Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Apropos of this topic, this is a fascinating insight into the minds behind human rights commisions, the kinds of wretched, tormented people who make up anti-racism groups and try to shut down free speech wherever they find it. Constantly offended, self-hating leftist whites who are almost comical in their earnest determination to combat anything which might offend anyone. The central theme of the course was that this twinned combination of capitalism and racism has produced a cult of "white privilege," which permeates every aspect of our lives. "Canada is a white supremacist country, so I assume that I'm racist," one of the students said matter-of-factly during our first session. Johnathan Kay visits an anti-racism class Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Born Free Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 WTF are you talking about? Conspiracy to commit any crime is in itself a crime. If I plot to burn down a Jewish community center in just about any country where the legal system descended from the Common Law, I can be convicted. Waddya think happened to Guy Fawkes and the rest of the band of Catholic terrorists who plotted to blow up Parliament? Bad stuff, that's what. Plotting to commit a crime has been unlawful for centuries. Canada's law books arent centuries old... Quote
Guest American Woman Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) None of the quotes you list would be found to violate the law in Canada. That's your opinion. No more, no less. Most of them are taken out of context anyway, and are meant to be outrageous and even humourous. Hmmmmm...... let's look at a couple of those quotes ..... "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity." Hahahha. Killing leaders. Converting everyone to Christianity. That IS funny. "I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo." Yep. Again, quite humorous. Nothing makes me laugh like the thought of daisy cutters landing on innocent children. They are not, in other words, any kind of attempt to incite violence. Nooooo. Obviously they are funny. And speaking of funny, I laughed so hard when she said "Ottawa" is "Indian for bed-wetters!" Oh the wit. How does she come up with such clever remarks? She must have fifth graders writing for her ..... or a fifth grade mentality. Edited April 3, 2010 by American Woman Quote
Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Canada's law books arent centuries old... Actually, they are. English Common Law was applicable here the moment the English took over, and has never been repealed or replaced. It has only been tweaked, added to and adjusted over the centuries in line with changing customs. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 And speaking of funny, I laughed so hard when I don't think you ever learned how to laugh. Laughing requires a sense of humour. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Mr.Canada Posted April 3, 2010 Author Report Posted April 3, 2010 So at Universities in Canada where they say they search for truth no one is allowed to speak unless they are progressive is the message here. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Guest American Woman Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) I don't think you ever learned how to laugh. Laughing requires a sense of humour. I laugh when something's funny. Like your post, for example .... :lol: Edited April 3, 2010 by American Woman Quote
Born Free Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Actually, they are. English Common Law was applicable here the moment the English took over, and has never been repealed or replaced. It has only been tweaked, added to and adjusted over the centuries in line with changing customs. OK. Please cite the law in 1760 Canada (or even 1860) regarding plotting against minorities. Quote
bloodyminded Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) I don't think you ever learned how to laugh. Laughing requires a sense of humour. Right, which is why there is such a feast of right-wing humour in North America, while so few Canadian and American comedians could be construed as liberal or leftist... ...oh, wait, sorry, it's the other way 'round. (And since we're on the subject, where exactly ARE all the right-wing comedians? I suppose there's a trivial minority of them somewhere; perhaps the geniuses of the "Blue-collar [sic] Comedy Troupe" are somewhat conservative, I'm not sure. But the political Right simply seems to lack humour, while the liberals are very talented at it--the direct and literal opposite of your claim. Interesting.) Anyway, Coulter just isn't that funny. Mind, I DID read her making halfway humorous remarks, once or twice. This puts her, at best, in the same comic-genius category as virtually everybody. A stopped clock, as the saying goes. Either Coulter's admirers are blinded by their own obssessive left-hatred, or they are simply unable to comprehend concepts like "humour." "Dropping daisy-cutter wantonly through the middle East" is simply not funny. Never mind that it offends some people; leave that out; completely aside from that, how exactly is it funny? "Invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"--even IF you agree with the sentiment, it simply does not constitute good humour. Edited April 3, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Right, which is why there is such a feast of right-wing humour in North America, while so few Canadian and American comedians could be construed as liberal or leftist... ...oh, wait, sorry, it's the other way 'round. (And since we're on the subject, where exactly ARE all the right-wing comedians? I suppose there's a trivial minority of them somewhere; perhaps the geniuses of the "Blue-collar [sic] Comedy Troupe" are somewhat conservative, I'm not sure. But the political Right simply seems to lack humour, while the liberals are very talented at it--the direct and literal opposite of your claim. Interesting.) Anyway, Coulter just isn't that funny. Mind, I DID read her making halfway humorous remarks, once or twice. This puts her, at best, in the same comic-genius category as virtually everybody. A stopped clock, as the saying goes. Either Coulter's admirers are blinded by their own obssessive left-hatred, or they are simply unable to comprehend concepts like "humour." "Dropping daisy-cutter wantonly through the middle East" is simply not funny. Never mind that it offends some people; leave that out; completely aside from that, how exactly is it funny? "Invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"--even IF you agree with the sentiment, it simply does not constitute good humour. The "It's just a joke" defence has been used by bigots forever...It's basically an attempt to cajole the offended party into thinking the epithet was'nt really serious,when it really was.It can also be used in the way Coulter tends to use it...Basically as a "STFU and deal with it" response. The only people that would laugh at those types of comments are as socially inept as Coulter herself. Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bloodyminded Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 The "It's just a joke" defence has been used by bigots forever...It's basically an attempt to cajole the offended party into thinking the epithet was'nt really serious,when it really was.It can also be used in the way Coulter tends to use it...Basically as a "STFU and deal with it" response. The only people that would laugh at those types of comments are as socially inept as Coulter herself. I agree. People call her writing "satire," but this displays a misunderstanding of what constitutes satire. She makes outrageous, sometimes horrible claims, and then by dressing it up in a smirk, or adding some withering sarcasm, she allows her admirers to call her a "humourist." Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 OK. Please cite the law in 1760 Canada (or even 1860) regarding plotting against minorities. Is English your second language? As already stated innumerable times, the law against incitement is not specific to crimes against minorities. Plotting to attack anyone is a crime. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Right, which is why there is such a feast of right-wing humour in North America, while so few Canadian and American comedians could be construed as liberal or leftist... ...oh, wait, sorry, it's the other way 'round. It is? Please list the politically correct comedians out there. Anyway, Coulter just isn't that funny. I didn't claim she was funny, though she is good for a laugh on occasion when saying something outrageous. "Dropping daisy-cutter wantonly through the middle East" is simply not funny. Never mind that it offends some people; leave that out; completely aside from that, how exactly is it funny? I don't have to explain Coulter's humour, nor do I intend to. Some people are amused or interested by what she says. Clearly you aren't. Tough cookies. Don't listen to her. Edited April 3, 2010 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 I agree. People call her writing "satire," but this displays a misunderstanding of what constitutes satire. She makes outrageous, sometimes horrible claims, and then by dressing it up in a smirk, or adding some withering sarcasm, she allows her admirers to call her a "humourist." Actually, her admirers call her a political pundit. As for her humour, as Dennis Miller says, one man's Voltaire is another man's Screech. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bloodyminded Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) It is? Please list the politically correct comedians out there. I didn't say "politically correct." I said liberal and leftist. Now, I anticipate your making some uneducated remark about their being no distinction. But look, for one example, at Seth McFarlane, of "Family Guy" fame. A lefty...and the creator of easily the most politically incorrect comedy since "South Park." So...where are all those right-wing comedians? I don't have to explain Coulter's humour, nor do I intend to. Some people are amused or interested by what she says. Clearly you aren't. Tough cookies. Don't listen to her. I am interested, in that I assume there are a number of pantywaisted cretins who agree with her, and this is a fascionating development. But no, I'm not particularly amused...simply because she lacks comic flair. Edited April 3, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 I didn't say "politically correct." I said liberal and leftist. Now, I anticipate your making some uneducated remark about their being no distinction. But look, for one example, at Seth McFarlane, of "Family Guy" fame. A lefty...and the creator of easily the most politically incorrect comedy since "South Park." So...where are all those right-wing comedians? I am interested, in that I assume there are a number of pantywaisted cretins who agree with her, and this is a fascionating development. But no, I'm not particularly amused...simply because she lacks comic flair. Right wing comedians... Dennis Miller... Glenn Beck...,I don't think Beck is trying to be a comedian,though... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bloodyminded Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Right wing comedians... Dennis Miller... Glenn Beck...,I don't think Beck is trying to be a comedian,though... Yes, there's Miller. And possibly Larry the Cable Guy, I'm not sure. Two comics who seem to be receiving diminishing attention. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Yes, there's Miller. And possibly Larry the Cable Guy, I'm not sure. Two comics who seem to be receiving diminishing attention. So,we have 3... 1.Miller...At least he's articulate and funny.I don't always agree with him.MNF was a BIG MISTAKE!!! 2.Beck...Nothing more than a self agrandizing carnival barker 3.Larry the Cable Guy is more of a blue collar,Joe Palooka type with a slice of "Southern Chic"...His shtick has pretty much worn thin... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 So,we have 3... ....and none are from Canada! Imagine that (free speech wise). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 ....and none are from Canada! Imagine that (free speech wise). That might be true,however,I'm not sure the right wing positions of Beck and Miller would play too well in Canada,outside of Alberta,the prairies,and,Fraser Institute fund raising dinners.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) That might be true,however,I'm not sure the right wing positions of Beck and Miller would play too well in Canada,outside of Alberta,the prairies,and,Fraser Institute fund raising dinners.... I guess we will never know...but your observation only confirms that such a possibility is far less in the land of "freedom of expression", not "free speech". Historically, Canadian comics have thrived in the United States....from Rich Little to Tommy Chong. Edited April 3, 2010 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 I guess we will never know...but your observation only confirms that such a possibility is far less in the land of "freedom of expression", not "free speech". Historically, Canadian comics have thrived in the United States....from Rich Little to Tommy Chong. Yep...Larger population.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Yep...Larger population.... Larger in other ways too...."freedom of expression" without fear of arrest and prosecution by the Hate Police. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
William Ashley Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 It would seem that we haven't had free speech in Canada in a very long time and these latest happenings only bolster the claim. First Pro Israel supporters aren't allowed to speak on campuses in Canada. Now Ann Coulter isn't allowed to speak either, yet Canada likes to say we have free speech. Israeli PM is barred from speaking at Concordia and Pro life groups are all but banned. It would seem the socialists who command us to be tolerant aren't very tolerant themselves and are nothing more than thugs who let mob rule. It would seem that Canada has free speech as long as what is said is progressive. Anything but is deemed hate speech...sad. Yeah Canada is getting pretty paranoid - its the political thing. leftists tend to allow free speach - right wingers only let their message get out, one of the difference we are seeing. Right wingers are way more moody and fussy, bunch of female dogs. Quote I was here.
Jack Weber Posted April 3, 2010 Report Posted April 3, 2010 Larger in other ways too...."freedom of expression" without fear of arrest and prosecution by the Hate Police. Sadly...That's probably correct.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
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