GWiz Posted February 28, 2011 Report Posted February 28, 2011 The Canadian economy is rebounding well and is well ahead of many others around the world. Canada is the envy of the economic world. We must rebuild our national values because as it is now Canada stands for nothing, thanks Trudeau. PM Harper is working hard to restore our institutions after being destroyed by the Liberals. If people would stop complaining and start sporting our leader we'd be further ahead then we are already. It's time to rally around Pm Harper and be happy we have him. Without him, t here'd be no united right and Dion would be our PM. Without Harper the Liberals would still be in power after the Adscam fiasco. My friend, sorry for laughing at you, just be glad you're not a fish because you've not only swallowed Harpers PROPAGANDA hook, line, and sinker but you've also been fried in batter and served up for dinner... Even Harper has CHANGED his advertising from "best of the G7" to ahead of the United States (tied for 53rd place vs the USA tied in 54th place http://www.photius.com/rankings/economy/gdp_real_growth_rate_2011_0.html )... Should make you think, eh... You can blame the Liberals all you want because it won't alter the TRUTH one little bit... If it hadn't been for the LIBERAL Governments of the past putting Canada on a sound ecomomic footing we would be TOAST on the world economic ladder; inspite of our tremendous natural wealth which has NOTHING to do with ANY party... Remember - "stupid is as stupid does" - Forrest Gump - when the next election comes around and just maybe you'll wake up by then and find out just how LUCKY Canada has been to have LIBERAL Governments because each TIME we had a Conservative one things for Canadians got a whole lot WORSE... Read my sig line, it says it all... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Saipan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 And as Kevin O'Leary said economy looks great now, our dollar may be US$1.10 by the end of year. International investors flock to Canada. Looong way from Chretien's 62 cent "dollar" Quote
Scotty Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 If it hadn't been for the LIBERAL Governments of the past putting Canada on a sound ecomomic footing we would be TOAST on the world economic ladder; inspite of our tremendous natural wealth which has NOTHING to do with ANY party... Were there Liberal governments of which I'm not aware? Perhaps long before I was born? The only ones I'm familiar with, you see, were Trudeau's - he who doubled the federal budget during his first term in office, then, just to prove he could, he doubled it again in his second term... He who took a balanced budget with an accumulated debt load in the MILLIONS and through a series of huge budget deficits ran it into it up to a hundred billion dollars just in time for a big recession with double digit interest rates and inflation to explode it. Now Chretien's Liberals were more fiscally responsible. I will grant you that. Then, again, it's usually pretty easy to balance the budget when you're in the middle of boom times, and when the GST is pouring money into government coffers. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
GWiz Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 And as Kevin O'Leary said economy looks great now, our dollar may be US$1.10 by the end of year. International investors flock to Canada. Looong way from Chretien's 62 cent "dollar" It'd have been at $1.15 long ago if Harper & Co weren't doing everything they can to keep it down... btw, since I was earning US dollars at the TIME I really didn't mind MORONey Dollars aka "the Northern Peso"... Chretien indeed... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Were there Liberal governments of which I'm not aware? Perhaps long before I was born? The only ones I'm familiar with, you see, were Trudeau's - he who doubled the federal budget during his first term in office, then, just to prove he could, he doubled it again in his second term... He who took a balanced budget with an accumulated debt load in the MILLIONS and through a series of huge budget deficits ran it into it up to a hundred billion dollars just in time for a big recession with double digit interest rates and inflation to explode it. Now Chretien's Liberals were more fiscally responsible. I will grant you that. Then, again, it's usually pretty easy to balance the budget when you're in the middle of boom times, and when the GST is pouring money into government coffers. You have your "history"; I have the TRUTH... To each their own... Remember, the LATEST $56 BILLION deficit isn't Trudeau's nor any "liberal's" it's ALL YOURS... AND so is every borrowed dollar spent on summits, planes, tax cuts, and the "other" wasted money too, including a 2% reduction in YOUR beloved GST, and squadering the LIBERAL'S "rainy day fund" to boot... Now the big question; what did YOU gain from it? Cause YOU must have gained something since YOU so ardently support it, right? So you'll pardon me for laughing, eh... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Saipan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 I really didn't mind MORONey Dollars aka "the Northern Peso"... You're confusing it with Chretien's Peso. Quote
Saipan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Remember, the LATEST $56 BILLION deficit isn't Trudeau's nor any "liberal's" it's ALL YOURS... 1) Nearly 20 billion is McGuinty's debt. 2) About 40 billion was yearly interest alone on Liberal debt then. Quote
Smallc Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Now Chretien's Liberals were more fiscally responsible. I will grant you that. Then, again, it's usually pretty easy to balance the budget when you're in the middle of boom times, and when the GST is pouring money into government coffers. And yet, the Liberals gave the two largest tax cuts in Canadian history during that time. Quote
jbg Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 And yet, the Liberals gave the two largest tax cuts in Canadian history during that time. How much in the way of expenses did they download to the provinces and the localities during this period? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 How much in the way of expenses did they download to the provinces and the localities during this period? That really doesn't matter. Any fiscal conservative should be in favour of the shrinking of government. Quote
jbg Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 That really doesn't matter. Any fiscal conservative should be in favour of the shrinking of government. Sure it does. It's not a real shrinking of government. It's shifting it from a branch that collects taxes primarily based upon income and ability to pay to one that gets their taxes in more regressive means. Those policies are beyond conservative; they're downright reactionary. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Smallc Posted March 1, 2011 Report Posted March 1, 2011 Sure it does. It's not a real shrinking of government. It's shifting it from a branch that collects taxes primarily based upon income and ability to pay to one that gets their taxes in more regressive means. I'm not sure what you're talking about. The provinces and Ottawa collect taxes in the same way and Ottawa can't download directly to municipalities...and there's no reason that the provinces had to grow just because Ottawa shrunk. Quote
William Ashley Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure what you're talking about. The provinces and Ottawa collect taxes in the same way and Ottawa can't download directly to municipalities...and there's no reason that the provinces had to grow just because Ottawa shrunk. This is true the provinces set their own tax policies - the only limits are that they can't tax other provinces, directly. It isn't the role of the federal government to fund the provinces the contrary is actually more true. Transfers are a scheme to deprive the wealthy provinces of their wealth on an unequal basis. While I do support national coordination - I think it should be for a payfor - such as via infrastructure projects where investors get a share of the proceeds or charity based where people give because the have not province can't do it on their own and people feel sorry for them. Or the net benefit is some how in Canada interests.. TRANSFERS ARE AN EVIL SCHEME! PAY FOR and public stock in crown corporations IS THE WAY TO GO on interprovincial wealth transfers! For instance a public crown corp that sells shares could be known at the interprovincial charity investment fund crown corporation . Edited March 1, 2011 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
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