Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Those terms are meaningless to the average citizen. Debt and credit are terms the average guy lives and dies with. Most people buy things on credit that is where most of the problem stems from. The purchase of disposable goods with credit. Quote
Alta4ever Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 The Finance Minister says that because of household debt that he may have to change the mortgage rules, instead of 5% down it will have to go up but to what? 7% 10% ?? This will hurt first time buyers or it may force them to buy a really cheap house, that will cost more to fix up. There's also the HST tax next year in Ont and BC and this will probably slow down the housing industry again.He also said something about getting rid of the 35 year mortgage. I understand why he's doing it but it seem one bad nnews after another. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/091221/business/cbusiness_us_mortgages I had 10% down on my first morgage, it didn't hurt me it actually helped. I had lower CMHC fees, more equity in the home and ended up spending less on interest. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
ToadBrother Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 This is Mr. Canada we're talking about, some days he's right, some days he's left, most of the time he's wrong. I think the phrase "your claims are so bad, they're not even wrong" comes to mind. Quote
Alta4ever Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 Those terms are meaningless to the average citizen. Debt and credit are terms the average guy lives and dies with. Most people buy things on credit that is where most of the problem stems from. The purchase of disposable goods with credit. I completely agree with this, if it will appreate in value buy on credit, if it does not save up to buy it. If its a consumable and purchased on credit it should be paid off within a year if not, you can't afford it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Wilber Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I completely agree with this, if it will appreate in value buy on credit, if it does not save up to buy it. If its a consumable and purchased on credit it should be paid off within a year if not, you can't afford it. I agree with this in general but there can always be exceptions. There are items that don't appreciate but may not be discretionary. If you need a reliable vehicle to get to work or specific tools to do your job, your furnace or some other necessary appliance quits, you may have no choice. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Alta4ever Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I agree with this in general but there can always be exceptions. There are items that don't appreciate but may not be discretionary. If you need a reliable vehicle to get to work or specific tools to do your job, your furnace or some other necessary appliance quits, you may have no choice. I agree I don't see that as a consumable more of a asset like a home, but over extravigance in these items can also have a harmful effect. You may only need say a half ton truck for work, but you buy a Duramax 3500 loaded instead. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Wilber Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I agree I don't see that as a consumable more of a asset like a home, but over extravigance in these items can also have a harmful effect. You may only need say a half ton truck for work, but you buy a Duramax 3500 loaded instead. On the other hand if you can afford it, a diesel pickup makes sense as they hold their value better than gas powered trucks. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Topaz Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Posted December 22, 2009 The rush to buy homes in Toronto is to beat the HST tax next year. I heard on the news some realestate sellers bought up some of the condos that were up for sale and after Ottawa and Ontario made the deal, they had to unload them so they wouldn't be caught with the debt. I think you'll see the housing market slow down especially on new homes unless of course money is no problem to some people when buying. Quote
Alta4ever Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) On the other hand if you can afford it, a diesel pickup makes sense as they hold their value better than gas powered trucks. very subjective words, afford it, meaning can afford the monthly payment now but it streches your budget? Edited December 22, 2009 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Wilber Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) very subjective words, afford it, meaning can afford the monthly payment now but it streches your budget? That's why "can" was bold. The only real reason to own a diesel pickup is if you haul something heavy. That's why I have one. Edited December 22, 2009 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Alta4ever Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 That's why "can" was bold. The only real reason to own a diesel pickup is if you haul something heavy. That's why I have one. so we agree? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Wilber Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 so we agree? Pretty much. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 That's why "can" was bold. The only real reason to own a diesel pickup is if you haul something heavy. That's why I have one. A sensible choice when low end torque is on the menu. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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