g_bambino Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Ken Dryden....he was decorated in 1972. Said we don't need the monarchy. Quote
nbguyca Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Said we don't need the monarchy. We don't. Quote
Born Free Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 (edited) Said we don't need the monarchy. Oops! Guess that's a big disqualifier then..so were stuck with Rex Murphy.... Edited April 27, 2010 by Born Free Quote
Muddy Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 The Monarchy is part of our history. That can not be denied. Canada has forsaken much of it`s history already since Trudeau.A country must retain it`s history and we have had a very exciting history and our military history has shown we punch above our weight. Our military is steeped in the Monarchy. Just look at the names of our famous regiments. Are we to throw all that out? Do we want to rid ourselves of the Princess Pats and rename it The Chrieten Liberal light infantry? Rid ourselves of the Royal 22 and name it the Rene Leveque smokers club? Do we want to rename the Queens Own Rifles the Mayor Miller Snow Shovellers? The Black Watch to the Multiculural Maybe Canadians? No my friends ,lets keep our history and our constitutional Monarchy.Lest we forget all those who chose to defend this country and lie under foreign soil in France ,Belgium, Hong Kong etc around the world. God Save the Queen.. Quote
Born Free Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 The Monarchy is part of our history. That can not be denied. Canada has forsaken much of it`s history already since Trudeau.A country must retain it`s history and we have had a very exciting history and our military history has shown we punch above our weight. Our military is steeped in the Monarchy. Just look at the names of our famous regiments. Are we to throw all that out? Do we want to rid ourselves of the Princess Pats and rename it The Chrieten Liberal light infantry? Rid ourselves of the Royal 22 and name it the Rene Leveque smokers club? Do we want to rename the Queens Own Rifles the Mayor Miller Snow Shovellers? The Black Watch to the Multiculural Maybe Canadians? No my friends ,lets keep our history and our constitutional Monarchy.Lest we forget all those who chose to defend this country and lie under foreign soil in France ,Belgium, Hong Kong etc around the world. God Save the Queen.. I agree. Quote
g_bambino Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 We don't. Wow. The brilliance of that argument is stunning! I'm sure you'll rally the nation to regicide with such rousing intellect. Quote
g_bambino Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 Guess that's a big disqualifier then..so were stuck with Rex Murphy.... I still have this feeling John de Chastelain will be the Cabinet's recommendation. He has all the classic prerequisites for a Canadian viceroy, which seems exactly the kind of thing the Conservatives would be looking for. Quote
Born Free Posted April 27, 2010 Report Posted April 27, 2010 I still have this feeling John de Chastelain will be the Cabinet's recommendation. He has all the classic prerequisites for a Canadian viceroy, which seems exactly the kind of thing the Conservatives would be looking for. He's a candidate alright... Quote
Dave_ON Posted April 28, 2010 Report Posted April 28, 2010 And since when was direct election the only way to impart legitimacy? Do we all have to vote on our laws every, what?... week, to ensure they remain legitimate? Those facts can be found through any basic internet search and the logic is pretty basic. Why can't the majority of media commentators be arsed to do what used to be expected of them: research and express a sound opinion? Likely because the average Canadian has little to no interest in doing the aforementioned research and therefore the commentators can get away with it by far and in large. Combine this with the fact that the majority of Canadians get their information about how government works from American Media and well, there you have it. I suppose what really tore it for me was the utter lack of public outcry when Stephen Harper had the bald faced audacity to address the nation during the whole coalition fiasco as if he were the President of Canada and actually had the right and authority to do so! Like he were elected directly by all Canadians as the PM and not simply an MP from Calgary which the GG appointed to that office. I was incensed beyond all reckoning and even typing it now gets me a little riled up. That aside I couldn't believe how many people just accepted it as normal or even legitimate! However, I digress. Shatner is a horrible choice and would he actually live out the entire term? He's 79 after all. Is there an actual shortlist at this point or is it all still just speculation? Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
g_bambino Posted April 29, 2010 Report Posted April 29, 2010 I suppose what really tore it for me was the utter lack of public outcry when Stephen Harper had the bald faced audacity to address the nation during the whole coalition fiasco as if he were the President of Canada and actually had the right and authority to do so! Like he were elected directly by all Canadians as the PM and not simply an MP from Calgary which the GG appointed to that office. I share your grievance. A prime minister uttering such untruths to the nation is a serious matter; but, I still found the following funny at the time: In some ways, it's still apt. "These rallies will explain that I control parliament and can do whatever I want?" Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 29, 2010 Report Posted April 29, 2010 Likely because the average Canadian has little to no interest in doing the aforementioned research and therefore the commentators can get away with it by far and in large. Combine this with the fact that the majority of Canadians get their information about how government works from American Media and well, there you have it. I suppose what really tore it for me was the utter lack of public outcry when Stephen Harper had the bald faced audacity to address the nation during the whole coalition fiasco as if he were the President of Canada and actually had the right and authority to do so! Like he were elected directly by all Canadians as the PM and not simply an MP from Calgary which the GG appointed to that office. I was incensed beyond all reckoning and even typing it now gets me a little riled up. That aside I couldn't believe how many people just accepted it as normal or even legitimate! However, I digress. Until I was in my mid-twenties or so (I'm 43 now), I would have taken it for granted that the PM is pretty much the same as the President of the U.S. It's astonishing to me now to remember this. This underscores two of the points you made, so I agree with you. Mind you, I'm no genius--as no doubt many here would quickly agree. But I don't believe my ill-considered and uneducated opinion on this was entirely out of the Canadian norm. Take a general lack of understanding about the system, add to that the worship of Power that unfortunately infects so many of those who DO understand the system...and voila! Monumental ignorance. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Dave_ON Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 I share your grievance. A prime minister uttering such untruths to the nation is a serious matter; but, I still found the following funny at the time: In some ways, it's still apt. "These rallies will explain that I control parliament and can do whatever I want?" Lol I just had a chance to watch this video, it's too hilarious. Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Likely because the average Canadian has little to no interest in doing the aforementioned research and therefore the commentators can get away with it by far and in large. Combine this with the fact that the majority of Canadians get their information about how government works from American Media and well, there you have it... Spot on....there seems to be many erroneous associations and conclusions made simply because of American media volume and vicarious political experience(s) for some Canadians. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Canada isn't alone in this however. Though the problem is probably worse in Canada than in the US, it isn't as if most people understand how the US system works or is supposed to work. Quote
Topaz Posted May 1, 2010 Author Report Posted May 1, 2010 It`s a wonder Harper doesn`t offer the job to Iggy and leave the Libs with no leader and another leadership problem. Keep the opposition busy to worry about Jaffer or the detainees. Quote
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 It`s a wonder Harper doesn`t offer the job to Iggy He should. It would probably boost Liberal approval a few points if he were gone. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Canada isn't alone in this however. Though the problem is probably worse in Canada than in the US, it isn't as if most people understand how the US system works or is supposed to work. Sure, but they sure as hell don't confuse it with Canada's government apparatus. Americans are pretty sure that they do not have a reigning monarch. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Sure, but they sure as hell don't confuse it with Canada's government apparatus. Americans are pretty sure that they do not have a reigning monarch. Well, I'm pretty sure most Canadians know they don't have a president. They simply don't all know what a prime minister, governor general, or a queen does. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Well, I'm pretty sure most Canadians know they don't have a president. They simply don't all know what a prime minister, governor general, or a queen does. Okay...maybe it's because they spend more time thinking about who the president is and what he/she does in a foreign country. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Okay...maybe it's because they spend more time thinking about who the president is and what he/she does in a foreign country. I doubt that as well. It's more because they think only about the prime minister, and mistake the position as being that of a president by a different name. They aren't sure exactly what the Crown in this sense is about. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 I doubt that as well. It's more because they think only about the prime minister, and mistake the position as being that of a president by a different name. They aren't sure exactly what the Crown in this sense is about. Well...gee...maybe the American media machine can help edumacate these mistaken Canadians. How about a West Wing or 24 just with Canadian content? Then these wayward Canadians could see their Prime Minister in action, just like all 'dem fancy Hollywood El Presidentes in action movies, TV shows, or even real presidents giving Thankgiving turkeys a pardon or throwing the first baseball...errr..hockey puck. Can anyone name a non-documumentary film with a Canadian PM as lead character? Not many I bet, but they can name plenty of films with US presidents front and center. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Born Free Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Well...gee...maybe the American media machine can help edumacate these mistaken Canadians. How about a West Wing or 24 just with Canadian content? Then these wayward Canadians could see their Prime Minister in action, just like all 'dem fancy Hollywood El Presidentes in action movies, TV shows, or even real presidents giving Thankgiving turkeys a pardon or throwing the first baseball...errr..hockey puck. Can anyone name a non-documumentary film with a Canadian PM as lead character? Not many I bet, but they can name plenty of films with US presidents front and center. We dont need any entertainment/drama films about Canadian PM's because they dont start wars.... Quote
Jack Weber Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 We dont need any entertainment/drama films about Canadian PM's because they dont start wars.... Don't feed this one trick pony buffoon... Hit the ignore button on him... Silence is wonderful... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 We dont need any entertainment/drama films about Canadian PM's because they dont start wars.... You mean they can't start wars...but they can invade Haiti! So straight away you are left to fill the void with yet more American content. Remarkable..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Posted May 1, 2010 Don't feed this one trick pony buffoon... Hit the ignore button on him... Silence is wonderful... So much silence from you is deafening. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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