Wilders on Trial

[bloodyminded]

Yawn

Yes, the pantywaisted little bigots are boring indeed.

[DogOnPorch]

Are you one? Never would haved guessed. There's treatment for your sort, these days.

[bloodyminded]

Are you one? Never would haved guessed. There's treatment for your sort, these days.

No, no; I understand your issues with literacy, so let me clarify for you. I'm talking about anti-free speech ideologues (like Wilders) and the obedient little puppies who adore them.

Dainty little bigots; flowery, delicate cowards.

Edited March 3, 2010 by bloodyminded

[DogOnPorch]

No, no; I understand your issues with literacy, so let me clarify for you. I'm talking about anti-free speech ideologues (like Wilders) and the obedient little puppies who adore them.

Dainty little bigots; flowery, delicate cowards.

So...you're saying you like doilies. Don't worry. I won't think less of you than I already do.

[ToadBrother]

This discussion just isn't working. The thread is about Wilders, and naturally that quickly found its way to a discussion of Islam. You appear to want to discuss Alexander, Napoleon, Hitler, manifest destiny, and other totally unrelated subjects from "the last 500 years". Feel free to make your own threads on these topics. Meanwhile, the facts about Islam haven't changed, whether or not western civilization also has a history of conquest is irrelevant.

Translation: I give up.

My point is that it is the height of hypocrisy for the West, now in a post-Colonial period, to complain about other expansionist powers (and if you think Islam is the only one, you're blind, China is setting up a lovely little trading empire throughout Africa and Latin America) that have the gall to try to do so when the West has lost its nerve.

The Europeans could have solved this at any time by simply shrinking immigration. But they wanted a nice cheap work force, so you have to take the bad with the good. Same thing is happening in the US. In a few generations all that land the US stole from Mexico in the 19th century is going to again be filled with Catholic Spanish speakers of Mexican decent.

You see the Muslims, the Mexicans, the Africans, all these people have one thing we don't, they have incredible birth rates.

Edited March 3, 2010 by ToadBrother

[bloodyminded]

So...you're saying you like doilies. Don't worry. I won't think less of you than I already do.

Is this really all you've got? Smells like concession of defeat.

[DogOnPorch]

Is this really all you've got? Smells like concession of defeat.

Nope...just whackin' you around like a tennis ball. Thwack!

Do concessions really smell like your feet? Yuck.

[bloodyminded]

Nope...just whackin' you around like a tennis ball. Thwack!

Do concessions really smell like your feet? Yuck.

I dunno...they're your concessions, you tell me.

[DogOnPorch]

I dunno...they're your concessions, you tell me.

Thwack!! Nope...pretty sure it's your feet.

[bloodyminded]

Thwack!! Nope...pretty sure it's your feet.

Do you have to literally spell out the noise of yourself beating off to Islamophobes and military fetishism?

[DogOnPorch]

Do you have to literally spell out the noise of yourself beating off to Islamophobes and military fetishism?

Gosh...I didn't figure yourself into fetishes. Does she mind your habits? You know...the whips & chains, etc. Does she tie you up or is it the other way around?

[bloodyminded]

Gosh...I didn't figure yourself into fetishes. Does she mind your habits? You know...the whips & chains, etc. Does she tie you up or is it the other way around?

Like I said...other sites, DoP, other sites. I'm sure you'll find something that caters to you. American troops raping Iraqi detainees, or something.

Edited March 3, 2010 by bloodyminded

[DogOnPorch]

Like I said...other sites, DoP, other sites. I'm sure you'll find something that caters to you. American troops raping Iraqi detainees, or something.

Now that's just sick. Why would you want to rape Iraqi detainees?

[JB Globe]

The difference is that Greeks aren't inflicting terror relating to the conquest of any part of their former empire much less every part.

Quick question - what kills more people worldwide?

Dirty water, or Islamist terrorism?

Edited March 3, 2010 by JB Globe

[JB Globe]

I posted your hero's response back here yonder. Enjoy Israel Apartheid Week. Only once a year, afterall.

Thanks for waving the white flag.

What am I? Like 42-1 lifetime against you?

Do you know what my secret is?

I STUDY THE THINGS I MAKE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT.

Edited March 3, 2010 by JB Globe

[bloodyminded]

Thanks for waving the white flag.

What am I? Like 42-1 lifetime against you?

Do you know what my secret is?

I STUDY THE THINGS I MAKE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT.

It's not f***ing rocket science - it's called "not acting like a fool"

I imagine you will be informed that you are friends with Islamo-terrorists any time now.

That's generally his last word on a subject. Any subject.

[JB Globe]

Nevertheless Islam is a religion with a conqueror as its most revered figure. Thus, it glorifies conquest.

I think you're making an enormous leap of logic here based on a casual observation.

I mean, can you say you're familiar with the whole notion of a "just war" in the Qu'ran? If not - why would you make this observation to begin with?

Also - by your definition, America is a nation that glorifies conquest and war.

[JB Globe]

Wrong...you DO agree that he's opposed to free speech...unless you are a profoundly stupid little man, which you are not. (Of course, this makes you a disingenuous debater, which is a different issue; but you're not stupid.)

You happen to agree, perhaps, that the Koran would be a good book to be banned, if it were possible to do so.

But that IS opposition to free speech.

To say that Wilders is opposed to free speech is not an opinion, DoP; it's an objective reality, based precisely and only on Wilders very explicit words.

I linked them for you earlier on this thread. They're clear.

Oh...and just by the way, every time someone commits the heresy of disagreeing with you (or, even worse, criticizing your shrieky little reactionary heroes) that doesn't make them "friends" with radical Islamists, or that they wish to "hug terrorists."

If you aren't brave enough to debate like an adult, without these little ad hominems that you know are false...then why bother?

There are other sites more appropriately geared to masturbation.

Co-sign.

I'm actually starting to think this guy is a teenager.

[DogOnPorch]

Thanks for waving the white flag.

What am I? Like 42-1 lifetime against you?

Do you know what my secret is?

I STUDY THE THINGS I MAKE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT.

I'm not sure if I have 'won' 42 times against you or not. But if you've been keeping track, I'll take your word for it until further evidence is found.

As for you waving the white flag, I'll just have to give you the same response as the 1st Para gave the Germans at Arnhem...

Re: studying things you observe. Do you also think in your brain?

[JB Globe]

What was that?

Sorry, I thought you said that Ali and Sultan are opportunistic bigots whose "solutions" to Islamism are at-bestj impossible and at-worst totally counterproductive. Add to that the fact that both of them have lied about their past, and yet are using those personal histories to advance their careers.

You sure know how to pick them.

The funny part of all of this is - you could read Daniel Pipes or any other neo-con who specializes in study of Islamist movements, and even though I'd still disagree with a good chunk of what he says - at least he's actually somewhat of a credible academic, and we could actually have an intelligent conversation.

But intelligent conversation means doing away with tactics such as abruptly ending a debate with youtube videos to taunt the other guy the way an 13 year old might do.

You know what? Don't bother reading Pipes, he's over your head and uses big words. Stick with Wilders, Condel, Ali and Sultan - they're great for idiots.

[DogOnPorch]

We haven't the proper facilities to take you all prisoner. I'm sorry...but we can't accept your surrender.

But intelligent conversation means doing away with tactics such as abruptly ending a debate with youtube videos to taunt the other guy the way an 13 year old might do.

You've noticed I think you're worth zero time re: debate. Excellent. Now run-off and put up some more Israel Apartheid Week posters...it's Wednesday and the clock is ticking.

[Peter F]

Co-sign.

me too

[Bonam]

I think you're making an enormous leap of logic here based on a casual observation.

I mean, can you say you're familiar with the whole notion of a "just war" in the Qu'ran? If not - why would you make this observation to begin with?

I don't need to be a Qu'ran scholar to make an observation about the founder of Islam.

Also - by your definition, America is a nation that glorifies conquest and war.

Never said it wasn't. That being said, care to elucidate your chain of logic that led you to this conclusion?

[DogOnPorch]

Bonam: I don't need to be a Qu'ran scholar to make an observation about the founder of Islam.

A Mohammedian tradition of child abuse that continues in many areas of the Muslim world to this day. Perhaps in Holland, as well, if our dear Mapleleaf apologists get their prayers answered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCRj4ZPnYdk

[bloodyminded]

A Mohammedian tradition of child abuse that continues in many areas of the Muslim world to this day. Perhaps in Holland, as well, if our dear Mapleleaf apologists get their prayers answered.

Why do you keep talking this way? About how much those with the temerity to disagree with you "love terrorists" or "want the Islamist radicals to win" and so on?

Oh yeah, never mind...it's because, like all frightened little bullies, you think trolling is the height of wit.