Charlton Heston wants long-gun registry scrapped...

[M.Dancer]

And when you calm down try to find evidence firearms make people commit crimes.

Can you participate in a debate without a strawman?

Tell you what, use the empty space up there and find where I made the claim that firearms make people commit crimes and I promise to take you a tiny bit more seriously...

No back to your illogic. You imply there is a connection between the handgun ban in the UK and you claim there is no connection between guns and crime. Which is it then.

Explain why crime is on the rise in Switzerland?

[Saipan]

Can you participate in a debate without a strawman?

Can you?

Tell you what, use the empty space up there and find where I made the claim that firearms make people commit crimes and I promise to take you a tiny bit more seriously...

So we established firearms don't make people commit crimes. We are making progress.

You imply there is a connection between the handgun ban in the UK and you claim there is no connection between guns and crime. Which is it then.

Do you read what you write?

Explain why crime is on the rise in Switzerland?

You have the evidence? How high is it now?

What are the new policies regarding immigration from countries with high crime to Switzerland ?

[M.Dancer]

So we established firearms don't make people commit crimes. We are making progress.

Establish where I made the claim, otherwise shut up.

Do you read what you write?

I see, so you have no defense for you claims...point, me

You have the evidence? How high is it now?

Unlike you, I do not make claims that cannot be back up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Switzerland

What are the new policies regarding immigration from countries with high crime to Switzerland ?

That's just lame...Lictor/Kanadischer/Saipan...

Edited October 4, 2010 by M.Dancer

[Saipan]

Establish where I made the claim, otherwise shut up.

So you claim you didn't make the claim. Let's simplify. Do guns make people commit crime or not?

Unlike you, I do not make claims that cannot be back up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Switzerland

Which claim you CAN back up?? ANY specifics??

Btw, thanks for the link. Supports my point - half the perps were NOT Swiss.

Any idea why South Africa became the most violent country now?

Edited October 4, 2010 by Saipan

[Saipan]

"There are not enough jails, not enough policemen,

not enough courts to enforce a law not supported by the people."

- - - - Vice President Hubert Humphrey, May 1, 1965

[waldo]

"There are not enough jails, not enough policemen,

not enough courts to enforce a law not supported by the people."

- - - - Vice President Hubert Humphrey, May 1, 1965

A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.

... U.S. Presidents trump Vice Presidents... BC_2004 in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...

[Saipan]

... U.S. Presidents trump Vice Presidents... BC_2004 in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...

Seen that message on the bottom of a bottle?

[Saipan]

http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article5.htm

ONLY LES NESSMAN WOULD LIKE OUR GUN CONTROL

[Saipan]

"You do not examine legislation in light of the benefits it will convey if

properly administered, but in light of the wrongs it would do and the

harms it would cause if improperly administered."

~ ~ ~ Lyndon B. Johnson

[Saipan]

NO rights to a lawyer, combined with NO right to a property (which even Red China has now) in our "constitution", Canada is going down the Liberal/NDP drain.

http://kateysfirearmsfacts.com/Bulletin/Katey's%20Rights%20and%20Freedom%20Bulletin%20No.%207.pdf

[Saipan]

I wonder how can anyone post Today at 11:25PM on Direct Democracy

and Old Whities in Alberta responsible for Harper's Power, when it's only 10:55PM

[bloodyminded]

I wonder how can anyone post Today at 11:25PM on Direct Democracy

and Old Whities in Alberta responsible for Harper's Power, when it's only 10:55PM

I blame the leftist media.

[Shwa]

I blame the leftist media.

Time leaping forward is a right-leaning exercise. You know, clockwise. The future media is rightist, by definition. (yes, even afer 6 o'clock)

If it was the leftist media, then it would be counterclockwise, going backward into time, into the past.

Which begs the question as to whether leftist prefer historical novels and righties go for sci-fi. I mean even Gene Rodenberry described life in the 20th century as "nasty, brutish and short."

[bloodyminded]

Time leaping forward is a right-leaning exercise. You know, clockwise. The future media is rightist, by definition. (yes, even afer 6 o'clock)

If it was the leftist media, then it would be counterclockwise, going backward into time, into the past.

It seems your logic is pretty infallible.

By a similar token, lefties have the heart ("My heart's on the left," as those old NDP campaign buttons used to read), while the righties are thr proprietors of...I dunno, the liver?

[Saipan]

I blame the leftist media.

They own this forum too?

I remember when they shut down the Sympatico Forum and after that CBC Forum (only French version was left [being lef])

We only have Free CBC Forum now. [not really connected to CBC]

[bloodyminded]

They own this forum too?

Nope.

[Saipan]

That's a relieve to know.

[Saipan]

R. v. Jeffrey D. Young, 2010 NBPC 31

This case caught my eye because it talked about a

“transportation certificate” for long guns. There is

no such thing for long guns under the Firearms Act.

The only time an Authorization To Transport is

required is for restricted and prohibited firearms.

It seems New Brunswick has some odd rules of its

own, even though I was not able to find a reference

to them online, not even through New Brunswick

Wildlife Federation.

The decision in the case says Young was “by virtue

of section 9(2) of Regulation 84-133 prohibited from

having in his possession any firearm larger than .22

calibre which uses a centre fire cartridge.”

The judge uses Regulation 84-133 of the New

Brunswick Hunting Regulations as the basis for his

decision that Mr. Young was “not entitled to have

the rifle in his possession and therefore the Crown has

proven all the necessary elements of the offence.”

The case revolves around a traffic stop made by

Conservation Officer McIntyre on November 25,

2009.

Back in 2004 the New Brunswick Fish and Wildlife

Branch of the Department of Natural Resources

wanted to control when someone could take a nonrestricted

rifle to a shooting range before or after

hunting season.

Their solution was something called the McCallum

Memorandum, a document written by Ernest G.

McCallum when he managed the department.

The upside of the case is that Mr. Young was found

not guilty by reason of officially induced error.

What’s less clear is why New Brunswick is using

provincial regulation to prohibit transporting

legally-owned non-restricted firearms even though

Canada’s Firearms Act specifically does NOT.

[Saipan]

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101125/shooting-murder-toronto-101125/20101125/?hub=TorontoNewHome

"The incident is believed to be the 10th shooting in Toronto in the past six days, including two others in the Lawrence Avenue East area."

Good we have that handgun registration since 1934.

[guyser]

"The incident is believed to be the 10th shooting in Toronto in the past six days, including two others in the Lawrence Avenue East area."

10?

Not bad, 4million people and 10 shootings. I like that better than most other places in this country.

[Jack Weber]

10?

Not bad, 4million people and 10 shootings. I like that better than most other places in this country.

I wonder how many shootings there have been in....say....Detroit,in the same period of time?

[Saipan]

10?

Not bad, 4million people and 10 shootings. I like that better than most other places in this country.

So why it was lower before long gun registration, in fact even before FAC licences.

[Saipan]

I wonder how many shootings there have been in....say....Detroit,in the same period of time?

I'm quite sure it was much higher in Motown, and Washington DC (like all black areas)

[Guest TrueMetis]

So why it was lower before long gun registration, in fact even before FAC licences.

There are hundreds of reasons that could explain that.

[guyser]

So why it was lower before long gun registration, in fact even before FAC licences.

inflation