Afghanistan - failure or success?

[Oleg Bach]

All donations to go to opium addicted Afghans living in musty basements in Kandahar.

[Oleg Bach]

Topic induced by a couple of cups of Vodka followed by a cider chaser.

[maple_leafs182]

a war that was lost before it began.

[Sir Bandelot]

Topic induced by a couple of cups of Vodka followed by a cider chaser.

While living in a musty basement, on Queen Street? At least it's clear to the Afghanis whos f*kin them.

Think about it

[Oleg Bach]

While living in a musty basement, on Queen Street? At least it's clear to the Afghanis whos f*kin them.

Think about it

You underestimate my diginty. I never live in basements - no matter how nice - nor do I tolerate a musty environ - all of my locations have either been old estates on acreage that I mannaged to negotiate..and my place on Queen has a southern exposure..It is a long set up and there is a roof top patio that I decorate with plants and flowers in the spring...this is not my best location nor is it my last.. I know who is as you say f*kin me.. I have full understanding of the system and who runs it and how and why..I may have insulted a few people and embarssed some big dogs but I am not vanquished yet or ever..Think of me as the canary in the capitalist gold mine - Think about it.

[Oleg Bach]

Also: When I witnessed the shock and awe bombing of Baghdad..I made it known to some that this operation will fail and come to a grinding hault - and it did - as will this stupified but profitable Afghani adventure. The coroners office are like curious boys that pool data on bomb shattered corpses that arrive along the highway of heros where road kill is transported and is now up the number 140 that we know of..The Russians lost 70 thousand young men..for nothing..one person wasted is one too many - Finally after reaching their profit goals they are finally going after the opium - I suppose that now some smart person has figured out that the funds for Taliban weapons must be cut off - why did they not do this immediately - Think about it.

[Oleg Bach]

I am not an educated man but I have one gift based not in religion but in physics. VISION...if you do this - that will take place and if you do that this will take place - for every action there is a expected and logical results - no invading force has ever been successful in the internal displacement of a society. This war if you want to call it that is conducted from the boardroom and not from the government - It is a HOBBY practiced by hobbits.

[Sir Bandelot]

Exactly, I was not necessarily saying you are in the musty basement, the irony is that many in our own country are. Also, I know you are well aware aware of who is doing the real screwing around. We have been over that a few times in this forum now...

Some will call Afghanistan a success because it fulfills the purpose of the imperialists. Regardless of how you define it, all wars are a failure of the human mind. Our brains are too puny to understand what else might be.

[Oleg Bach]

Exactly, I was not necessarily saying you are in the musty basement, the irony is that many in our own country are. Also, I know you are well aware aware of who is doing the real screwing around. We have been over that a few times in this forum now...

Some will call Afghanistan a success because it fulfills the purpose of the imperialists. Regardless of how you define it, all wars are a failure of the human mind. Our brains are too puny to understand what else might be.

Understanding that - and agreeing...During my life span I have witnessed and known those that are in the most powerful postions on earth _ I was part of them for a sort time as a young man in love - Now - I see poverty spreading upward into the supposed middle class - My experence living in the core of a city - is not want I chose - some how I was force south like the character in Brave New world - always being a keen observer of people during my childhood and now - I notice that we are not in a civlized state and probably have always been so - My grandfather was executed..for wanting freedom - My father endured the war..and survived - seems that the war is still going on and now I am in the midst of this barbaric event that is disguised as something clean and noble...My level of awareness increase and now I am slightly alienated from the mainstream - but I choose this path - because I am free at all cost.

[Moonlight Graham]

Obama says less than 100 al-Qaeda operating in Iraq. Hmm, since the insurgents won't be beaten, time to leave then.

[bush_cheney2004]

Obama says less than 100 al-Qaeda operating in Iraq. Hmm, since the insurgents won't be beaten, time to leave then.

The US is not leaving Iraq for a long time....get over it.

[Oleg Bach]

The US is not leaving Iraq for a long time....get over it.

Iraq is not the first or last war guided out of the private corporate sphere. First things that corporates do is to disqualify their experenced marshall class because they believe they do not need real soldiers to wage a war - How hard can it be to take down a nation they must have thought. There is no political profit left in Iraq. The only profit is material at the expense of the oldest formerly most civlized nation on earth next to the former Persia...If America wants to profit long term through these rough enterprises they had better learn to barter and bribe rather than set up Frankenstein monsters they later have to remove.

[Oleg Bach]

If you have not notice B C - you and I have single handedly destroyed this site - I can smell it dying as I type - care to venture out to another place and bring them to their knees also? Our very unholy alliance seems to work well - good cop bad cop - or actually two dirty cops in symphony.

[Oleg Bach]

All donations to go to opium addicted Afghans living in musty basements in Kandahar.

Never realized that their was such a drug problem in Afghanistan - that thousands are addicted..so as WE bring about social change that can allow a little girl to go to school are we going to also have harm reduction programs and safe injections sites?

[Oleg Bach]

Now we know why abortion was so effective and needed for the last 30 years. It was to make sure that no smart people were born and they only allowed the mediocre through - you know the types - that enlist in the miltary and follow orders without question - they were becoming rare - these drones.

[Moonlight Graham]

The US is not leaving Iraq for a long time....get over it.

lol i meant Afghanistan

[dizzy]

Now we know why abortion was so effective and needed for the last 30 years. It was to make sure that no smart people were born and they only allowed the mediocre through - you know the types - that enlist in the miltary and follow orders without question - they were becoming rare - these drones.

I haven't yet read a single thing from you that I can agree with, but i respect where you're coming from. I spend a lot of time in leslieville when i'm back home in toronto. I should look you up sometime for a beer.