Handsome Rob Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Harper+decries+impotence+challenging+pardon+process/2924639/story.html?tab=PHOT Prime Minister Stephen Harper says the government is powerless to stop killer Karla Homolka from applying for a pardon when she becomes eligible this summer -and that 99 per cent of applications are approved by the National Parole Board. Just disturbing. The fact that she was released is disturbing. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Harper+decries+impotence+challenging+pardon+process/2924639/story.html?tab=PHOT Just disturbing. The fact that she was released is disturbing. As Robert Latimer remains locked up ..... Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 21, 2010 Report Posted April 21, 2010 As Robert Latimer remains locked up ..... Can't get a pardon until you've completed your time. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ToadBrother Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Harper+decries+impotence+challenging+pardon+process/2924639/story.html?tab=PHOT Just disturbing. The fact that she was released is disturbing. You can blame the Crown for that one. Sexism worked in her favor. They couldn't believe she could as sick and evil as her husband, so they cut the classic "turn in your hubby and you'll get a lighter sentence" deal, only to find out after the fact that she was a happy and willing partner in Bernardo's crimes. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 this is so much like the anthem issue. She can apply as she likes, it's her right. I can assure you she won't get a pardon. The boogeyman was brought up as a distraction, nothing more. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Topaz Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Not to worry too much, it was reported she is living in the Carribean now. Quote
capricorn Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 She can apply as she likes, it's her right. True, as distasteful as it is. I can assure you she won't get a pardon. The boogeyman was brought up as a distraction, nothing more. Bogeyman or not, it sure looks like a lot of Canadians want the parole system evaluated and revamped. My particular concern is that I don't want sexual predators and other individuals dangerous to the public gaining the freedom of mobility that a pardon extends to them. ---- One more thing, I never understood why Homolka was granted a passport and ended up moving to the Caribbean. "Homolka was released from jail almost three years ago and did not have any limits on her freedom." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071214/homolka_caribbean_071214/20071214?hub=TopStories In extreme cases such as this, freedom to travel abroad should be curtailed. Canada does not welcome hard core convicted criminals from other countries therefore we should extend the same consideration to other countries. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
capricorn Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Not to worry too much, it was reported she is living in the Carribean now. Homolka can go anywhere she wants. Who knows her whereabouts? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) ...One more thing, I never understood why Homolka was granted a passport and ended up moving to the Caribbean. "Homolka was released from jail almost three years ago and did not have any limits on her freedom." http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071214/homolka_caribbean_071214/20071214?hub=TopStories So let me get this straight...they register guns but not sex offenders? Edited April 22, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 So let me get this straight...they register guns but not sex offenders? We do in fact register sex offenders. Quote
Wilber Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Can't get a pardon until you've completed your time. True but it's ironic that Hamolka is free and will get a pardon because of how well she can lie while Latimer is still in the slammer because he refuses to lie. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
ToadBrother Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 So let me get this straight...they register guns but not sex offenders? She served her sentence... her entire sentence as I recall, opting not even to apply for early release. I'm sure it's the same in the States. If you serve your sentence, abide by all conditions after release, there's a point at which you become an unencumbered citizen. The problem, as I previously stated, was that the Crown cut a deal with her to get Bernardo, and through what I could best call positive prejudice towards her, the withholding of some key evidence (videos showing Homolka being a full participant in the rapes, tortures and murders), she basically got off very easy (Bernardo has been classified as a dangerous defender and it's unlikely he will ever be released). Because she pretty much did what the Crown asked her to do as part of the plea agreement, they were forced to abide by it. Since then it's become pretty clear that Homolka is pretty good at manipulating people, and it's probable, at least to me, that she used her gender and played up the notion of the abused wife to lull the Crown into an understandable mistake. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 We do in fact register sex offenders. But apparently not in this case.....the law is new and she was convicted for manslaughter? Canada's new national sex offender registry requires offenders to surrender details about their whereabouts, but Ontario's Ministry of Community Safety says Homolka - who goes by the name Karla Teale - doesn't qualify because she pleaded guilty to two counts of manslaughter http://www.atsnn.com/story/105633.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 That's correct. She's technically not a sex offender. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 That's correct. She's technically not a sex offender. Great....remind me to commit all my sexual assaults and murders in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Peter F Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Great....remind me to commit all my sexual assaults and murders in Canada. No problem. Get a passport and comon up Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Bonam Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 In extreme cases such as this, freedom to travel abroad should be curtailed. Canada does not welcome hard core convicted criminals from other countries therefore we should extend the same consideration to other countries. I disagree. Better there than here. If criminals, after being released, want to leave Canada, I say more power to em. It's up to other countries to keep out those that they find undesirable. Quote
Born Free Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Great....remind me to commit all my sexual assaults and murders in Canada. Maybe you dont understand what a plea bargain is... Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 I disagree. Better there than here. If criminals, after being released, want to leave Canada, I say more power to em. It's up to other countries to keep out those that they find undesirable. I'm not exactly sure how you would do this in Homolka's case. She served her entire sentence, didn't seek any kind of early release, abided by the conditions of her released, and thus, in the eyes of the law was a private citizen again (save for a few details like her DNA being permanently on file). The problem with Homolka's sentence wasn't at its end, but the plea bargain that got her on manslaughter in return for testimony that it is now abundantly clear was heavily slanted towards her husband's culpability, and the investigators, believing they had a sort of classic Stockholm Syndrome situation, just assumed the battered wife bit. While it was theoretically possible, I suppose, for the judge to have overridden the plea bargain, the video tapes which clearly showed her to be every bit the monster Bernardo was didn't surface until too late. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 I'm not exactly sure how you would do this in Homolka's case. She served her entire sentence, didn't seek any kind of early release... Then why did she appear before a parole board in March, 2001? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Dave_ON Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 Great....remind me to commit all my sexual assaults and murders in Canada. How exactly do folks in the US who have never been convicted of a sexual assault end up on the registry? Surely you have to be a convicted, not suspected, sex offender to be registered? Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 22, 2010 Report Posted April 22, 2010 How exactly do folks in the US who have never been convicted of a sexual assault end up on the registry? Surely you have to be a convicted, not suspected, sex offender to be registered? Varies by state, but it happens because of related offenses (e.g. false imprisonment, transporting minors, etc.), juvenile courts, or mental health commitment by "authorities". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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