bjre Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) http://www.healthzone.ca/health/yourhealth/article/831108--study-links-fructose-intake-to-high-blood-pressure?bn=1 Study links fructose intake to high blood pressureREUTERS July 1, 2010 CHICAGO—Eating a lot of foods and drinks sweetened with fructose significantly raises a person’s risk of having high blood pressure, U.S. researchers said Thursday. He said cutting back on sugary foods and drinks should help to lower blood pressure, which can lead to heart and kidney disease. How did they draw that conclusion? They study only 4528 people. Study links fructose intake to high blood pressureFor the study, Chonchol’s team studied diet surveys of 4,528 U.S. adults over 18 who had no history of high blood pressure or hypertension. They analyzed what people ate to look specifically for the fructose content, and correlated that with blood pressure readings in three important ranges, pre-hypertension or those with a reading of 135/85; hypertension or a readings of 140/90 and extreme hypertension, or a reading of 160/100 or higher. They study drinks, instead of fructose from original fruit, ignore the effect of additional materials added in the drink during the production. People who took in 74 grams (2.6 ounces) of fructose a day or more—about 2.5 sugary drinks—had a 28 percent increased risk of blood pressure of 135/85 or higher. They had a 77 percent higher risk of extreme high blood pressure of 160/100 or more, Chonchol said. They talk about sugar instead of fructose which is irrelevant to the topic that confuse people further. Several studies have suggested that cutting back on sugary soft drinks, a major contributor of sugar in the American diet, could significantly reduce blood pressure risks. The media make the headline a conclusion, only in a very small part near the end mentioned objection voice which makes many people failed to notice, and this part will be ignored later when it has been repeated by other media several times: But the Corn Refiners Association objected to the study, saying the researchers overestimated the amount of fructose in drinks, although Chonchol denied this and defended his measurements.The American Beverage Association also objected. “This study, which looks at fructose intake, furthers the confusion and misunderstandings about high fructose corn syrup and sugar-sweetened beverages,” Dr. Maureen Storey of ABA said in a statement. She said the design of the study means it cannot establish a cause and effect relationship, something Chonchol agrees with. He said that would take a randomized clinical trial comparing the effects of other kinds of sugars. Why this kind of "news" can be seen in media? What are they want? The only reason I can imagine is: Lots of people don't take fruits regularly, this harms people's health, the medical system want more people take their medicine and go to hospital, they need more people with illness. So they give misleading information and make many people confused. That is the nature of the media, they are controlled by corporations. Edited July 2, 2010 by bjre Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Topaz Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 I've know about this for a number of years, that is why diabetics is running rapid in North America. If you just stopped and read some of the labels that do give information you'd be shocked. It the same with some medications too. I think the provinces should support more of the "natural" doctors, there room for both in society especially, the people that are sensitive to man-made medications. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 If you want to see how much corporate media lies watch this movie. It a documentary by Oliver Stone on Hugo Chavez. Here is a trailer. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 If you want to see how much corporate media lies watch this movie. It a documentary by Oliver Stone on Hugo Chavez. Looks like you can't get enough of the corporate media "lies", especially when they come from the United States! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 Looks like you can't get enough of the corporate media "lies", especially when they come from the United States! I have no obsession with corporate news the lies, I just like to look things from different perspectives. I don't have cable so I can't watch corporate news. Lucky for me coming to this forum is like watching corporate news because people on this forum mainly talk about what they see on corporate news. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 I have no obsession with corporate news the lies, I just like to look things from different perspectives. Then they are not "lies" at all. "Truth" is way overrated. I don't have cable so I can't watch corporate news. Lucky for me coming to this forum is like watching corporate news because people on this forum mainly talk about what they see on corporate news. Corporate news is far more pervasive than just cable networks. Somebody has to pay the freight. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
maple_leafs182 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 Then they are not "lies" at all. "Truth" is way overrated. Well I don't believe they think or know they are lying. They are fed their information from the government. Now do I think the U.S. government is lying, yes. Corporate news is far more pervasive than just cable networks. Somebody has to pay the freight. Personally I think corporate news shouldn't mold public opinion, I think should be their to inform the public. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
bloodyminded Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 A good thing about films like this, even if one disagrees with them or has serious reservations about what is presented, is that it opens the dialogue up a bit, and corrects some factual missaprehensions. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
GostHacked Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 I'll try to dig it up, but I saw a nice video that went into great detail about how fructose is actually a poison. The body can handle infinite amounts of glucose (good sugars) which most fruits and veggies have. The fructose is a corn based sugar which seems to be causing most of the health problems and is a high contributing factor to the high amount of people with diabetes. Oh here is the video, if you can sit through about 90 minutes, he does a very good job of explaining how fructose is a poison. It's an interesting lesson in biology. Essentially corn based sugar (fructose) overrides/supresses a compound called LDL, which gives you the signal that you are full, you've have enough to eat. It may be all sugars are bad, but some kinds of sugars are a lot worse than others. Quote
Remiel Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 Oh here is the video, if you can sit through about 90 minutes, he does a very good job of explaining how fructose is a poison. It's an interesting lesson in biology. eems to be causing most of the health problems and is a high contributing factor to the high amount of people with diabetes. Essentially corn based sugar (fructose) overrides/supresses a compound called LDL, which gives you the signal that you are full, you've have enough to eat. It may be all sugars are bad, but some kinds of sugars are a lot worse than others. I do not really have ninety minutes I want to spend of that, but I do have a question that perhaps you can answer because you have watched it: the thesis is that because fructose is bad for you, it is a poison? I am not sure that jives. Poison, while we use it quite often, has a specific meaning when you get down to it. It is not just, " bad for you. " It is more like, " Causes you to cease functioning entirely. " If all it does is suppress LDL, I do not see how even an unlimited amount would be able to actually directly kill you, which poisons do. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 2, 2010 Report Posted July 2, 2010 I do not really have ninety minutes I want to spend of that, but I do have a question that perhaps you can answer because you have watched it: the thesis is that because fructose is bad for you, it is a poison? I am not sure that jives. Poison, while we use it quite often, has a specific meaning when you get down to it. It is not just, " bad for you. " It is more like, " Causes you to cease functioning entirely. " If all it does is suppress LDL, I do not see how even an unlimited amount would be able to actually directly kill you, which poisons do. I still suggest watching it, he explains it way better than I could, it's a biology lesson as well. Poison does not need to have instant effects to be considered poison. Many of of us smoke and drink . And we know what poisons are in that. The professor explains it this way : Glucose can be absorbed by the body in infinite amounts and processed without adverse effects on the body. The body can't handle fructose in large amounts. The body cannot absorb it. He explains it using the liver and how it processes sugar. Fructose through a process gets turned into fat, the remainder which cannot be processed initially goes to a secondary process which eventually turns the remainder into fat. The effects on the cardiovascular system is noticeable as well. Creating items in the blood stream that can clog arteries and even damage artery walls. In LDL, it suppresses the 'I'm full' signal to the brain to prevent you from overeating. So we are eating more to feel full, and this is on every meal we eat. The effects are obvious on that. We get fatter. We take in more food than we actually need. We would actually eat less if the LDL signal was not suppressed. He correlates the introduction of corn based sugar in our foods and the continued and expanded use to the rising cases in diabetes, type 2 to be exact. He also correlates other health problems with the rise of corn based sugar in our foods. Corn is not something we eat or should eat every day, but you'd be hard pressed to find processed foods without glucose-fructose being one of the top 5 ingredients. Corn based sugar was used because it was cheaper than cane sugar. Part of the reason is that cane-sugar was for the most part an import to north america (US specifically) Corn is grown plenty in the US. Quote
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