Time For Harper To Resign.

[Shakeyhands]

In 5 years or so, Harper will probably earn 3 or 4 times what he's pulling in now.

I hope he makes it next year!

[whowhere]

That is miniscule as to what a CEO or other executive would get in the private sector. So no Harper is not in it for the money. That's peanuts compared to private sector management/business owners.

Yeah sure, employed CEO's get the money. What makes you think any company would have him as CEO. Being a politician and string pulling is much different then running a corporation. Harper already qualifies for his Government Pension and he has the top job. If you add the other benefits to being PM, I am sure it adds up to more than half a million from the taxpayers. Not only that, maybe he is getting a kickback from the political donations to the conservative party, along the lines of a MLM scheme. After all is said and done he maybe pulling in 1 million a year because he's the PM.

[capricorn]

I doubt it will be so soon shakey. Liberal strategists are working hard to make Ignatieff "comfortable" by plunking him in front of students.

By touring universities, the idea is to put Ignatieff in familiar, comfortable territory, so he can find his political feet, remember what it was like to enjoy the back-and-forth of politics, and as a bonus, maybe collect some potential new-generation Liberals along the way.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/748676--rebooting-michael-ignatieff

If he hasn't found his political feet in 4 years I doubt he can do it in 3 weeks in school gyms. In the meantime, someone who's already comfortable has got to manage this country.

[Bugs]

Being a dumb rube I warned people years ago that with out the co-operation of China - it would be like negotiating with the cook in the kitchen who has an open fire going with the doors and windows shut - eventually the whole house will be filled with choking smoke...I never heard Harper or any western leader mention to China that it's so called development must be stopped...Of course no one would curb the behaviour of China seeing the persons that put Harper in office are making a bundle on trade with this barbaric and smoked out eastern offender...All I can tell from standing on my little rube hill is that everyone is in a conflict of interest and it's international in scope...and Harper along with the other stoolies still take their lead from the American buisness elite who swear they did not shit on the global atmospheric stage.

Be fair, Oleg, I never suggested you were a dumb rube, or that you don't get to have a cri de coeur every once in awhile.

But I did point out to you how Harper has realigned Canadian foreign policy, away from the Lloyd Axworthy approach, into a direction where we actually do some good in the world while accomplishing something good for Canada. I went over the environmental issue. He accepts that it is up to the big polluters to make the deal. He accepts that at least some of these parties will boycott unless participation is voluntary, the targets allow them economic growth, and they don't lose any sovereignty. That's where Canadian diplomacy is effective ... helping to keep the big guys talking,while they start over on an environmental treaty.

On economic issues, he's done what was required to protect Canada's interest in North American car plants, probably as well as could be expected. The economy is so hote that we are actually on the edge of bubbles in real estate, in support of the international approach to fighting the Depression. He has lowered tariffs in the face of a contraction, to encourage trade. I think we have a far more activist diplomacy than we have had in a long time, and far less sanctimonious and insipid. Axworthy put us at the service of the UN, and was perfectly willing to turn sovereignty over to those creeps without even bothering to mention it to we, the Canadian people.

Oleg, in all honesty, it seems you want us to give you a chance to express your idealism, and your dislike of America, and that's what you find wrong with our country's foreign policy. It's self-interested, but it is oriented to moving negotiation processes towards the next step, for the most part. It's staunchly pro-west, where it used to be more conciliatory to terrorist countries ....

[capricorn]

Not only that, maybe he is getting a kickback from the political donations to the conservative party,

Jeez, I'm sure you'll agree this calls for a full public inquiry, followed by a judicial inquiry, followed by a trial with a lengthy jail term.

along the lines of a MLM scheme.

What's that?

After all is said and done he maybe pulling in 1 million a year because he's the PM.

After all is said and done, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Argus]

Be fair, Oleg, I never suggested you were a dumb rube,

Of course not. That would be against the rules....

[Mr.Canada]

Harper will run one more election then step down a year or two after that is my prediction. So as to have a leadership vote at the Conservative Party convention.

I like Harper but I've almost had enough of him tbh and we'll need a change at the top spot by then.

Harper isn't a stupid man, far from it. The Tories remaining in power is the most important thing, more important then his own post. The Liberals must be prevented from regaining power at all costs.

Edited January 12, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[Topaz]

I agree with the resigning but hell would freeze over before Harper would do that!! Harper sees the being the PM as a game, who has the most power among the parties and he plays an excellent payground bully, that`s being unhonourable to the office of the PM of Canada. After leaving office, he`ll probably try to work in the US or write a fiction book about this time as PM. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Parliament+makes+Canada+unstable/2430619/story.html

[bush_cheney2004]

.... After leaving office, he`ll probably try to work in the US or write a fiction book about this time as PM.

I agree...Mr. Ignatieff just skipped the PM part and did this 30 years ago.

[ToadBrother]

Harper isn't a stupid man, far from it. The Tories remaining in power is the most important thing, more important then his own post. The Liberals must be prevented from regaining power at all costs.

Including undermining the supremacy of Parliament, I gather. Beware of anyone who believes the ends justifies the means, particularly when the ends themselves appear to have a decidedly undemocratic slant to them.

[Mr.Canada]

Including undermining the supremacy of Parliament, I gather. Beware of anyone who believes the ends justifies the means, particularly when the ends themselves appear to have a decidedly undemocratic slant to them.

The Tories needs to firmly control the Senate so the Tories can pass the types of laws Canada needs.

I firmly believe that The Liberal Party of Canada will not keep Canada and Canadians safe. I don't trust Ignatieff with being able to say no to certian people who wish to live in Canada. The Liberals will let everyone into Canada with little to no background checks. Sorry this isn't my Canada.

Edited January 12, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[nicky10013]

The Tories needs to firmly control the Senate so the Tories can pass the types of laws Canada needs.

I firmly believe that The Liberal Party of Canada will not keep Canada and Canadians safe. I don't trust Ignatieff with being able to say no to certian people who wish to live in Canada. The Liberals will let everyone into Canada with little to no background checks. Sorry this isn't my Canada.

If the Liberals were so dangerous then why weren't we attacked in the 12 years they were in power? Wasn't it Trudeau who tackled FLQ?

The notion that Liberals are soft on national defence is stupid. Just as much as it is that the Conservatives are fiscally responsible. Contrary to popular belief, liberals of all stripes have presided over far more economic growth than their conservative brethren. The Liberal Party of Canada took the massive deficits of Mulroney, did what needed to be done and started running surpluses. Same with Clinton.

International diplomacy of security and protecting Canadians is more than just wanting to bomb everything that screams allah akhbar. Indeed, it's just as likely to endanger Canadians as protect them. The approach of the Bush administration only served to strengthen Al-Qaeda according to CIA and FBI reports. Why in the world would we want to do the same only to invite more attention from fundamentalists?

[ToadBrother]

The Tories needs to firmly control the Senate so the Tories can pass the types of laws Canada needs.

I firmly believe that The Liberal Party of Canada will not keep Canada and Canadians safe. I don't trust Ignatieff with being able to say no to certian people who wish to live in Canada. The Liberals will let everyone into Canada with little to no background checks. Sorry this isn't my Canada.

In short order, you believe undermining Parliament is necessary. The ends justify the means.

[whowhere]

That is a very Yankish post. I am surprised you did not quote the former now deceased head of the ARA - you know - Charely Heston - Moses! What if Harper did say - that's it I can no longer serve in the best interests of Canadains? What if he simply just walked away? Would the nation collapse? Would Layton bring the nation to ruin? Would Ignatieff be a total disaster domestically and abroad? What if we just let our corporations run the show and forget about that dreary grey rock town of Ottawa...what a place _ I visited there about 35 years ago and could not imagine such a place sustaining life let alone leadership.

Oleg because you like Harper so much you have inspired me to start this thread

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=15676

[blueblood]

If the Liberals were so dangerous then why weren't we attacked in the 12 years they were in power? Wasn't it Trudeau who tackled FLQ?

The notion that Liberals are soft on national defence is stupid. Just as much as it is that the Conservatives are fiscally responsible. Contrary to popular belief, liberals of all stripes have presided over far more economic growth than their conservative brethren. The Liberal Party of Canada took the massive deficits of Mulroney, did what needed to be done and started running surpluses. Same with Clinton.

International diplomacy of security and protecting Canadians is more than just wanting to bomb everything that screams allah akhbar. Indeed, it's just as likely to endanger Canadians as protect them. The approach of the Bush administration only served to strengthen Al-Qaeda according to CIA and FBI reports. Why in the world would we want to do the same only to invite more attention from fundamentalists?

Oh Trudeau what a prize he turned out to be.

Created the massive deficits, during Mulroney's time he got eaten alive by the interest rates.

Then there is the war measures act. I don't know of a tory PM who invoked that little daisy in peace time, but I can name one Liberal PM. For Martin discussing soldiers on the streets, he shouldn't by throwing rocks from a glass house.

So sticking your head in the sand and bending over is your way to stop bad people? Glad you weren't leading the free world in 1939.