Left wing media bias or media just have mental-health issues?

[Michael Hardner]

So you are adding climate to the list of love-hate America attributes. The "Canadian States" model is flawed in this respect as well.

I know that now, but it's too late. I was told that New England and upper New York State weren't addictive. I now know that was a horrible lie.

[Evening Star]

Thats not what Iv found. I notice a huge different between Canadian states like Oregon, and Jesus Land states like Utah, or Kentucky.

A person from Newyork will experience the exact same culture shock if they visit a southern ex-slave state that a Canadian will.

I don't deny these things at all. I guess what I'm saying is more that I was initially expecting to see virtually no difference between urban ON and urban NY or MI; To my eyes, there still are noticeable and significant differences that seemed more striking because of the tiny geographic distance and the similar cultural diet... The demographics and associated racial politics even in non-"ex-slave states", characters of urban vs suburban regions, things like attitudes towards what the place of a labour union should be (even among pro-union people), the role of the government in the cultural sector, a wide range of things in the academic sphere (all the way from the grading systems to the relative rates of pay for sessional instructors to little things like e.g. the way that my American friends are blown away to hear that Canadian students often address teachers and professors as "Sir"). I guess it depends what things you're looking at... Even with something like accent and dialect: The difference between upstate NY and West Virginia is massive, no doubt, but the difference between Detroit and Windsor or Toronto and Buffalo is still pretty striking imo considering how close they are. ( http://accent.gmu.edu/searchsaa.php?function=detail&speakerid=114 sounds typical of upstate NY to me; This is pretty close to how I speak and seems noticeably different: http://accent.gmu.edu/searchsaa.php?function=detail&speakerid=541 . This is from Windsor fwiw: http://accent.gmu.edu/searchsaa.php?function=detail&speakerid=407 .) (This may be largely a function of the Great Lakes/Midwest Northern cities vowel shift though... The difference between Toronto and Denver or San Francisco doesn't seem as sharp oddly... And the difference between Toronto and small-town Nova Scotia might be great as well...)

I've deviated pretty far from the original article. I guess all I'm saying is that, while Northern or East Coast states do seem very different from Southern states, they also don't really seem 'Canadian' to me. Or, at the least, the difference is more than I expected it to be?

Edited January 17, 2011 by Evening Star

[bush_cheney2004]

...I've deviated pretty far from the original article. I guess all I'm saying is that, while Northern or East Coast states do seem very different from Southern states, they also don't really seem 'Canadian' to me. Or, at the least, the difference is more than I expected it to be?

I agree...even when it comes to "slave provinces" compared to "slave states".

[Evening Star]

Yeah, that was poor terminology on my part so I've modified it. I only meant to refer to dre's comment on "ex-slave states".

[eyeball]

I just never realized how overwhelming the influence was/is. Frankly....I would find it to be quite suffocating. No wonder there is such lingering resentment by some Canadians.

Try comparing it to the amount of influence the USSR had on your people. I mean here's something that's dead and gone yet in the minds of millions and millions of Americans there are still Reds lurking around every corner and hiding under every bed.

Your nation's resentment is barrelling ahead like the Devil itself was still hot on your heels.

[bush_cheney2004]

Try comparing it to the amount of influence the USSR had on your people. I mean here's something that's dead and gone yet in the minds of millions and millions of Americans there are still Reds lurking around every corner and hiding under every bed.

"My people" do not obsess on former Soviet or Russian news media, health care system, economy, elections, sports, music, motion pictures, broadcast and cable television production, transportation, gun control, abortion laws, "patriotism", Russian content rules, political parties, ruble valuation, etc., etc.

The USSR ceased to exist...but when it did, I could buy Soviet kit from Canadian importers.

Your nation's resentment is barrelling ahead like the Devil itself was still hot on your heels.

No..."my nation" is the Devil that you can't take your eyes off of.