ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Fascism has no relationship with communism whatsoever. Fascism is a CONTRARY ideology to communism... Fascism is ELITIST... it is ANTI-EGALITARIAN. Fascists are not egalitarians ... they are Darwinists (real darwinists... unlike communists who merely pay lip service to Darwin and then categorically reject the implication of his theories of biological evolution by swallowing such nonsense concepts as human equality). No, not real Darwinists. Evolutionary theory was not a social theory. Darwin never said it was. The only thing Social Darwinists have in common with Darwinism (or, the theory of natural selection) is the word "Darwin". Darwin never advocated running on a society on principles of natural selection, and none of the early researchers of natural selection did either. It was a bunch of early 20th century crackpots from a rather stunningly bizarre array of ideologies and religious backgrounds that did. But thank you for confirming once again that you are a racist. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) no i'm in the Lenin, Marx, Trotsky Kamenev were all jews camp(marx was even the son of a long line of rabbis)... that many of the partisan leaders and framers of communism were in one from or another of secret society... "la ligue des justes", adam Weishaupt's know well known illuminati and perfekt tibilisten. I'm also saying that 53% of the NKVD was jewish, and the Jewish over representation in all important government branches was very important... after all soviet russia (a supposedly anti-nationalistic, anti-religious country, designaded the Jewish Autonomous Oblast as a gift where jews could maintain their tradition and culture... a perk given to NO OTHER people... Well, to be fair there were plenty of Jewish folk on the White side of the Civil War and plenty of non-Jewish folk in the Bolshevik party. Not to mention the one that counted certainly wasn't a Jew. Seriously...he knew Lenin wouldn't last (bad heart) and he hated Trotsky with a passion that few men have had over time...maybe Alexander re: Darius is a comparison. Once Lenin was pickled...Trotsky's life was forfeit. Edited October 23, 2009 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 I always found it amusing that during Russia's darkest hour Stalin hauled out the old system of ranks for the army and took power away from the commissars. Not to mention re-opened the churches. Stalin didn't run though...much to his credit. Archangel was looking pretty good 'round about Nov 1941. He didn't run, but he certainly considered it. When the Germans crossed the border, he went into seclusion. But Stalin, whatever he was, was mindful of Napoleon's old adage. When Napoleon was challenged over awarding medals to war heroes for such things being fundamentally against the ideals of the Revolution, he replied "It is baubles such as this that men are lead." Quote
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 The Soviets had the bread baskets occupied by the Nazis. Once again you have skillfully shown you don't know buigger all about anything.....nor do you have any idea growong up in the 50s... soveits also OWNED THE BREADBASKET IN UKRAINE from 1928 to the beginning of the war... and what did that do ? oh yeah the Ukraine Holodomor, and artificial famine ... which destroyed 7 to 10 million humans, including 3 million children... now please... I beseech you, be quiet about your dear commie pals... you don't know them as well as I do... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 He didn't run, but he certainly considered it. When the Germans crossed the border, he went into seclusion. But Stalin, whatever he was, was mindful of Napoleon's old adage. When Napoleon was challenged over awarding medals to war heroes for such things being fundamentally against the ideals of the Revolution, he replied "It is baubles such as this that men are lead." I agree. He was drinking heavily. Fascinating fellow from an objective POV...from up close he must have been nothing short of terrifying. Robert Duvall did a great version of Stalin back a few years...I always imagined it was about the closest to reality. Did you catch it? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 soveits also OWNED THE BREADBASKET IN UKRAINE from 1928 to the beginning of the war... and what did that do ? oh yeah the Ukraine Holodomor, and artificial famine ... which destroyed 7 to 10 million humans, including 3 million children... now please... I beseech you, be quiet about your dear commie pals... you don't know them as well as I do... Tell you what. YOu tell us how you feel about six million Jews being murdered by the Nazis, and then we'll talk about Stalin's various attrocities. I personally have already told you that I agree that Stalin killed millions. You have returned that by trying to invoke every anti-Semitic Holocaust Denying piece of handwringing you could manage. In short, your a Jew-hating racist Holocaust Denier who is trying some bizarre attempt at shaming your opponents. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 I agree. He was drinking heavily. Fascinating fellow from an objective POV...from up close he must have been nothing short of terrifying.Robert Duvall did a great version of Stalin back a few years...I always imagined it was about the closest to reality. Did you catch it? Probably the thing that best summed Stalin up was Kruschev's word to his opponents who sent him into early retirement; "If I had been Stalin, there wouldn't even be wet spots where you stood." Quote
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 No, not real Darwinists. Evolutionary theory was not a social theory. Darwin never said it was. The only thing Social Darwinists have in common with Darwinism (or, the theory of natural selection) is the word "Darwin". Darwin never advocated running on a society on principles of natural selection, and none of the early researchers of natural selection did either. It was a bunch of early 20th century crackpots from a rather stunningly bizarre array of ideologies and religious backgrounds that did.But thank you for confirming once again that you are a racist. Real Dawrinist either way would tell you that: if men do not act ... nature will... either we maintain the quality of our own human stock or nature will do it for us... Egalitarians (american liberals and Communists) have had their play at world domination for th past 60+ years... what has come of it... impending pandemics, grotesque overpopulations, the world wealth gap, record poverty. and summering racial and cultural and of course RELIGIOUS hostilities, combined with nuclear missiles, a global environmental crisis, and dangerous cosmos... Nature never will and never has tolerated the survival of WEAKLINGS. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
DogOnPorch Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Probably the thing that best summed Stalin up was Kruschev's word to his opponents who sent him into early retirement; "If I had been Stalin, there wouldn't even be wet spots where you stood." Luckily for Russia, his seclusion allowed several brilliant generals to come to the forefront of the War in Russia...Konev, Zhukov, Chuikov, Titov and a few others. Normally, he would have meddled... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Tell you what. YOu tell us how you feel about six million Jews being murdered by the Nazis, and then we'll talk about Stalin's various attrocities. I personally have already told you that I agree that Stalin killed millions. You have returned that by trying to invoke every anti-Semitic Holocaust Denying piece of handwringing you could manage.In short, your a Jew-hating racist Holocaust Denier who is trying some bizarre attempt at shaming your opponents. I feel betrayed, because any sympathy I have for the countless innocent Jewish victims is soured by what Jews are doing today in our countries and in Israel. Israel managed to break international statutes and Geneva conventions aimed at criminalizing the Nazis... and they are never held to account. I also don't like how jews have such sharp elbows and are so willing to use their power to shove aside remembrance of any competing genocides and mass murders, lest it compete with their own victimization. But I do look at the sordid and bizarre holocaust with much anguished disgust and of course deep empathy for the innocent people who where dealt away there. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Real Dawrinist either way would tell you that: if men do not act ... nature will... either we maintain the quality of our own human stock or nature will do it for us... Uh, no. The real secret to a species success is variation, not someone's subjective monoculture. In fact, selective breeding for "desirous" traits as we define them can have profoundly unhealthy effects on fitness. Egalitarians (american liberals and Communists) have had their play at world domination for th past 60+ years... what has come of it... impending pandemics, grotesque overpopulations, the world wealth gap, record poverty. and summering racial and cultural and of course RELIGIOUS hostilities, combined with nuclear missiles, a global environmental crisis, and dangerous cosmos... Economics is not a genetic trait. Nature never will and never has tolerated the survival of WEAKLINGS. Which is obviously deluded. Nature tends not to favor the less fit, but it is statistical game, and even delirious traits can be selected for if they have some positive outcomes. You don't know shit about evolution, my racist friend. Edited October 23, 2009 by ToadBrother Quote
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) Uh, no. The real secret to a species success is variation, not someone's subjective monoculture. In fact, selective breeding for "desirous" traits as we define them can have profoundly unhealthy effects on fitness.Economics is not a genetic trait. Which is obviously deluded. Nature tends not to favor the less fit, but it is statistical game, and even delirious traits can be selected for if they have some positive outcomes. You don't know shit about evolution, my racist friend. variation and poly culture are contrary and contradictory concepts to EQUALITY... thank you again for validating my point.. And yes economics can be derived from a human population's genetics... the Australopithecus, for instance could never have built ingenious complex societies like that of ancient china... while they were technically "human anthropoids", they did not have the asme mental faculties to allow it. there is also genetic drift, but by and large the only exception to the dictum "the strong do what they want, the weak suffer what they must" are incorrect perceptions of strength and weaknesses. and i'm not your friend buddy... Edited October 23, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
ToadBrother Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 (edited) variation and poly culture are contrary and contradictory concepts to EQUALITY... thank you again for validating my point.. Your first sentence makes no sense, and I didn't validate your point. Your point was that somehow selective breeding for whatever traits you subjectively decide are superior creates a superior animal. And yes economics can be derived from a human population's genetics... the Australopithecus, for instance could never have built ingenious complex societies like that of ancient china... while they were technically "human anthropoids", they did not have the asme mental faculties to allow it. Oh good grief. That is just plain absurd. Economic status is a social construct. there is also genetic drift, but by and large the only exception to the dictum "the strong do what they want, the weak suffer what they must" are incorrect perceptions of strength and weaknesses. I have no idea what you're trying to say here. "Strength" and "weakness" in your little magic incantation there are fundamentally subjective, at any rate. And that's the point, and why Social Darwinists have always talked out of their asses. They take fundamentally economic notions and try to equate them with biological notions, and its a false comparison. and i'm not your friend buddy... Quite right, I don't make friends with moronic racists who know nothing about economics, biology, who hate blacks, Jews and everyone else that they weak little minds grow terrified of. As I said, I pity your family. How they must loathe you. Edited October 23, 2009 by ToadBrother Quote
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 Your first sentence makes no sense, and I didn't validate your point. Your point was that somehow selective breeding for whatever traits you subjectively decide are superior creates a superior animal. no only to muddled half educated person... You see to have MONOCULTURE you presume the existence of ONE RACE or ONE GENETIC CLUSTER of a particular specie... which is actually precisely what Egalitarians and "race doesn't exist people" are telling us... so by saying this you concede that the races are indeed UNEQUAL and "DIFFERENT"... since genetic differentiation is based on it... Which is what I've been saying and why you've been calling "racist" and all manner of other ad hominem abusives.... so welcome! fellow racist idiot! hahaha we agree! Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 I have no idea what you're trying to say here. "Strength" and "weakness" in your little magic incantation there are fundamentally subjective, at any rate. And that's the point, and why Social Darwinists have always talked out of their asses. They take fundamentally economic notions and try to equate them with biological notions, and its a false comparison. Its true.... but i haven't told you about my ideas on what constitutes strength or weakness to begin with.... and actually I'd be tented to tell you that white people are perhaps inferior in dawrnian standards... since their genetic cluster is not likely to continue to live on for very long... The only thing that matters is SURVIVAL... and on that question there can be no doubt about Asian survival superiority and black survival superiority... although these too are subjective. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 23, 2009 Report Posted October 23, 2009 It is either heaven or hell - IN heaven we live in hell it's about SURVIVAL! So this world is what you make it. Quote
lictor616 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 It is either heaven or hell - IN heaven we live in hell it's about SURVIVAL! So this world is what you make it. this world is a hell for egalitarians and religionists, and other fugitives of reality. Those who understand the world appreciate it for what it is. There is nothing wrong with the natural order and the cosmos. no amount of praying or affirmative action will change nature. Liberals can never win, because what they want isn't within the realm of possibility... there is no such thing under the sun as equality... and we should be thankful for that. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 this world is a hell for egalitarians and religionists, and other fugitives of reality. Those who understand the world appreciate it for what it is. There is nothing wrong with the natural order and the cosmos. no amount of praying or affirmative action will change nature. Liberals can never win, because what they want isn't within the realm of possibility... there is no such thing under the sun as equality... and we should be thankful for that. Nature and living things in the world are the only wealth. It's a wonderful place this earth..and it is a heaven...There is a bit of scripture (not big on religion these days by the way) "There are violent men that try to take heaven by force" _ These are the brute that bring about a hell in this dimension.. Whether you believe in goodness or God is not that issue - the issue is that those who play God cause all the problems - Humans are bright but they are NOT gods. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Nature and living things in the world are the only wealth. It's a wonderful place this earth..and it is a heaven...There is a bit of scripture (not big on religion these days by the way) "There are violent men that try to take heaven by force" _ These are the brute that bring about a hell in this dimension.. Whether you believe in goodness or God is not that issue - the issue is that those who play God cause all the problems - Humans are bright but they are NOT gods. Yes in conclusion..those that play god are my inferiours - I know my place in nature and the cosmos. No tree is the same height..and it is good to judge and discriminate...to discriminate between what brings about life and what causes suffering and death. We are brain washed into believing we should never judge - I have kids that do not fair well some times because they have been condition though a morally neurtal system - that seeks to animalize all of us. Quote
lictor616 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Nature and living things in the world are the only wealth. It's a wonderful place this earth..and it is a heaven...There is a bit of scripture (not big on religion these days by the way) "There are violent men that try to take heaven by force" _ These are the brute that bring about a hell in this dimension.. Whether you believe in goodness or God is not that issue - the issue is that those who play God cause all the problems - Humans are bright but they are NOT gods. you realize that gods are figments of the imagination right... you might want to be careful mixing gods and nature together... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I look at nature as the proof of a miraculous existance of some great intelligence - call it God if you wish or don't call it anything. Look at the void of space and the millions of barren planet...sorry my friend - we are the miracle that the religious nuts try to make unattainable. Quote
lictor616 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 I look at nature as the proof of a miraculous existance of some great intelligence - call it God if you wish or don't call it anything. Look at the void of space and the millions of barren planet...sorry my friend - we are the miracle that the religious nuts try to make unattainable. miraculous? why not call it santa claus? upon what evidence do you base this silliness? Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 miraculous? why not call it santa claus? upon what evidence do you base this silliness? The fact that with our couple of pounds of grey jello incase in a boney sphere. Imagine - we on this speck of sand actually understand eternity...this pretty niffty...or the various and beautiful forms of life that exist...I love my plants and they love me...That's pretty neat..Or the fact that Jupiter or our moon is place in such a spot that it sucks up all projectiles coming from way out there, from detroying us! I know of a young man who is a tough kid...old before his time - a hard core atheist..and he is dying of lung cancer - The fool refuses to submit to nature and it's power - to God - He would rather die than submit to the power of postive thought and God...Me personally - I am taking all the help I can get - fanciful or not. Quote
jbg Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Communism is the economic dominance of government and bureaucracies. It follows that to IMPLEMENT COMMUNISM... you NEED A HIERARCHY, a ADMINISTRATIVE "bourgeousie"... how else can a country organize such programs as "nationalization"?Communism is the enemy of colonialism, racism, xenophobia and hegemony. It is the path to elevating the working class over the bourgeousie. Communist societies are heaven, capitalism hell.Mao Mao Mao Tse Tung!!! Workers of the world unite!!! Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
lictor616 Posted October 24, 2009 Report Posted October 24, 2009 Communism is the enemy of colonialism, racism, xenophobia and hegemony. It is the path to elevating the working class over the bourgeousie. Communist societies are heaven, capitalism hell.Mao Mao Mao Tse Tung!!! Workers of the world unite!!! communism did nothing to end racism, it only increased the causes of it... communist nations were always very xenophobic of non communist ones, communism was ALL about world colonialism and hegemony.. yup 0 out of 4... and why don,t you move to china if that's how you feel? bet you'd love being a worker in china... nice 16 hour work shifts.... they'll show you the place you want and deserve. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
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