT Party Work... Get it now Bill? How long til they blame a junior staffer who will be fired or resign 3.....2......1..... Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Political parties in Canada target ethnic groups. This is a newsflash for everyone here at MLW? The Liberals started doing this back in the 1970's. I guess some of you didn't know. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Evening Star Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) The staffer has already resigned: The employee responsible for sending out the letter resigned later Thursday, said Kenney spokesman Alykhan Velshi. The employee was not named. (from the Globe article in the OP) And the targeting of 'ethnic communities' was not what anyone was concerned about. Edited March 4, 2011 by Evening Star Quote
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Political parties in Canada target ethnic groups. This is a newsflash for everyone here at MLW? The Liberals started doing this back in the 1970's. I guess some of you didn't know.No, you obtuse buffoon! What's a newsflash is that the Government of Canada is using its staff and taxpayers' money to promote the Conservative Party.As to it being a non-issue, it's not about a staffer messing up and using letterhead (oops!). That would be an understandable mistake. Why is a staffer sending out a letter to raise funds for the Conservative Party in the first place? Is that the role of that office of the government? Absolutely not! Quote
Shakeyhands Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Wasn't it the "Harper government" (tee hee) that said the Minister would answer and be responsible for what their staffers did so that the opposition couldn't question deal with them? Wouldn't this fall in to this catagory? What about poor Helena? Isn't this the same sort of deal? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Topaz Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The Star today has the story and the resignation of the staffer. At least now we know, how the Tories are thinking and the need to raise more money for a party, that's says it has lots of money. So Tory supporters you know why and where the donation will go when they ask for more money. Get your wallets and chequebooks ready. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/948600--kenney-staffer-resigns-after-fundraising-rules-broken Quote
scribblet Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 If the opposition had anything worthwhile to say or present as options to the voters, they wouldn't have to keep manufacturing a crisis :lol: That foaming at the mouth bit they are good at doesn't help either Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Wild Bill Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Awww, I wonder what you'd say if it had been a LIBERAL that screwed up... If a Government Minister has incompetent, untrained, staff doing PARTY BUSINESS from an MP's office, that itself is against parliamentary rules BECAUSE an MP's office STAFF is paid for by you and me as TAX PAYERS and therefore should ONLY do "Government Work" NOT Party Work... Get it now Bill? Better than you! You obviously didn't even read all my post! "It's a yawner when it happens on the Tory side and it WAS a yawner when similar things happened on the Opposition side over the years!" That's what I said if it had been a LIBERAL that screwed up... Get it now, Whizzer? This sort of thing has happened to all parties many times over the years. Some of us seem to only pay attention when it strikes in their "Satan's Party" opponents. Using the wrong letterhead is hardly a capital crime and certainly not a sophisticated, subtle method of committing a crime. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
madmax Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The "Oda firestorm" didn't work so this next? Wash, rinse, repeat. What else can u do with the unwashed. Quote
madmax Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 It's not likely that Kenney personally handles all the clerical work in his office. Why have a dog and bark, too? Obviously, some clerk type screwed up and sent things out on his MP's letterhead. Big whoop! Go back to Sleep Bill, thats what bad goverments thrive on. Quote
scribblet Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 The staffer who sent it out has resigned, not that it will stop the Liberal heads from exploding all over QP Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jerry J. Fortin Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 One scandal after the next, thats what we can look forward to for the next little while. Election or not, this will drag on. Quote
scribblet Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Of course it will drag on as the opposition has nothing else going for it, no alternatives or anything to offer the voters. All they can do is keep manufacturing that outrage and hope some mud sticks at election times. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jerry J. Fortin Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Of course it will drag on as the opposition has nothing else going for it, no alternatives or anything to offer the voters. All they can do is keep manufacturing that outrage and hope some mud sticks at election times. Yeah it IS the way the game is played. Wouldn't you just love to see an opposition actually propose alternative strategies and policies? Quote
GWiz Posted March 4, 2011 Author Report Posted March 4, 2011 Better than you! You obviously didn't even read all my post! "It's a yawner when it happens on the Tory side and it WAS a yawner when similar things happened on the Opposition side over the years!" That's what I said if it had been a LIBERAL that screwed up... Get it now, Whizzer? This sort of thing has happened to all parties many times over the years. Some of us seem to only pay attention when it strikes in their "Satan's Party" opponents. Using the wrong letterhead is hardly a capital crime and certainly not a sophisticated, subtle method of committing a crime. We, the tax payers of Canada, are paying for the operation of all MP's offices and staff... So they work for us, doing the GOVERNMENT'S business and NOT party business... PARTY fund raising out of a GOVERNMENT office, a MINISTER'S office at that, on GOVERNMENT letterhead is a whole lot more than an ooops... NO, you are TOTALLY WRONG, it is NOT any sort of a "everybody does it" kind of thing... If you dispute it, prove it... You are simply a COMMITED HARPER SHILL and nothing more for whom the CONS can do no wrong... You are the worst sort of Canadian, a PURE PARTY HACK, that cares much more about a party than Canada... SHAME on you... :angry: Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
scribblet Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 ===== You are the worst sort of Canadian, a PURE PARTY HACK, that cares much more about a party than Canada... SHAME on you... :angry: Your head must be really exploding, you don't seem to accept that people have different opinions than your own I suppose you are not liberal shill or a PURE LIBERAL PARTY HACK though Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 Yeah it IS the way the game is played. Wouldn't you just love to see an opposition actually propose alternative strategies and policies? Yes, it would be a change indeed... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Wild Bill Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 We, the tax payers of Canada, are paying for the operation of all MP's offices and staff... So they work for us, doing the GOVERNMENT'S business and NOT party business... PARTY fund raising out of a GOVERNMENT office, a MINISTER'S office at that, on GOVERNMENT letterhead is a whole lot more than an ooops... NO, you are TOTALLY WRONG, it is NOT any sort of a "everybody does it" kind of thing... If you dispute it, prove it... You are simply a COMMITED HARPER SHILL and nothing more for whom the CONS can do no wrong... You are the worst sort of Canadian, a PURE PARTY HACK, that cares much more about a party than Canada... SHAME on you... :angry: Why do I bother? Why would anyone bother? It's pretty obvious that until the next election is over you're going to seize and stretch anything you can to support the Libs and knock anybody who doesn't agree with you. You're rabidly seeking any and all parades and will make any disagreeing poster into your straw man. That attitude is part of what drove me away from the Liberals in the first place, all those years ago. I'll just put you back on 'ignore'. We'll see what happens after the election. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
cybercoma Posted March 4, 2011 Report Posted March 4, 2011 If the opposition had anything worthwhile to say or present as options to the voters, they wouldn't have to keep manufacturing a crisis :lol: That foaming at the mouth bit they are good at doesn't help either I don't follow. A crisis isn't being manufactured here. It's not a crisis. However, it is condemnable. It's actually quite telling that they still receive the support that the do after all of these shameful acts. Canadians either don't know or don't care or both. Quote
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