More aid for Pakistan

[M.Dancer]

You think so? Look at the BNP, NPD, along with the millions upon millions of (I cringe as I type) "Neo-Nazi" Skinheads. Even though they act like baboons, and are complete idiots, they still hold National Socialist views, for the most part.

You are right about National Socialism, however it did not have a policy stating it is necessary to declare war, and Germany itself did not start the war! If you think Germany started the war, I think it's time you go back to Middle School. It was France who declared war on Germany, not the other way around.

Ummmm..yes Lictor (pats skinhead on head, disinfects hand)

[GostHacked]

It is also the perfect time for the Taliban to regroup and gain stronger influence.

If they play it really smart - maybe even an Islamic revolution.

If we do it right when helping them, this is the perfect time to prevent that from happening. If you want to sit on the sideline then yes Al-queda/Taliban/whatever-their-future-name-is, will fill the void and become a problem..... again.

[M.Dancer]

The fact that it is a "Neo-Nazi" Holocaust "Denial" site is not relevant at all since the quotation is still real. I'm sure there are other sources as well, that's just where I saw it.

Lictor, what is relevant is you habituate sites known for human scum.

[Kanadischer]

Lictor, what is relevant is you habituate sites known for human scum.

Whose to say I am not a "lurker" like you must have been? Whose to say I'm a daily visitor? Damn, you people jump the gun a lot

[Kanadischer]

There are more fans of the soap opera 'Days of Our Lives' and even they have more power, money and property than all the skinheads in the world. National Socialism is effectively dead since it is an ideology without power. Heck, even Star Trek fans have more power than all the so-called National Socialist reichtards and there will be more Star Trek movies coming out in the future to appease their demands. Although I will admit, I am a little uncomfortable with the 'altered timeline' schtick. (get it? "schtick" )

Typically, Jews have more money than people who have hopped off the bandwagon. Jews own 96% of the worlds media, so naturally, they will have more power, money, influence, etc.

Right, to start a war, one must actually declare a war as opposed to committing an act of war. You may wish to revisit your "middle school" and brush up on clues since you have appeared to lost a few.

What is your definition of committing an act of war? Taking of land which was previously yours is not committing an act of war, it's taking what is rightfully yours, regardless of what anyone thinks. The war never started until France declared it, quite simple.

[M.Dancer]

Whose (sic) to say I am not a "lurker" like you must have been? Whose (sic) to say I'm a daily visitor? Damn, you people jump the gun a lot

I am.

Morons of a feather goosestep together...

[Jack Weber]

I am.

Morons of a feather goosestep together...

Not conquest...

Lebensraum...

Y'know...Like rigging the Anschluss in Austria...

Or the Sudatenland...

Or rigging phony Polish attacks in Eastern Germany...

Edited August 25, 2010 by Jack Weber

[jbg]

Lictor, what is relevant is you habituate sites known for human scum.

Are you including this site?

[Argus]

No thats horse shit. There's nothing wrong at all with people helping other people in need. Its one of the things that sets us apart as a race, and probably one of the attributes that has made us successfull.

Are you saying we're a better race than the Pakistanis?

[Michael Hardner]

What is your definition of committing an act of war? Taking of land which was previously yours is not committing an act of war, it's taking what is rightfully yours, regardless of what anyone thinks. The war never started until France declared it, quite simple.

That means Italy invading all of Europe is ok, I suppose.

[Argus]

You make some valid points. On the other hand, do you just want to let the bastards die? The gov't is corrupt, and the civilians who are dying do have to take some responsibility for that, but i wouldn't punish them with withholding aid that will lead to death.

There is a strong school of thought out there that says many of the world's most inept, dictatorial regimes have managed to hang onto power for so long only because of western aid helping to provide for the masses and thus keeping the lid on what would otherwise be an explosive situation. Have we, in our efforts to stave off a disastrous situation, merely ensured that lousy governments can stay in power over decades?

The Pakistan government is corrupt and inept. It deserves to fall. There is a great outcry about their poor performance on the floods. So should we pour money and resource in to relieve the situation - and thus relieve the pressure on the regime?

[Argus]

A Defeated ideology? That's funny. It was not National Socialism that failed, it was Germany. National Socialism didn't cause a war, the French and British did.

Uhm, where do you get that the Brits and French were responsible for a war the Germans initiated by attacking Poland?

[Argus]

So you have a neighbour, a rather unpleasant neighbour for a number of reasons. He has a big sports car he likes to tinker with, and wears expensive suits. He also drinks a lot. The guy's kids, on the other hand, are in rags. So he points to his kids and says to you "My poor kids need more clothes. Buy them some."

Do you do it on the theory that, well, it's not the kids fault their old man is an a-hole? Or do you tell him he should buy his kids the clothes himself and stop spending his money on booze?

[ToadBrother]

What is your definition of committing an act of war? Taking of land which was previously yours is not committing an act of war, it's taking what is rightfully yours, regardless of what anyone thinks. The war never started until France declared it, quite simple.

Now that's revisionism in the extreme. Hitler always planned to invade France, he made that clear when he re-armed the Rhineland.

By why would anybody actually debate with someone so dishonest and vile? Not me. You keep masturbating to swastikas. That's probably about all your capable of.

[M.Dancer]

Now that's revisionism in the extreme. Hitler always planned to invade France, he made that clear when he re-armed the Rhineland.

By why would anybody actually debate with someone so dishonest and vile? Not me. You keep masturbating to swastikas. That's probably about all your capable of.

Not so sure Hitler had many terretorial ambitions in France (alsace excluded)...but the Czechs, the Poles and the Ukrainians were fuskered...

[Kanadischer]

Uhm, where do you get that the Brits and French were responsible for a war the Germans initiated by attacking Poland?

Attacking Poland was not declaring war on France and England, it was attacking Poland. An ally of Britain and France. It was France who started the war by declaring it, quite simple.

[Jack Weber]

Attacking Poland was not declaring war on France and England, it was attacking Poland. An ally of Britain and France. It was France who started the war by declaring it, quite simple.

So the unnecessary invasion of Poland was some sort of Gulf of Tonkin incident??

Got it...

[Bonam]

Attacking Poland was not declaring war on France and England, it was attacking Poland. An ally of Britain and France. It was France who started the war by declaring it, quite simple.

Umm attacking a country IS starting a war.

[Kanadischer]

Now that's revisionism in the extreme. Hitler always planned to invade France, he made that clear when he re-armed the Rhineland.

By why would anybody actually debate with someone so dishonest and vile? Not me. You keep masturbating to swastikas. That's probably about all your capable of.

Once again, just because Hitler despised France, which he, along with Germany had reason to, does not mean he declared war. Re-arming the Rhine was nothing more than a "Fuck with me, and you'll get burnt" type of thing. Sure he wanted to attack France, but he did not actually do it until France declared war on Germany.

[M.Dancer]

Attacking Poland was not declaring war on France and England, it was attacking Poland. An ally of Britain and France. It was France who started the war by declaring it, quite simple.

There is historical revisionism and then there is stupidity. You have both covered admirably.

[Jack Weber]

There is historical revisionism and then there is stupidity. You have both covered admirably.

I'm waiting for him to tell us that Hitler,and his merry band of NAZI Fascists,were really misunderstood and benevolent.And that the Allies made a huge mistake in siding with Stalin instead of Hitler becuase if the evils of Communism...

That's always an interesting take in history...

[Kanadischer]

Umm attacking a country IS starting a war.

You're right, but that war was not with France nor England, but with Poland, an "ally". It was France who enlisted the help of England, and then Canada, followed by the USA.

I'm waiting for him to tell us that Hitler,and his merry band of NAZI Fascists,were really misunderstood and benevolent.And that the Allies made a huge mistake in siding with Stalin instead of Hitler becuase if the evils of Communism...

That's always an interesting take in history...

I was getting to that actually!

[Guest TrueMetis]

You're right, but that war was not with France nor England, but with Poland, an "ally". It was France who enlisted the help of England, and then Canada, followed by the USA.

So you're saying you wouldn't do anything if I was to knock out a friend of yours and take his stuff?

[Bonam]

You're right, but that war was not with France nor England, but with Poland, an "ally". It was France who enlisted the help of England, and then Canada, followed by the USA.

Germany invaded Poland. It started the war. It knew what it was getting into. Crying that the nasty allies ganged up on poor innocent Germany only makes you look stupid.

[Argus]

Germany invaded Poland. It started the war. It knew what it was getting into. Crying that the nasty allies ganged up on poor innocent Germany only makes you look stupid.

Germany invaded Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium(neutral), Denmark (neutral) Norway (neutral), Holland (neutral), etc. Attempts to excuse German militarism on the basis that England and France were only defending Poland is sophomoric and pointless. Germany would have attacked them regardless of what they did or when they did it.