With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies?

[Machjo]

From http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm

ANTI-SEMITISM BY POLITICAL ZIONISM

Although Zionists and others dispute it, the undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I. This aroused hatred of Jews in general among many non-Jews. While a prisoner in 1924 in the fortress of Lansberg on the River Lech, Hitler wrote his Mein Kampf. When he became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, he was assisted by Goebbels, Roseberg and Streicher. From them came the declarations, “The Jews of Germany caused the defeat of Germany in the 1914-1918 war; the Jews of Germany were responsible for the terrible conditions in Germany that followed the war; the Jews of Germany are foreigners and they wish to remain foreigners; they have no loyalty to the country of their birth; they are not human; they are filthy dogs; they have no right to intrude into Germany’s affairs; there are too many Jews in Germany.

As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

Additional words from the vivid imagination of this dreamer, from p. 68 of Part I of his Diary.

So anti-Semitism, which is a deeply imbedded force in the subconscious mind of the masses, will not harm the Jews. I actually find it to be advantageous to building the Jewish character, education by the masses that will lead to assimilation. This education can only happen through suffering, and the Jews will adapt.

Hateful views of Jews as being subhuman did not have to be invented by Nazi theorists such as Hitler, Goebbels, Rosenberg and Streicher. This ideology was simply adapted from statements of political Zionists such as those found in the writings of the Zionist Yehezkel Kaufman in 1933.

In 1920 there were statements hostile to Jews expressed at Heidelberg University. These statements, arguing that Jews of Germany had caused the turmoil that followed the war; that the Jews of Germany had nothing in common with Germans, and that Germans had the right to prevent the Jews of Germany from intruding into the affairs of their volk were not made by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, but by Nahum Goldmann, who went in to become the President of the World Zionist Organization and head of the World Jewish Congress, and, indisputably, the most influential political Zionist in the world, second only to the Prime Minister of the State of Israel.

In 1921, Germans in Germany were told that:

“We Jews are aliens… a foreign people in your midst and we… wish to stay that way. A Jew can never be a loyal German; whoever calls the foreign land his Fatherland is a traitor to the Jewish people“.

Who spoke these vile words? It was Jacob Klatzkin, the second of two political Zionist ideologists in Germany at the time, where the Jews of Germany were enjoying full political and civil rights. It was he who had advocated undermining Jewish communities as the one certain way of acquiring a state. “They had no qualms concerning tearing down the existing Jewish communities.”

Who spoke in a public address at a political Zionist meeting in Berlin and declared that “Germany… has too many Jews”? Was it Hitler or Goebbels? No, it was Chaim Weizman, later to become the first President of the State of Israel. This address was published in 1920, and, thus, four years before Hitler had even written Mein Kampf.

How many Zionist Jews know of this vicious treachery uttered by these senior political Zionist leaders, these apostates from the Jewish People? At the Nuremberg Trials of Major War Criminals, Nazi propagandist, Julius Streicher testified: “I did no more than echo what the leading Zionists had been saying”, it is clear that he had told the truth.

In addition to Hitler, Rosenberg, Goebbels and Streicher, many other Nazi leaders used statements from Zionists to validate their charges against the Jews of Germany. Such are the efforts of Zionist leaders to this very day to maintain a high degree of anti-semitism in order to enable them, in feigned horror, to then point to anti-semitism to support their idolatrous and anti-Jewish cause. In 1963, Moshe Sharett, then Chairman of the Jewish Agency, told the 38th Annual Congress of the Scandinavian Youth Federation that the freedom enjoyed by the majority of Jews imperiled Zionism, and at the 26th World Zionist Congress, the delegates were told that the Jew is endangered by the easing of anti-Semitism in the United States “We are endangered by freedom” he declared.

Edited December 10, 2009 by Machjo

[M.Dancer]

So?

The opinions of a very small sect who have their own particular peculiar reasons for denying the validity of Israel.

...They're waiting for the Messiah to come and proclaim the state..

[Oleg Bach]

Anti-Muslimism - IS a from of anti-semitism also - both groups are semites. Having said that you must understand that Zionism has nothing to do with religion or God...I have no problem with Jews or Muslims - I do take issue with those that are crimminals that use religion to hide behind - it's very unscrupulous and quite cowardly - but out lawing international crimminls seems impossible - why we can't even build a jail to house the Hells Angels let alone get rid of Zionism or Muslimism.

[Oleg Bach]

So?

The opinions of a very small sect who have their own particular peculiar reasons for denying the validity of Israel.

...They're waiting for the Messiah to come and proclaim the state..

Might as well get it over with - the Semites both Arab and Jew are now offically a state - it's up to them to make friends with their brothers and stop thinking one is humanly superiour over the other - I formally proclaim peace - and Merry Christmas...after all Christmas is a Semite holiday - They should grant the messiah what he is due - even one day a year would be helpful - There is no Messiah coming - been and gone - get over it and use the wisdom that is already granted _ love your enemey.

[Oleg Bach]

Also - Zionist don't like Jews, Christians or Muslims. They are much like the old crowd the ruled Chicago if you know what I mean...How many times do I have to rant the fact that orgainized crime has almost taken over the world - almost..what is a disgrace is the we have allowed ourselves to be decieved and are conditioned to ammoral behavior - that it's okay - It is NOT okay!

[Rue]

"the undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I..

The above comments are not undeniable facts, but they do in fact form part of someone's subjective opinion and subjective opinions of course are most certainly subject to other opinions that may disagree with some or all of the opinion stated.

The above subjective opinion is also illogical. Even if there were a sect or sects that subscribe to the author's subjective opinion of what revolutionary secular or apostate means, the fact that sect is revolutionary, secular and/or apostate does not "contribute" to its hostility.

What might contribute to its hostility is an individual or individuals who disagree with its opinions and who then choose to react with hostility.

The above is a classic case of blaming a target of hostility for in fact the person or persons engaging and directing the hostility.

The person engaging in the hostility is the one who in fact contributes the hostility.

The person expressing the unpopular opinions does not contribute to the hostility unless they themselves engage in hostility towards others.

The so called revolutionary or secular or apostate views which are subjective descriptions dependent on the writer's political perspective and bias are distorted by his own bias as being assumed to incite intolerance.

Nothing in the essay indicates the revolutionary, secular apostate opinions suggested their believers were engaging in hostility to anyone, rather in fact, simply engaging in free speech.

I would be curious where in these so called religious, secular and apostate people, words indicate they were threatening others with violence.

The above article is ludicrous.

It presupposes simply because one has an opinion that is different then another's it is culpable for any violent and intolerant reactions to it.

That is illogical. The fact I disagree for example with the writer's contentions and find them a crock of excrement does not mean the writer contributed to the hostility I might be perceived to exhibit in my reaction to his comments.

I am responsible for the perceived hostility that comes from my reaction, not the writer.

This idea where we blame the victim of hatred because they have the nerve to express an opinion different then someone else is a crock.

A rational man when reading another's views he disagrees with does not become enraged or hostile unless and until such time as those opinions might suggest he is about to be physically atacked and even then a reasonable logical man is presumed to use only reasonable force to defend himself and not take the law into his own hands.

This blame the victim pretext misses the basic point, we are all responsible for the actions we engage in-saying someone else made us do what we did is an attempt to delegate our responsibility to others.

Next we should cover all women head to toe because it contributes to their sexual assault and all people with beards or religious garments should do away with them because it contributes to the hostility directed at them when they

refuse to shave and wear turbans or yamachas.

The above is a classic anti-semitic canard-Jews brought the holocaust on themselves for not knowing their place.

Change the name of the group and it applies to many targets of hostility, i.e., blacks down South, certain tribes in Africa targetted with genocide, Armenians, Kampucheans, Burmese, Armenians, Irish, Ukrainians, and so on.

[eyeball]

The above is a classic anti-semitic canard-Jews brought the holocaust on themselves for not knowing their place.

The above also seems like a classic case of carelessly hoping/wishing/praying for a galvanizing event to occur.

Edited December 12, 2009 by eyeball

[Rue]

The above also seems like a classic case of carelessly hoping/wishing/praying for a galvanizing event to occur.

Agree.