The gather of the Ontario Libs

[Topaz]

The ON Libs are having their meetings trying to get ready for the election next Oct. but if Dalton is thinking they can win another election he's is off his rocker as much as Harper! He's done too much things to hurt Ontarians in the pocket book. I don't know what happens to these politicians after a time in power. The problem now for Ontarians is to see what the other two parties are going to do about the damage that has been done and HOW to correctit. Most of the time, the opposition parties don't really have a plan or the plan doesn't make sense. http://www.globalsaskatoon.com/Election+preparations+dominate+Ontario+Liberal+annual+general+meeting/3676917/story.html

[Sir Bandelot]

The reactionary vote can sometimes be even worse than maintaining status quo, if it's based on emotionalism rather than policy. Let's hope that will not be the case. The way to correct it is to replace Dalton with another figure before it's too late, and say all the nice things like "hope... change..."

[Oleg Bach]

The reactionary vote can sometimes be even worse than maintaining status quo, if it's based on emotionalism rather than policy. Let's hope that will not be the case. The way to correct it is to replace Dalton with another figure before it's too late, and say all the nice things like "hope... change..."

THERE must be a master liar running the show.

[Oleg Bach]

LIBERALISM = anger management - submission....and eventually getting screwed and being politically correct by saying you liked it.

[scribblet]

Now there's something for Mr. Hudak, all he has to do is start talking a lot about the hopee changee thingee

[Jack Weber]

Now there's something for Mr. Hudak, all he has to do is start talking a lot about the hopee changee thingee

And then the opposition can bring up the fact that Mr.Hudak has no other options for the HST and he backed Jim Flaharty in his failed PC leadership bid...The same Jim Flaharty who wanted to jail the homeless on "compassionate" grounds.The same Jim Flaharty,who's Harris lead gov't cut so much money from the public health coffers that the borderline psychiatric patients who used to be institutionlized had to be realeased back inot the population...

But at least the Harrisites gave you a tax cut...

[scribblet]

He can't eliminate the HST but he can cut it back and or he can eliminate the PST portion on some items, he can give people the option to use 'smart meters' and he can lower the electricity rates. He does have some options. The rest of your rant has no bearing on this election.

[Jack Weber]

He can't eliminate the HST but he can cut it back and or he can eliminate the PST portion on some items, he can give people the option to use 'smart meters' and he can lower the electricity rates. He does have some options. The rest of your rant has no bearing on this election.

I'll bet my 'rant" does seeing as Hudak is my MPP and many of the people I talk to keep bringing up his Harrisite past...He has no alternative for the HST.He did'nt at the time of his implimetation and a slight cut in itonly belies the fact that he essentially agrees with the philosophy behind it.

How will "Wine Tasting" Timmy reduce our hydro rates???

My guess is he'll go the privatization route because that's always reduced rates for those jurisdictions that have privatized electricity...

Keep trying to sell the Harrisite and always wait for the "Gimme my tax cut and get me outta here!" hook to get people to vote for him...

[Shwa]

He can't eliminate the HST but he can cut it back and or he can eliminate the PST portion on some items, he can give people the option to use 'smart meters' and he can lower the electricity rates. He does have some options. The rest of your rant has no bearing on this election.

All available as planks to McGuinty as well, before an election is called. As a gesture of goodwill to the people of Ontario.

[scribblet]

Now there's a thought, wonder if he'll do it hmmmm

[Jack Weber]

That would be one of the all time PR coup's if he could somehow eliminate the HST and spin it as positive...Remember all those jobs that were going to be created by the tax????

[capricorn]

That would be one of the all time PR coup's if he could somehow eliminate the HST and spin it as positive...

There's nothing an opposition party likes more than when the party in power introduces a new tax. When the government is turfed, it guarantees an additional source of revenue for the incoming government to spend without being branded the bad guys. Demanding a new government rescind a tax is like asking five year olds to give up their suckers or teenagers their ipods. We saw this happen with Chretien who promised that if elected, the Liberals would abolish the GST and they reneged. So no, Hudak will not dismantle the HST and personally I think that's the way to go. But I think in the PC's policy platform, expected to be released next summer, they will expand exemptions to the application of the HST. We'll see.

[scribblet]

They can't eliminate it without paying back buckets of money to Ottawa, McGuinty looked after that issue very well. We can only hope that one away or another by the next election we will see relief (from taxes).

[Jack Weber]

They can't eliminate it without paying back buckets of money to Ottawa, McGuinty looked after that issue very well. We can only hope that one away or another by the next election we will see relief (from taxes).

As did Slasher Jimmy,who's always favoured a harmonized tax...

It's called quid pro quo between the fed's and the province....

[William Ashley]

Now there's something for Mr. Hudak, all he has to do is start talking a lot about the hopee changee thingee

Sadly I am not assured of the "soundness" of Mr. Hudaks policy positions that I have encountered so far. He seems to be "fight for the little guy" less so than "be reasonable". While a leader lacking common sense is not necisarily unsound - it is questionable if they would make the majority of ontarians happy if he is for the little guy.

Can anyone give me example of Hudaks positions that arn't minority positions (That is benefiting a minority of ontarians)

I'm not a fan of playing to minority groups at the cost of reason.

I'm not anti Hudak any more than I am anti Harper (actually I am far less anti hudak)

I actually have nothing bad to say about mr. hudak other than him not taking sound policy positions. I have many things to say about Mr. Harper in his job performance in addition to policy positions. but none so much about him on a personal basis other than him not being able to be a good judge of the future and/or being a liar.

I actually am more 'affrai' of ignatieff than I am Harper, and I am neither afraid of mcguinty nor hudak. on a policy framework. I have reasons for this -- YES I think the liberal party would be better for Canadians and Ignatieff is someone to square off against harper - but that is if he doesn't go into retirement before him.

Really it is his level of Americanism - it is more than Harper imo. There is no way I could vote for harpers government after 300 billion of debt spending in 4 years, but I am unlike to vote whatsoever... not to spill my own beans, but no one is offering a fully functional policy framework that addresses the real issues of an aging canadian population, and high debt load - combined with already high tax levels. The boomers don't seem to care if they bring it down for the survivors.

Edited October 18, 2010 by William Ashley