Before Moving To Canada....

[dizzy]

Yup. It would be stupid to issue broad generalizations against a whole race of people based on stupid stereotypes like "African Americans are inarticulate" etc. Almost as stupid as taking one Americans exerience in Canada and applying to a country of 30 million people.

Canadians that buy into these sorts of over generalizations about Americans are dullards that dont know how to think objectively or honestly. The exact same kind of people that would form an opinion about Canadas level of tolerance and civility based on one Americans bad experience here.

I think BC is bright enough to see the point. He's also aware of the implications of accepting it.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Does it provide you with any thoughts wrt how an unnecessarily flattering perspective of another group of people can be just as limiting as a negative one?

No...the op-ed you linked is part of a continuing US narrative that predates the actual event. As I have already stated, patronizing attitudes can be more of a problem than outright insults. Realizing it is not your purpose to delve into the nuts and bolts of "inarticulate blacks" (American or otherwise), neither approach is limiting except to the holder(s) of such views. In this example, Barack Obama still became President of the United States.

[bloodyminded]

My shorthand for this sentiment is that Canada can handle Africans, but not "uppity" Blacks.

As if you even believe what you're saying, Mr. Troll-y.

And now we can add "politically-correct whiner" to the already monumentally long list of character flaws. Good work.

Edited December 15, 2010 by bloodyminded

[bush_cheney2004]

As if you even believe what you're saying, Mr. Troll-y.

And now we can add "politically-correct whiner" to the already monumentally long list of character flaws. Good work.

Thank you....obviously you are attracted to my "whining"....like moths to a flame.

[bloodyminded]

Thank you....obviously you are attracted to my "whining"....like moths to a flame.

Like entomologists to a uniquely ugly insect.

[bush_cheney2004]

Like entomologists to a uniquely ugly insect.

Don't forget to challenge the bug's dainty manhood....it is your way.

[bloodyminded]

Don't forget to challenge the bug's dainty manhood....it is your way.

Sure, if that helps you, sport.

[bush_cheney2004]

Sure, if that helps you, sport.

That's why I am here...to help you. You're welcome.

[bloodyminded]

That's why I am here...to help you. You're welcome.

You misread "you" as "me." Not a common error. But it's never too late to educate yourself on the language. Hopefully, you've already learned pronouns, as I helpfully suggested to you earlier.

[bush_cheney2004]

You misread "you" as "me." Not a common error. But it's never too late to educate yourself on the language. Hopefully, you've already learned pronouns, as I helpfully suggested to you earlier.

18,397

[bloodyminded]

18,397

The dollar amount of your wasted tuition?

You're being too conservative with the number.

[bush_cheney2004]

The dollar amount of your wasted tuition?

You're being too conservative with the number.

My tuition was $0.00...full ride scholarship. They knew I was a smart ass too.

[bloodyminded]

My tuition was $0.00...full ride scholarship. They knew I was a smart ass too.

And you didn't even learn pronouns, adjectives, or agreement?

[bush_cheney2004]

And you didn't even learn pronouns, adjectives, or agreement?

No...I learned to hate commies like you!

[bloodyminded]

No...I learned to hate commies like you!

You didn't learn what communism was, either.

[bush_cheney2004]

You didn't learn what communism was, either.

Not a problem...you are the expert on that.

[bloodyminded]

Not a problem...you are the expert on that.

On what?

[bush_cheney2004]

On what?

Sorry, no questions allowed in this meaningless harassment format.

[bloodyminded]

Sorry, no questions allowed in this meaningless harassment format.

Awesome.

[bush_cheney2004]

Awesome.

Does this mean your tantrum is over?

[bloodyminded]

Does this mean your tantrum is over?

There was no tantrum. So critical reading is another aspect of your education that failed you. They're adding up.

[bush_cheney2004]

There was no tantrum. So critical reading is another aspect of your education that failed you. They're adding up.

...and that's OK. Your concern is noted...but I'm doing fine.

[dizzy]

This group is too diverse for such alliances...sniping is common. My membership as a "yank" and unapologetic style irks some who would prefer an open mike without interference from any American, let alone an arrogant bastard such as I.

I cant speak for others but I don't think it's because you're a "yank". Being from wisconsin or wherever is not intimidating to a torontonian or montrealer, etc.

Quaint notions....not a primary objective. As stated earlier, I was more intrigued by the way you parsed "blacks" from "Americans", when clearly that is an imprecise way to relate the stereotype. The rest follows...

Debate without honesty is just a series of liars, lying to each other.

I didn't parse black from american anymore than you did québecois from 'rest of canada'.

I hope so...black is black...even in Canada!

I could extend to say that ethnic difference carries value, but the historical 'nuance' of slavery does feed into the american anxiety differently than it does here. Africville is evidence that things sucked here for blacks, too, but differently than it did for americans.

Keep it light...save some powder for the next volley.

reference my second point above. And Andrew Lang.