After 4 days of Liberals harping about Rahim Jaffer

[punked]

Two months of hurling accusations at Conservatives and Rahim Jaffer about meetings with Nazim Gallani. It now comes out the Liberal party president sat on his bum and didn't tell anyone about some sort of meeting with the same Gallani until it came up at a committee hearing. I'd be more than just a little out of sorts if I was a Liberal. Maybe the Liberals should have moved on when THE NDP said this was all much to do about nothing. We see again who the real opposition is an who just thinks they have some god given right to be in Parliament.

Today at the Commons Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates, private investigator Derrick Snowdy said that Liberal party President Alfred Apps, a lawyer at Fasken Martineau, acted for accused fraudster Nazim Gillani. "Mr. Apps was the getaway driver for Mr. Gillani in a previous encounter," Snowdy told the committee.

http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2010/5/12/4527421.html

[bloodyminded]

Two months of hurling accusations at Conservatives and Rahim Jaffer about meetings with Nazim Gallani. It now comes out the Liberal party president sat on his bum and didn't tell anyone about some sort of meeting with the same Gallani until it came up at a committee hearing. I'd be more than just a little out of sorts if I was a Liberal. Maybe the Liberals should have moved on when THE NDP said this was all much to do about nothing. We see again who the real opposition is an who just thinks they have some god given right to be in Parliament.

http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2010/5/12/4527421.html

You'd think after years of a Harper government, I'd be slightly less sick of the Liberals by now. But nope.

[waldo]

Two months of hurling accusations at Conservatives and Rahim Jaffer about meetings with Nazim Gallani. It now comes out the Liberal party president sat on his bum and didn't tell anyone about some sort of meeting with the same Gallani until it came up at a committee hearing. I'd be more than just a little out of sorts if I was a Liberal. Maybe the Liberals should have moved on when THE NDP said this was all much to do about nothing. We see again who the real opposition is an who just thinks they have some god given right to be in Parliament.

http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2010/5/12/4527421.html

nothing like selective quote references, hey punked? Here, let me be equally selective:

Fasken Martineau, a leading international business law and litigation firm, made the following statement concerning comments made today before a House of Common's Committee. In November 2006:

Mr. Nazim Gillani of International Strategic Investments approached Fasken Martineau through one its partners, Alfred Apps, in connection with legal advice/services for International Strategic Investments. Mr. Apps met with Mr. Gillani, received documents from Mr. Gillani and accepted a retainer cheque from Mr. Gillani.

Mr. Apps previously had no knowledge of, or acquaintance with, Mr. Gillani. Very shortly thereafter, Fasken Martineau declined to act on behalf of International Strategic Investments. Mr. Apps so advised Mr. Gillani and returned the retainer to Mr. Gillani.

Fasken Martineau has had no professional dealings with Mr. Gillani or International Strategic Investments in the intervening period.

imagine! A lawyer steering a client to his firm to satisfy legal advice/services considerations. And then, just imagine! A legal firm declines to act on behalf of the client. Just imagine!

[PIK]

Magnum PI ( showed up in a red sports car)says he has evidence that shows apps lied when he said he did not take him on as a client. So we will have to wait until everything comes out.

[punked]

nothing like selective quote references, hey punked? Here, let me be equally selective:

imagine! A lawyer steering a client to his firm to satisfy legal advice/services considerations. And then, just imagine! A legal firm declines to act on behalf of the client. Just imagine!

So you don;t think as Liberal Party president while the Liberals are in committee meetings acting like meeting with this guy is some sort of high crime the Party Present should mention his meeting with him? Seriously? Like I said it is much to do about nothing but the Liberals keep harping on it.

[Topaz]

What exactly did Apps do wrong? Jaffer partner came to see a lawyer paid his retainer and 10 days later was given his money back and he said sorry no deal. Any lawyer, NDP, Conservative or other would have done the same. There's no dirt or story here although the Tories always want to drag other things into THEIR problems and blame them. Didn't work here.

[capricorn]

What exactly did Apps do wrong?

Apps didn't have to do anything wrong. The fact that his name was raised in that commons committee and his law firm had to come to his immediate defence smack in the middle of a nationally broadcast meeting was enough to make ears perk up right across the country. Questions are probably swirling around in the minds of many observers. As Snowdy said, it's all about optics.

There's no dirt or story here although the Tories always want to drag other things into THEIR problems and blame them. Didn't work here.

That's your opinion. I don't think we've heard the last of this.

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Apps is well aware of the matters discussed at the committee and as party president he most assuredly has been following the proceedings very carefully. So the question becomes, did Apps inform anyone in the Liberal Party of his prior encounter with Gillani before it was revealed so publicly? It seems that's pretty important information given all the mud, smut and allegations circling around the committee table. It looked to me like the Liberals were caught with their pants down on this Apps business.

[punked]

What exactly did Apps do wrong? Jaffer partner came to see a lawyer paid his retainer and 10 days later was given his money back and he said sorry no deal. Any lawyer, NDP, Conservative or other would have done the same. There's no dirt or story here although the Tories always want to drag other things into THEIR problems and blame them. Didn't work here.

Those aren't the accusations against him today.

Snowdy was hired to investigate Gillani by a group of investors who suspected he was defrauding them.

He told the committee on Wednesday that Apps, who is a lawyer for the well-known law firm Fasken Martineau, was the "getaway driver" for Gillani and was "in full knowledge of Mr. Gillani's business activities."

Apps strongly refuted the claims on Thursday and said the Conservatives' subsequent line of questioning focusing on Snowdy's allegations were an attempt to smear him and divert attention from themselves.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/05/13/alfred-apps.html#ixzz0nrVfCCvC'>http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/05/13/alfred-apps.html#ixzz0nrVfCCvC

Now if those are lies under oath I expect Mr. Apps will be filing some sort of suit in the future wouldn't you?

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/05/13/alfred-apps.html

[YEGmann]

nothing like selective quote references, hey punked? Here, let me be equally selective:

imagine! A lawyer steering a client to his firm to satisfy legal advice/services considerations. And then, just imagine! A legal firm declines to act on behalf of the client. Just imagine!

I can imagine that.

Your problem though is the time. How long did it take for Mr. Apps to realize that Mr. Gilani is a fraudster? In my imagination two years seems little bit too long.

[msdogfood]

I can imagine that.

Your problem though is the time. How long did it take for Mr. Apps to realize that Mr. Gilani is a fraudster? In my imagination two years seems little bit too long.

Apps NEVER workd for Mr. Gilani!!

[Handsome Rob]

Apps NEVER workd for Mr. Gilani!!

So he alleges. Not being named in the original fiasco doesn't make him innocent, or guilty.

I'm certain as the truth unravels, a morsel of evidence will be uncovered, perhaps incriminating one person, 15 peoples careers will be ruined, and most Canadians will forget about it before the government even finishes dealing with it.

[Molly]

Now if those are lies under oath I expect Mr. Apps will be filing some sort of suit in the future wouldn't you?

"..

someone who is sitting behind the wall of parliamentary immunity, because he's testifying before a commons committee."

You might expect it, but no, most people would not.

[punked]

"..

someone who is sitting behind the wall of parliamentary immunity, because he's testifying before a commons committee."

You might expect it, but no, most people would not.

Parliamentary privilege wouldn't actually apply to him see New Brunswick Broadcasting Co. v. Nova Scotia. So maybe most people don't know anything.

Edited May 14, 2010 by punked