LBloom Posted November 27, 2010 Report Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) What an unfortunate thread. Apparently started by a pro-Israel poster who would like nothing more than responses that deprecate the Palestinians and make them out to be incapable of self-government, not that they have ever had the chance. Start with 600 years under the Turks, during which the Ottomans pretty much drained every resource from the region and gave nothing back. Everybody who lived in the region was kept poor, subjugated and ignorant. The Turks only introduced a land registry so they could get a record of residents who could be called up for military service. Following the First World War, Balfour, and Versailles, educated Jewish Zionists with connections and resources come in and establish their homeland. There is no more telling feature of the times than the fact that the British disarmed both the Jews and the Arabs in 1939 and only the Jews had the resources to re-arm following the Second World War when the Czech munitions factories no longer could count on Nazi business. Of course they used those munitions to drive hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs into refugee camps in other countries - countries which themselves were only nascent, as well as to drive the British themselves out. To presume some standard on these people when they have never had a chance in the first place is hardly kosher, neh? Edited November 27, 2010 by LBloom Quote
jbg Posted November 27, 2010 Author Report Posted November 27, 2010 What an unfortunate thread. Apparently started by a pro-Israel poster who would like nothing more than responses that deprecate the Palestinians and make them out to be incapable of self-government, not that they have ever had the chance.**************To presume some standard on these people when they have never had a chance in the first place is hardly kosher, neh? I am a pro-Israeli poster. Unashamedly so. Why do you think Jews havfe no right to self-determination but the "Palestinians" do? Also, why do most of those garden spots like Pakistan, Sudan and the like also seem incapable of self-government? Next you're going to say that the Ottoman Turks were Zionists? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted November 29, 2010 Report Posted November 29, 2010 Start with 600 years under the Turks, during which the Ottomans pretty much drained every resource from the region and gave nothing back. Everybody who lived in the region was kept poor, subjugated and ignorant. The Turks only introduced a land registry so they could get a record of residents who could be called up for military service. So what excuse do the Greeks have? I mean..for having a functioning democracy? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted December 13, 2010 Report Posted December 13, 2010 Seems some folks are actually looking into the Mufti's actions alongside Allied efforts to help certain Nazis escape the Soviets. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2010/12/13/mark-collins-hitlers-favourite-mufti/ http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/us/12holocaust.html?ref=world The report... http://www.archives.gov/iwg/reports/hitlers-shadow.pdf Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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