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The identity of the immigrants in the French suburbs is well known. I don't know why every post must be laden with URL's to make an obvious, common-sense point. Unless people want to dodge the obvious by making the simple complex.

Well, the articles provided as evidence provide examples of two different groups so what exactly is obvious here ?

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Well, the articles provided as evidence provide examples of two different groups so what exactly is obvious here ?

pssst, Michael, the OBVIOUS thing is certain people's AGENDA... Oooops, spoiler alert, sorry...

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I came across this by chance. I think it's interesting in its assessment of which immigrants do better in Canada and which ones do worse.

One would think that if immigration was designed with Canada's needs in mind, we would be attempting to bring in more immigrants from the top of the cart, and far fewer from the bottom, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Recent Immigrants from Low Income Countries doing worse

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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One would think that if immigration was designed with Canada's needs in mind, we would be attempting to bring in more immigrants from the top of the cart, and far fewer from the bottom, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

There's also the question of supply and demand of people, though. How many from the UK want to come here versus, say, Pakistan.

Interesting numbers there.

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There's also the question of supply and demand of people, though. How many from the UK want to come here versus, say, Pakistan.

Interesting numbers there.

The Post had an item a couple of days back about the high interest of young, educated Irishmen in coming to Canada due to the bad economic situation there. I'm willing to bet, given the poor economic situation in other parts of Europe, that we could get an awful lot of immigrants if we put any effort into it. That won't happen, however, because it would be seen as racist. China, for example, continues to be our number one immigrant source country despite how poorly immigrants from China fare. Pakistan is another major source country, despite, again, their immigrants faring comparatively poorly.

Another interesting note in the economic sites I've found, including from Stats Canada, is that immigrants with university degrees are not faring well in Canada. The poverty and unemployment rate among immigrants with degrees is far higher than for native born Canadians. And only a fraction of those immigrants wind up working int he jobs they're supposedly educated in.

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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The Post had an item a couple of days back about the high interest of young, educated Irishmen in coming to Canada due to the bad economic situation there. I'm willing to bet, given the poor economic situation in other parts of Europe, that we could get an awful lot of immigrants if we put any effort into it. That won't happen, however, because it would be seen as racist. China, for example, continues to be our number one immigrant source country despite how poorly immigrants from China fare. Pakistan is another major source country, despite, again, their immigrants faring comparatively poorly.

Another interesting note in the economic sites I've found, including from Stats Canada, is that immigrants with university degrees are not faring well in Canada. The poverty and unemployment rate among immigrants with degrees is far higher than for native born Canadians. And only a fraction of those immigrants wind up working int he jobs they're supposedly educated in.

I'm learning a lot here, but you owe us a whole pile of links for this.

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I'm learning a lot here, but you owe us a whole pile of links for this.

They were posted in the other immigrant/integration thread a short time back. Should I post them here as well?

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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