The Beginning of the Green Agenda

[lukin]

People need to do extensive research and realize who the puppet master behind the human caused global warming panic really is. It'll take many months if not years of extensive research to understand how this panic all came to be.

All a person has to do is follow the money to realize where the green agenda gained its strength by playing on the gullible emotions of the non-thinking public. Look how much effort is being put forth to raise a whole generation of children into believing that the world is"doomed" if we don't cut back our carbon emissions. Public schools are doing a great job of indoctrinating young minds.

As for where this started; start and end with billionaire Maurice Strong. Read, read, and read more and you will understand how the world, with the exception of a few, has been duped.

Edited November 6, 2010 by lukin

[Oleg Bach]

The only people that are truely green are the ones that know and are totally comforable with nature - including bugs that bit - sea weed that seems to want to tangle and drown you - eating every fish that you catch - having mud between your toes as you wandered through the marsh as a child - for hours on end ...and being a person who has plants older than his children ... Environmentalists have no clue how to love and co-exist in nature - In this artifical world of urban living - most people fear - hate - loath and detest nature....I am in love with the natural world - WHEN I as a kid would dive down thirty feet into a cool clear lake and drink the water as I swam ...and did not fear that the water would drown me - All I can say is that art - artifice - artifical bullshit that is environmental...is as phoney as it comes...

By the way - as a boy I rescued an injured raven...and raised the bird - back to health and flight - all crows love me to this day - word must have got out in the natural world that I was a natural man - unlike the polished and paved environmentalist greens --------who dash home from the country at the sight of a mosquito..to hide in their condo and talk big while sipping wine - about environmental issues - they know nothing about and WILL NEVER KNOW..THE REAL EARTH OR WORLD.

[lukin]

The only people that are truely green are the ones that know and are totally comforable with nature - including bugs that bit - sea weed that seems to want to tangle and drown you - eating every fish that you catch - having mud between your toes as you wandered through the marsh as a child - for hours on end ...and being a person who has plants older than his children ... Environmentalists have no clue how to love and co-exist in nature - In this artifical world of urban living - most people fear - hate - loath and detest nature....I am in love with the natural world - WHEN I as a kid would dive down thirty feet into a cool clear lake and drink the water as I swam ...and did not fear that the water would drown me - All I can say is that art - artifice - artifical bullshit that is environmental...is as phoney as it comes...

By the way - as a boy I rescued an injured raven...and raised the bird - back to health and flight - all crows love me to this day - word must have got out in the natural world that I was a natural man - unlike the polished and paved environmentalist greens --------who dash home from the country at the sight of a mosquito..to hide in their condo and talk big while sipping wine - about environmental issues - they know nothing about and WILL NEVER KNOW..THE REAL EARTH OR WORLD.

What do you know about Maurice Strong, Oleg?

[bloodyminded]

People need to do extensive research and realize who the puppet master behind the human caused global warming panic really is. It'll take many months if not years of extensive research to understand how this panic all came to be.

All a person has to do is follow the money to realize where the green agenda gained its strength by playing on the gullible emotions of the non-thinking public. Look how much effort is being put forth to raise a whole generation of children into believing that the world is"doomed" if we don't cut back our carbon emissions. Public schools are doing a great job of indoctrinating young minds.

As for where this started; start and end with billionaire Maurice Strong. Read, read, and read more and you will understand how the world, with the exception of a few, has been duped.

So...it could "take...years of extensive research to understand how this panic all came to be"; and yet "all a person has to do is follow the money"; and of course, you, personally, have overcome the great obstacles, which normally would demand years of extensive research, and now you "understand how the world, with the exception of a few [oil compnaies, a few right-wing political leaders, and yourself] has been duped."

I think someone should do an extensive study on the levels of self-aggrandizing narcissism present in the wilder conspiracy theories.

Edited November 6, 2010 by bloodyminded

[Michael Hardner]

Did it all start with Svante Arrhenius?

[lukin]

So...it could "take...years of extensive research to understand how this panic all came to be"; and yet "all a person has to do is follow the money"; and of course, you, personally, have overcome the great obstacles, which normally would demand years of extensive research, and now you "understand how the world, with the exception of a few [oil compnaies, a few right-wing political leaders, and yourself] has been duped."

I think someone should do an extensive study on the levels of self-aggrandizing narcissism present in the wilder conspiracy theories.

So you know everything about Maurice Strong and his role. Are you guessing or are you just too lazy to find out?

[Michael Hardner]

I guess it depends entirely on how much time we have to kill chasing dirty rainbows.

Did Maurice Strong cause the Global Warming movement ? The evidence needs to be examined ... but no.

[lukin]

I guess it depends entirely on how much time we have to kill chasing dirty rainbows.

Did Maurice Strong cause the Global Warming movement ? The evidence needs to be examined ... but no.

The AGW scare isn't about saving the planet; it's about making money. Strong is a major player; Rio 1992.

[waldo]

People need to do extensive research and realize who the puppet master behind the human caused global warming panic really is. It'll take many months if not years of extensive research to understand how this panic all came to be.

human caused global warming panic?...

whaaa!... the global warming "panic" was caused by... humans? I trust the penguins are off the hook - hey?

so - in the interests of your community service, you're saving the peeps your described months, if not years, of extensive research. You mean like... more than what you offered in your earlier "Green Agenda" thread (at least something new to warrant you starting this new thread - hey?). An easy MLW search from your earlier thread presents your earlier ramblings on Maurice Strong... have you more... to warrant you starting this new thread? Your earlier "Green Agenda" thread was last commented on Sept 25th - have you new findings in the passing month concerning Maurice Strong... that you didn't spew forward in your earlier thread... to warrant you starting this new thread? Will yours be a long running series of MLW threads... should we look forward to the "Green Agenda Returns"... a "Green Agenda Forever"... the "Dark Knight"

[bloodyminded]

So you know everything about Maurice Strong and his role. Are you guessing or are you just too lazy to find out?

You missed the entire point of my post. This takes real discipline, since it was stated clearly enough:

You said it would take "months or even years of extensive research" to figure out why the oil companies are correct and the scientists are wrong.

You then suggested that you, personally, have it all figured out.

[lukin]

You missed the entire point of my post. This takes real discipline, since it was stated clearly enough:

You said it would take "months or even years of extensive research" to figure out why the oil companies are correct and the scientists are wrong.

You then suggested that you, personally, have it all figured out.

You're the one who has misunderstood me. The research you need to do is on Maurice Strong, not the oil companies. Strong is the key player in the AGW hysteria. I've read much about Strong and it has taken me years as there is so much information out there about his role in all this. Shamefully, I have to admit that when the panic started, I believed it. However, I wasn't just going to accept this panic fully until I was able to do my own research. Researching this topic led me time and again to billionaire, Maurice Strong. Al Gore is nothing but a puppet dangling on Strong's strings. All I ask is for people to read as much as they can about Maurice Strong to understand how and why this global warming anxiety came to be.

Bloodyminded and waldo, you can continue to use petty sarcasm, but until you can tell me what you REALLY know about Maurice Strong, your comments will be useless.

Maurice Strong didn't start climate change, Michael Hardner. Nature does that. However, Strong and his ilk will profit tremendously from this panic. Read and find out how all of this will profit China, with Strong pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Waldo, you emoticon wizard, have you even heard of Maurice Strong?

[charter.rights]

I guess it depends entirely on how much time we have to kill chasing dirty rainbows.

Did Maurice Strong cause the Global Warming movement ? The evidence needs to be examined ... but no.

If you want to know who is responsible for the opposition to the climate change movement just follow the pipelines and CO2 trails.

[waldo]

Will yours be a long running series of MLW threads... should we look forward to the "Green Agenda Returns"... a "Green Agenda Forever"... the "Dark Knight"

Bloodyminded and waldo, you can continue to use petty sarcasm, but until you can tell me what you REALLY know about Maurice Strong, your comments will be useless.

Waldo, you emoticon wizard, have you even heard of Maurice Strong?

you mean besides from your earlier "Green Agenda" thread's linked web-site... oh wait... you didn't actually link or cite that web-site did you? No, I had to point out your repeated verbatim plagiarizing, and I had to link that web-site for you, didn't I? Like I said, in my earlier post, do you have something new that you didn't spew forward in your earlier thread/web-site, where we read you were hot for the 'Club of Rome'... given Strong's membership... along with such luminaries as, for example, Bill Gates and the Dalai Lama, will the reach of your ever expanding thread tentacles also come down on them? Your web-site also tells us about the Earth Council/Strong and you've just now drawn implication to the 92 UN conference in Brazil - do you have more - something to substantiate yet another thread that departs from your earlier 'Green Agenda' thread?

clearly, since you've ramped up another thread, this thread, with your ever continuing extensive research, surely you must have more to offer, with substantive "incriminating & damning evidence" of dastardly deeds and wanton destruction (/snarc). Hey now, let's bring it closer to home - why don't you start with the Canadian contingent within the Earth Council (that Strong was a founding member of), the Harmony Foundation... let's read your insight into the "lukin evils" of the Harmony Foundation. I trust you'll bother to check over that home page of the Harmony Foundation web-site... note how they've co-opted the sponsorship of the banks (Royal, BMO) and insurers (Co-Operators). Oh my!

but really, c'mon! It's always the two extremes with you... you either drop a "ta da" and scurry away without comment, or you drop a name/reference with no supporting detail and challenge others to tell you what they know about that name/reference. Buddy, the onus isn't on others... your name, your reference... you make, your case.

[lukin]

you mean besides from your earlier "Green Agenda" thread's linked web-site... oh wait... you didn't actually link or cite that web-site did you? No, I had to point out your repeated verbatim plagiarizing, and I had to link that web-site for you, didn't I? Like I said, in my earlier post, do you have something new that you didn't spew forward in your earlier thread/web-site, where we read you were hot for the 'Club of Rome'... given Strong's membership... along with such luminaries as, for example, Bill Gates and the Dalai Lama, will the reach of your ever expanding thread tentacles also come down on them? Your web-site also tells us about the Earth Council/Strong and you've just now drawn implication to the 92 UN conference in Brazil - do you have more - something to substantiate yet another thread that departs from your earlier 'Green Agenda' thread?

clearly, since you've ramped up another thread, this thread, with your ever continuing extensive research, surely you must have more to offer, with substantive "incriminating & damning evidence" of dastardly deeds and wanton destruction (/snarc). Hey now, let's bring it closer to home - why don't you start with the Canadian contingent within the Earth Council (that Strong was a founding member of), the Harmony Foundation... let's read your insight into the "lukin evils" of the Harmony Foundation. I trust you'll bother to check over that home page of the Harmony Foundation web-site... note how they've co-opted the sponsorship of the banks (Royal, BMO) and insurers (Co-Operators). Oh my!

but really, c'mon! It's always the two extremes with you... you either drop a "ta da" and scurry away without comment, or you drop a name/reference with no supporting detail and challenge others to tell you what they know about that name/reference. Buddy, the onus isn't on others... your name, your reference... you make, your case.

What do you know about Maurice Strong, Waldo. I know, absolutely nothing. You refuse to see the other side.

http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/al-groe-and-maurice-strong-con-artists-extordinaire/

Edited November 7, 2010 by lukin

[waldo]

I know, absolutely nothing.

I cede to your pronouncement!

[lukin]

I cede to your pronouncement!

Pathetic when you have to quote out of context. The tool of the weak-minded and wrong......waldo.

Simple question waldo: What do you know about Maurice Strong? Simple question, buddy.

It's as simple as the question I asked you months ago, but have yet to see a reply: What are you doing to save our planet, waldo?

[waldo]

Simple question waldo: What do you know about Maurice Strong? Simple question, buddy.

buddy, since you're loath to actually provide any details... you know, what you actually know... my extensive 10 sec google research has provided me insight to your last provided link, as authored by one 'Judi McLeod' of Canada Free Press infamy - I'm particularly taken with this article of Judi McLeod's that ties 9/11 to a mafia plot!

are you a truther, lukin?

[lukin]

buddy, since you're loath to actually provide any details... you know, what you actually know... my extensive 10 sec google research has provided me insight to your last provided link, as authored by one 'Judi McLeod' of Canada Free Press infamy - I'm particularly taken with this article of Judi McLeod's that ties 9/11 to a mafia plot!

are you a truther, lukin?

I notice you can't answer a simple question waldo. The only answers you ever give are copy and pasted from another source.

Have you ever heard of Maurice Strong, and what do you think of his influence over the years with the global warming panic? Simple question, waldo. In your own words please.

http://fathersforlife.org/articles/gunter/Strong_Martin_2.htm

[capricorn]

What do you know about Maurice Strong?

I've read a lot about Maurice Strong lukin, as you have. He is particularly fond of carbon credits and it's said he in fact gave birth to this lucrative business. The documentary Carbon Hunters traces the origin of buying and selling carbon credits.

His film describes how Canadians helped create the carbon-trading model.

The idea came from Maurice Strong, former head of the then national oil company Petro-Canada and later Ontario Hydro, who suggested such a model when he was a United Nations official heading the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro.

http://www.carbontwin.com/profiles/blogs/carbon-hunters-documentary

Mo's connection to Canadian politicians spanned Pearson, to PET and to Paul Martin. "Uncle Mo" as Bob Rae calls him, was a frequent visitor at the home of Saul Rae, Bob's deceased father. Mo went from working in high level federal jobs, on to the UN, back to the Canadian government and then back to the UN, wherever his talents were required it seems. Now, at the age of 79 he spends most of his time in China keeping busy with various businesses mostly centered in Asia. He's been one very entrepreneurial and consequently is a very wealthy guy. This bio of his comings and goings is enough to make your head spin.

http://www.mauricestrong.net/2008072115/strong-biography.html

[Sir Bandelot]

Hmm, Jesse Ventura did a TV show about the guy.

Jesse Ventura...

[lukin]

I've read a lot about Maurice Strong lukin, as you have. He is particularly fond of carbon credits and it's said he in fact gave birth to this lucrative business. The documentary Carbon Hunters traces the origin of buying and selling carbon credits.

http://www.carbontwin.com/profiles/blogs/carbon-hunters-documentary

Mo's connection to Canadian politicians spanned Pearson, to PET and to Paul Martin. "Uncle Mo" as Bob Rae calls him, was a frequent visitor at the home of Saul Rae, Bob's deceased father. Mo went from working in high level federal jobs, on to the UN, back to the Canadian government and then back to the UN, wherever his talents were required it seems. Now, at the age of 79 he spends most of his time in China keeping busy with various businesses mostly centered in Asia. He's been one very entrepreneurial and consequently is a very wealthy guy. This bio of his comings and goings is enough to make your head spin.

http://www.mauricestrong.net/2008072115/strong-biography.html

Learning about the shady dealings of Maurice Strong is key to understanding the origin of the human caused global warming hysteria/anxiety/panic theory. Like I said...follow the money...and it will lead you to Maurice Strong. He cares little about the environment as he claims. He's interested in transferring as much money from the West to China. Like I said earlier, it takes a great deal of reading to understand what is at play here.

[lukin]

Hmm, Jesse Ventura did a TV show about the guy.

Jesse Ventura...

Those who criticize Ventura are the same as those who loved him when he criticized George W. Bush. Funny how that is....eh.

[Michael Hardner]

Those who criticize Ventura are the same as those who loved him when he criticized George W. Bush. Funny how that is....eh.

I don't think that's true either. Thanks for reminding us about the great US Reform party. They just faded from memory in time for the Tea Party to rise up. Funny, that.

[Sir Bandelot]

Indeed. The line between "reality", and "reality TV" is but fleeting...

[waldo]

buddy, since you're loath to actually provide any details... you know, what you actually know... my extensive 10 sec google research has provided me insight to your last provided link, as authored by one 'Judi McLeod' of Canada Free Press infamy - I'm particularly taken with this article of Judi McLeod's that ties 9/11 to a mafia plot!

are you a truther, lukin?

I notice you can't answer a simple question waldo. The only answers you ever give are copy and pasted from another source.

Simple question, waldo. In your own words please.

whaaa! As lukin says, while dropping another link (after another link, after another link...) without offering any personal lukin comment I've re-quoted you the same

simple question, lukin. In your own words please.

are you a truther, lukin?

I'm also quite impressed you skirted over the following... I teed it right up for you - big time. I mean, really... c'mon... it ties right back to the Earth Council foundation... to the 92 UN conference. What more could you want... could you need? What? No comment from lukin? Wassup!

clearly, since you've ramped up another thread, this thread, with your ever continuing extensive research, surely you must have more to offer, with substantive "incriminating & damning evidence" of dastardly deeds and wanton destruction (/snarc). Hey now, let's bring it closer to home - why don't you start with the Canadian contingent within the Earth Council (that Strong was a founding member of), the Harmony Foundation... let's read your insight into the "lukin evils" of the Harmony Foundation. I trust you'll bother to check over that home page of the Harmony Foundation web-site... note how they've co-opted the sponsorship of the banks (Royal, BMO) and insurers (Co-Operators). Oh my!