Saipan Posted September 30, 2010 Report Posted September 30, 2010 Who does what, where? That was my question. You forgot what claim you made? Irrelevant Your claims are irrelevant now? That was fast Seems all your posts are. You need to do your homework before you post. Quote
Saipan Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 Automatic gun was used in recent Canadian history only three time in crime. In all three cases by government employees using government registered guns. Should we outlaw automatic guns for government use? Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 That was my question. You forgot what claim you made? Try not to write in morse code. If you want to state something, state is clearly Your claims are irrelevant now? That was fast If you think I made a claim about ammunition, I welcome your search to find it. Seems all your posts are. You need to do your homework before you post. You need to learn how debate works Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 Try not to write in morse code. If you want to state something, state is clearly I did. And with evidence. Firearm ownership has no bearing on homicide OR suicide rate. If you think I made a claim about ammunition, I welcome your search to find it. No need. I ask again: 1) What ammo you used for hunting? 2) Do you think military ammo is illegal? 3) Do you think expanding bullets are illegal? Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 I did. And with evidence. Firearm ownership has no bearing on homicide OR suicide rate. Please re-post No need. I ask again: 1) What ammo you used for hunting? Irrelevant 2) Do you think military ammo is illegal? Equally irrelevant 3) Do you think expanding bullets are illegal? Have I said they were illegal in Canada? Unless I have, your questions are irrelevant. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 Please re-post As often as you wish. New World Homicide Rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) As often as you wish. New World Homicide Rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic This is your claim I'm still waiting for evidence that the hand gun ban has a correlation to crime in the UK...or is global warming the reason? I did. And with evidence. Firearm ownership has no bearing on homicide OR suicide rate. Your links makes no reference to your claim. keep swinging Edited October 1, 2010 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 This is your claim Your links makes no reference to your claim. OK, let make it one step at a time again. Can you see the homicide rate for Czech Republic, Canada, Jamaica and Mexico in the first link? New World Homicide Rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate Now, can you see the gun laws in Czech Republic in the second link? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 OK, let make it one step at a time again. Can you see the homicide rate for Czech Republic, Canada, Jamaica and Mexico in the first link? New World Homicide Rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate Now, can you see the gun laws in Czech Republic in the second link? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_Czech_Republic And neither show correlation between guns or murder. What's more, the murder rate does not show the method of murder. In short, your proofs are worthless. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 And neither show correlation between guns or murder. What's more, the murder rate does not show the method of murder. In short, your proofs are worthless. Whatever your "correlation" means it shows low homicide rate with very liberal gun laws - and vice versa. And that is all you need to know to realize guns have nothing to do with crime. Now you can put your head back in the sand and feel warm and fuzzy. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 Whatever your "correlation" means it shows low homicide rate with very liberal gun laws - and vice versa. It means that random data may have no bearing on your conclusions....for example linking guns to homicides when you inculde all homicides....stabbing have ne bearing or correlation to the data..on the otherhand, if you look a homicides committed with firearms... Let me refresh....for you. Murders with firearms per 100,000 Czech Republic 2.07 Canada .50292 Winner, Czech Republic And that is all you need to know to realize guns have nothing to do with crime. Really? How does that jibe with your other unsubstantiated claim? REGISTERED handguns were confiscated from lawabiding citizen in the UK. Gun crime went up. . Either guns and crime are linked as you claim, or guns and crime are not linked, as you claim. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 It means that random data may have no bearing on your conclusions....for example linking guns to homicides Why any linking? Just facts. There's no link. Either guns and crime are linked as you claim, or guns and crime are not linked, as you claim. Take your pick. Are they linked or not? Makes no difference to me. Same results. I.e. guns do not make people commit crimes. Else we have serious problems with cops and soldiers. Quote
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 "I came to Ottawa in November with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers" - - - - Alan Rock, "Taking Aim on Guns" Maclean's, April 25, 1994, pg.12 Alan Rock, Paul Martin, Dulton McGuinty, David Miller and other liberals are advocating police state. Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Alan Rock, Paul Martin, Dulton McGuinty, David Miller and other liberals are advocating police state. So the UK and Australia are police states? Quote
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 So the UK and Australia are police states? Fortunately they don't let Alan Rock, Paul Martin, Dulton McGuinty, David Miller and other liberals run the country. Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Fortunately they don't let Alan Rock, Paul Martin, Dulton McGuinty, David Miller and other liberals run the country. They don't let liberals run the country? Ever? Quote
Radsickle Posted October 2, 2010 Author Report Posted October 2, 2010 Fortunately, they'd never let Saipan run the country either. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Take your pick. Are they linked or not? Makes no difference to me. Same results. I.e. guns do not make people commit crimes. Else we have serious problems with cops and soldiers. Yes exactly, you have so much unused space in your brain you can have two conradictory thoughts at the same time. Game set and match Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 They don't let liberals run the country? Ever? Nope. You have to be Australian to be elected. Quote
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Yes exactly, you have so much unused space in your brain you can have two conradictory thoughts at the same time. When you're losing debate try belittling and name calling. It'll make you look smarter. And when you calm down try to find evidence firearms make people commit crimes. Quote
Smallc Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 Nope. You have to be Australian to be elected. They don't have liberals there? Quote
Saipan Posted October 2, 2010 Report Posted October 2, 2010 They don't have liberals there? Not the ones I named - fortunately. They don't even have Wendy Cukier Quote
Saipan Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) "There are going to be situations where people are going to go without assistance. That's just the facts of life." - - - - LA Chief of Police, Daryl Gates. Edited October 4, 2010 by Saipan Quote
RNG Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 What some dumb dead American actor thinks results in a 10 page thread on a Canadian political message board? Come on!!!111!!!! Quote The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.
Saipan Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 What some dumb dead American actor thinks results in a 10 page thread on a Canadian political message board? Come on!!!111!!!! Ronald Reagan was actually the most successful President. Quote
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