Israel and the NDP

[CANADIEN]

The left would rather the Israel to not exist. I guess they feel Jews should just be quiet and happy to be second classs dhimmi's in their own countries. Sad.

You guess, indeed. And are wrong. In particular about the second sentence. But hey, never mind that the Left, or the Right, or the Centre are not monolithic blocks.

Even the more naive elements of the NDP do not represent the "Left", no more than your visceral hatred of it and your own anti-semitism represent the "Right".

[Mr.Canada]

In last years Pride Parade there were many Anti Israel protestors amongst the marchers. What does anti Semitism have to do with pride? Why are anti Semities marching Toronto's gay pride parade?

The marchers of the pride were equating Israel to aparthied S. Africa and to Nazi Germany. This is anti Semitic. No other way to describe it.

South Africa aparthied was a minority controling the majority. Jews are the majority in Israel and are protecting themselves so I don't understand this at all.

They're equating the existance of Israel to Nazi Germany. Six million Jews died at the hands of the Germans and these socialists have the audacity to try to diminish that. Disgusting.

Stating that Israel must be destroyed is Anti Semitism.

Equating Israel to aprthied South Africa is Anti Semitism.

Equating Israel to Nazi Germany is Anti Semitism.

90% of NDP MP's supports Hezbollah which claims the same things I've outlined here. Hezbollah is Anti Semitic. 90% of NDP MP's are Anti Semitic. No other way around it.

People marching calling for the destruction of Israel have no place in the pride parade. I'll be filming this as well and including it in my package to each and every sponser of Pride. I'm sure they have Jewish employees who would be outraged that the company they work is giving money to this hate fuelled display which has nothing to do with gay pride.

By the way Anti Semitism and racism are two differen't things. One can be Anti Semitic and not a racist person. Most on the left aren't racists but most are Anti Semitic as I've illustrated above.

Video of last years Pride Parade in Toronto.

Edited March 11, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[M.Dancer]

Palestine is an apartheid state now. With Arabs treated as second class citizens. I find it funny that people here are against racism and discrimination in Canada but it's fine for Jews to discriminate against Arabs and that is perfectly acceptable. Hypocrisy of the left wing, typical.

If the US stopped sending Billions to Israel every year in cash and military equipment Israel would be gone in less than a year.

It isn't about the general Jewish population. I've said this before. The influence lies with the elite Jews, the ones with power and are mega rich. These Jews have very little to no contact with the everyday Jew you'd see walking on Bathurst for example.

Did you know that any scientific research on the Nazi death camps is forbidden and not allowed. Even picture taking is highly restricted. Are they trying to hide something? If we're to try and learn something from this great tragedy should scientists be allowed to examine the death camps and perform tests on the structures to see exactly where the gas chambers were etc? I'd like to see a National Geographic documentary on such things, it would be interesting as I'm a WWII and history fan.

[CANADIEN]

And you haven't even posted the "best".

[M.Dancer]

And you haven't even posted the "best".

I know..but who has time to sort?

[bloodyminded]

An excellent catch.

[Mr.Canada]

Man I must 100% corrcect in my post here. So now since no one can defeat my proof that I have provided they have moved onto trying to attack me personally. This is awesome.

The issue isn't me. Look at the name of this topic.

Ok now here's where we can look at what I posted and comment on that. Here I link for you.

Edited March 11, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[Mr.Canada]

By 90% of the NDP supporting Hezbollah being a legitimate political party is proving without a doubt that Anti-Semitism has a stranglehold on the left.

[Smallc]

And you haven't even posted the "best".

Don't forget that he wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons...that would be great for Israel.

[Moonbox]

Man I must 100% corrcect in my post here. So now since no one can defeat my proof that I have provided they have moved onto trying to attack me personally.

You posted that it's anti-semitic to criticize Israel because they have the Star of David on their flag. That's false and your logic is terrible to boot. We're trying to show you that your way of thinking doesn't make sense and if you took the time to think them through (we hope) you'd realize it.

Your thought process is a dog's breakfast and it's not worth our time to pick it apart bit by bit and explain it to you, mostly because you're not prepared to listen. There's a reason why you get attacked personally. It's not because we're mean people. It's because your posts are ignorant and we've long given up trying to reason with you. A normal person would probably get the hint when most of their posts get laughed off the forum, but you seem to be a special case.

The worst part is that sometimes you make relevant points, or are trying to. Even when you're on the same side of an argument as me, however, you do more harm than good to the position I'm trying to take because the majority of what you say is just diarhea.

[Mr.Canada]

You posted that it's anti-semitic to criticize Israel because they have the Star of David on their flag. That's false and your logic is terrible to boot. We're trying to show you that your way of thinking doesn't make sense and if you took the time to think them through (we hope) you'd realize it.

Your thought process is a dog's breakfast and it's not worth our time to pick it apart bit by bit and explain it to you, mostly because you're not prepared to listen. There's a reason why you get attacked personally. It's not because we're mean people. It's because your posts are ignorant and we've long given up trying to reason with you. A normal person would probably get the hint when most of their posts get laughed off the forum, but you seem to be a special case.

The worst part is that sometimes you make relevant points, or are trying to. Even when you're on the same side of an argument as me, however, you do more harm than good to the position I'm trying to take because the majority of what you say is just diarhea.

Calling for the destruction of Israel is anti Semitism and shouldn't be tolerated but it is for some reason.

Equating Israel to aparthied South Africa is anti Semitism.

Equating Israel to Nazi Germany is anti Semitism.

Muslims don't believe the real Holocaust took place on one hand then claim they are victims of a fake one is antiSemitism.

All of things took place at the Gay Pride Parade in Toronto Last year as well as at a Anti Israel rally also in Toronto last year. Would you like to see a video of it? I can link it.

Explain how I have this wrong.

[ToadBrother]

Calling for the destruction of Israel is anti Semitism and shouldn't be tolerated but it is for some reason.

Equating Israel to aparthied South Africa is anti Semitism.

Equating Israel to Nazi Germany is anti Semitism.

Muslims don't believe the real Holocaust took place on one hand then claim they are victims of a fake one is antiSemitism.

All of things took place at the Gay Pride Parade in Toronto Last year as well as at a Anti Israel rally also in Toronto last year. Would you like to see a video of it? I can link it.

Explain how I have this wrong.

Because you have said enough anti-Semitic things, or at least things that hint of anti-Semitic sentiments that having you lecture others on anti-Semitism is hypocritical.

[Mr.Canada]

Because you have said enough anti-Semitic things, or at least things that hint of anti-Semitic sentiments that having you lecture others on anti-Semitism is hypocritical.

No no no don't attack me or make this about me. Comment on what I've said, in this thread right there.

[ToadBrother]

No no no don't attack me or make this about me. Comment on what I've said, in this thread right there.

I don't exist to amuse you. You have said some disturbingly anti-Semitic things, so to have you lecturing anyone anywhere on what constitutes anti-Semitism is hypocritical and ludicrous.

You dug this bloody hole, you get yourself out, but don't you for a single bloody moment assume that anyone else here is going to help you.

[Mr.Canada]

I don't exist to amuse you. You have said some disturbingly anti-Semitic things, so to have you lecturing anyone anywhere on what constitutes anti-Semitism is hypocritical and ludicrous.

You dug this bloody hole, you get yourself out, but don't you for a single bloody moment assume that anyone else here is going to help you.

I don't want help. I want people to stay on topic. Mr.Canada isn't the topic. That is ad hominem on your part.

Edited March 11, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[ToadBrother]

I don't want help. I want people to stay on topic. Mr.Canada isn't the topic. That is ad hominem on your part.

It's only ad hominem if it is pertinent to the discussion. Since your feelings on Jews are pertinent, it is both topical and not fallacious.

[Mr.Canada]

It's only ad hominem if it is pertinent to the discussion. Since your feelings on Jews are pertinent, it is both topical and not fallacious.

I am half Jewish number one. I was trolling then and I know that and admitted it. Again I said those things morethan a year ago and I was suspended 3 weeks for it.

[Mr.Canada]

So let's go back to the OP and try again to stay on topic. Here.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Mr.Canada's hole is so deep we can't even see him anymore. Now all we have to do is wait for it to collapse on him.

Edited March 11, 2010 by TrueMetis

[ToadBrother]

Mr.Canada's hole is so deep we can't even see him anymore. Now all we have to do is wait for it to collapse on him.

Maybe it's my gullible nature, but at this point I'm willing to accept Mr. Canada's explanation... for now. I think it shows an incredible lack of maturity, wisdom and decency to take such noxious positions, but I'll put aside his previous comments, under the understanding that I will not be so forgiving a second time. Fool me once and all that...

[Guest TrueMetis]

Maybe it's my gullible nature, but at this point I'm willing to accept Mr. Canada's explanation... for now. I think it shows an incredible lack of maturity, wisdom and decency to take such noxious positions, but I'll put aside his previous comments, under the understanding that I will not be so forgiving a second time. Fool me once and all that...

If he can get himself out of the hole fine. I'm not helping.

[Mr.Canada]

Let's go back and revist my first post in this thread. Here.

[M.Dancer]

Let's go back and revist my first post in this thread. Here.

Sure....

Your post here is pretty close to the NDP position.

Palestine is an apartheid state now. With Arabs treated as second class citizens. I find it funny that people here are against racism and discrimination in Canada but it's fine for Jews to discriminate against Arabs and that is perfectly acceptable. Hypocrisy of the left wing, typical.

If the US stopped sending Billions to Israel every year in cash and military equipment Israel would be gone in less than a year.

Please explain why you haven't endorsed a position that is essentially, yours.

[GostHacked]

Now it's quite obvious to anyone that the socialists, namely the NDP dislike Israel and Jews in general however they veil it behind just calling Israel an aparthied state or by saying they are just being critical of Israel, however one cannot be critical of Israel without being anti Semitic. They are one and the same. Look no further then Israels flag, it's emblazoned with the Star of David. An international symbol of Judeaism.

One can be critical of Israel without being anti-semitic. I don't like Israel, but I don't hate Jews.

[GostHacked]

I am half Jewish number one. I was trolling then and I know that and admitted it. Again I said those things morethan a year ago and I was suspended 3 weeks for it.

Half Jewish??

And you admit to trolling?

And you got suspended?

And you complain about us making attacks on you?

Your track record obviously shows for itself. The reason you won't get the debate you are looking for is no ones fault but your own at this point. You have proven time and time again that you are a troll and post only to amuse yourself. So why should the rest of us post for your amusement? I don't post for my amusement, I post because I want to discuss something and get input from others. You do not seek any of that.

Have fum with your thread. !!!