Remiel Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I'm no nazi, not even a member of NDSAP... I reject nazism... I cannot believe you, for the same reason that I could not believe a man who tells me he is a vegetarian over a nice steak dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I cannot believe you, for the same reason that I could not believe a man who tells me he is a vegetarian over a nice steak dinner. nazism is a specific ideology for a specific period in a specific region. I can no more be a nazi then I can be Japanese Imperialist... or White Russian... That being said I believe in the nobility of Europe, and do wish to see what was given to us by our Western Ancestors and European folk to be strengthened or at least preserved. I believe Western Culture to be superior to all others. I do not think that diversity (of the kind we today are forced to celebrate) is a strength, and do not subscribe to the orthodoxy of Political Correctness. I wish to build a viable future for the posterity of "my people".. If that makes me a Fascist or a nazi to you... then I am a fascist and a nazi and that is that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 nazism is a specific ideology for a specific period in a specific region. I can no more be a nazi then I can be Japanese Imperialist... or White Russian... That being said I believe in the nobility of Europe, and do wish to see what was given to us by our Western Ancestors and European folk to be strengthened or at least preserved. I believe Western Culture to be superior to all others. I do not think that diversity (of the kind we today are forced to celebrate) is a strength, and do not subscribe to the orthodoxy of Political Correctness. I wish to build a viable future for the posterity of "my people".. If that makes me a Fascist or a nazi to you... then I am a fascist and a nazi and that is that... Jews have been a part of this "superior Western culture" for over 2000 years, and share values and ideas that are generally in accord with said culture. I agree that people of European descent have every right to a viable future as a distinct people, something which is all too often denied in "politically correct" discourse. However, scapegoating the Jews as the source of Europe's problems is completely wrong and unnecessary. It is your unreasoned, untruthful, and hateful comments about Jews that make several of the above posters call you a Nazi, not your lack of conformity to political correctness (which is shared by a wide range of posters on this board). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 That's funny - a 'republican clone' guess you know nothing about Harper and the CPC or the U.S. Republicans,. In his own words: Full text of Stephen Harper's 1997 speech Updated Wed. Dec. 14 2005 9:20 PM ET But the Progressive Conservative is very definitely liberal Republican. These are people who are moderately conservative on economic matters, and in the past have been moderately liberal, even sometimes quite liberal on social policy matters. In fact, before the Reform Party really became a force in the late '80s, early '90s, the leadership of the Conservative party was running the largest deficits in Canadian history. They were in favour of gay rights officially, officially for abortion on demand. Officially -- what else can I say about them? Officially for the entrenchment of our universal, collectivized, health-care system and multicultural policies in the constitution of the country. At the leadership level anyway, this was a pretty liberal group. This explains one of the reasons why the Reform party has become such a power. The Reform party is much closer to what you would call conservative Republican, which I'll get to in a minute. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...51214/20051214/ So! As National Citizens Coalition leader, Harper voiced his opposition to P.C. social policies: gay rights, abortion rights, national health care and multiculturalism -- a Republican clone by any other name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 My conservative religious dogma? I'm an integral atheist, and wouldn't dream to ever vote for the conservatives. I support fully NONE of the current canadian parties. I've been called a political atheist as well.. Yet you adopted all of the markers of movement conservativism by identifying every conceivable enemy as a "liberal." Incidentally, I have nothing but reprimands for Rush and the republican party in general, they are no worse then the democrats but also... no better (they are cancers to our common wealth). They are little men, with no vision, who only chatter about the prospect of the next 10 minutes... they are irrelevant. But they are worse than the Democrats! Rush's brand of conservatism only benefits the wealthiest segment of the population, while it tries to cloak itself as a populist movement by appealing to race, religion, nationalism and greed of the average citizen. The Germans were indeed assaulted by world Jewry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_Declares_War_on_Germany) No, the Germans were empire-building, and trying to topple England as the dominant naval power before WWI broke out. And the problem with Jewry! Give me a break! Germany's Jewish problem was the same as Europe's Jewish problem -- their religious dogma taught that Jews were holdouts who rejected Christ and the Christian gospel. But they were not content with the priests' assurances that Jews burn in hell at the end of their days on Earth -- they were intent on stamping them out for 1500 years. Martin Luther wrote a book that became an inspiration for Hitler: "Of the Jews and their Lies," where he advocated burning all of their synagogues, driving the Jews out of Christian lands, and killing those who remained behind. So, after centuries of pogroms and ghettos, because of resistance to religious indoctrination -- who was assaulting who? The Germans were quite right to be fearful of communists... (who were busily murdering 10 million ukrainian kulaks in 32-33 in orgies of bestiality that we like to forget here in the west). Which was Soviet Russia under Stalin. It's hard to imagine that the German communists could have been worse than Hitler's fascist party! And who could begrudge Germany for thinking themselves a colony of english and american capitalists? They were! Ever heard of the versailles conditions? They were awful damn anxious to go to war with England in the first place. They should have checked to make sure they had superior firepower to start with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Jews have been a part of this "superior Western culture" for over 2000 years, and share values and ideas that are generally in accord with said culture. I agree that people of European descent have every right to a viable future as a distinct people, something which is all too often denied in "politically correct" discourse. However, scapegoating the Jews as the source of Europe's problems is completely wrong and unnecessary. It is your unreasoned, untruthful, and hateful comments about Jews that make several of the above posters call you a Nazi, not your lack of conformity to political correctness (which is shared by a wide range of posters on this board). hogwash. It is a truism that you cannot understand Jews without pondering an adequate and typical sample of their Babylonian Talmud, which reveals their mentality. That is the one indisputably authentic key to the operation of minds and instincts that are so utterly alien to our Western Ethos as to seem incredible until proved by irrefragable evidence, the divinely authoritative writings that the predatory people kept from its prey as long as it could. There are several good comprehensive explanations of the authoritative Talmud, mainly in German, but they do not have the instant cogency of photographic reproductions of pages from the Jews' own official translation, which omits only a few drastic passages that are found in the early printed editions of the text and cited in the compendium by Joseph Caro, *Sulhan 'Aruk* (1564). Even if you are still reluctant to accept the verdict of sagacious Romans, who finally realized that the Jews are the *hostes generis humani*, you can no longer doubt when you read in their own words proof of the insane megalomania which teaches that only Jews are human beings, while Europeans and all other races are animals, like sheep and pigs, whom Jews are divinely authorized to kill whenever they think it expedient -- animals who, by their nature, can own no property, so that whatever is in their possession belongs by right to the first Jew who takes it. And when you have learned that, read on, so long as you can stand the stench. Now about my unreasoned comments... *you did not address them by the way*, the people I mentioned (Baruch, Rothschild, Knapp, the Warburgs etc) are real entities... they aren't figments of my imagination... there really is a historical record on them that completely substanciantes my uncontroversial claims (uncontroversial to historians that is). If you wish to deny the evidence and if you wish to deny the fact that where ever they (the Jews) went, they succeeded in triggering a hostile reaction, and wish to take the position that any hatred shown to Jews is always irrational and always never because of their own acts... then I cannot reason with you. Even today the Asper family (created by the late Izzy "israel" Asper) controls about 64% of all printed, televised and airwave media in canada ALONE... never mind the Rabinovitch brothers who own CBC... and i could go on listing many many more. - it comes to the recurring question... if its true is it hate? Let me make it clear that I detest no one... I wish harm to no group. i'm only interesting in what is true, regardless if it offends... I apologize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Yet you adopted all of the markers of movement conservativism by identifying every conceivable enemy as a "liberal."But they are worse than the Democrats! Rush's brand of conservatism only benefits the wealthiest segment of the population, while it tries to cloak itself as a populist movement by appealing to race, religion, nationalism and greed of the average citizen. No, the Germans were empire-building, and trying to topple England as the dominant naval power before WWI broke out. And the problem with Jewry! Give me a break! Germany's Jewish problem was the same as Europe's Jewish problem -- their religious dogma taught that Jews were holdouts who rejected Christ and the Christian gospel. But they were not content with the priests' assurances that Jews burn in hell at the end of their days on Earth -- they were intent on stamping them out for 1500 years. Martin Luther wrote a book that became an inspiration for Hitler: "Of the Jews and their Lies," where he advocated burning all of their synagogues, driving the Jews out of Christian lands, and killing those who remained behind. So, after centuries of pogroms and ghettos, because of resistance to religious indoctrination -- who was assaulting who? Which was Soviet Russia under Stalin. It's hard to imagine that the German communists could have been worse than Hitler's fascist party! They were awful damn anxious to go to war with England in the first place. They should have checked to make sure they had superior firepower to start with! dude, g'head and educate yourself on WW1... here's a handy recapitulation documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=60...q=WW1&dur=3 the Russians marched east and where allied with france.. which meant the Germans were sandwiched by 2 enemies... they had no choice but to attack France to avoid being swallowed. They also sought to rid themselves of their tarif and British restrictions. And incidentally, the Germans were 3 days awway at one point of signing over their victory over Britain and France... util "of course" Berny Baruch and his agent Colonel House captured the dem party to make woddy wilson go to war... listen to the defector: Benjamin l Freedman on this subject. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5224839731207532170 Edited June 25, 2009 by lictor616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Even if you are still reluctant to accept the verdict of sagacious Romans, who finally realized that the Jews are the *hostes generis humani*, you can no longer doubt when you read in their own words proof of the insane megalomania which teaches that only Jews are human beings, while Europeans and all other races are animals, like sheep and pigs, whom Jews are divinely authorized to kill whenever they think it expedient -- animals who, by their nature, can own no property, so that whatever is in their possession belongs by right to the first Jew who takes it. You forgot the part where they need to drink the blood of Christian children on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 You forgot the part where they need to drink the blood of Christian children on a regular basis. and you forgot the part where rabbis suck the blood form the freshly severed foreskin of a new born baby! http://www.gilad.co.uk/Images/circumscision_75.JPG oh but rest assured these are all lies! yes the blood sucking thing never happened! lets keep just denying anything remotely bizarre about that tribe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 dude, g'head and educate yourself on WW1... here's a handy recapitulation documentary: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=60...q=WW1&dur=3 the Russians marched east and where allied with france.. which meant the Germans were sandwiched by 2 enemies... they had no choice but to attack France to avoid being swallowed. They also sought to rid themselves of their tarif and British restrictions. And incidentally, the Germans were 3 days awway at one point of signing over their victory over Britain and France... util "of course" Berny Baruch and his agent Colonel House captured the dem party to make woddy wilson go to war... Okay, so bashing Jews and acting as an apologist for German nationalism and the subsequent rise of Nazism is your hobby. I'm not going to pursue this very far since it has nothing to do with the topic theme of left wing political parties using religion to counter the right wing use of religion....nevertheless, you can't give Imperial Germany a free pass in the leadup to WWI with the excuse that they were caught between two rival European powers. For one thing, just prior to German unification, the Prussian Empire sowed the seeds for enmity with France by invading and occupying Alsace-Lorraine on the excuse that up to half the people living there were of German extraction, and challenged England's naval superiority in an attempt to become the dominant colonial empire in Africa. Germany had been expecting to go to war with France and Russia decades before the outbreak of WWI, since the Kaiser had the Schlieffen Plan that proposed an invasion of France through Belgium drawn up after the Franco-Prussian War. German leaders realized that they were surrounded, so they planned a war strategy that would enable them to fight a war on two fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Okay, so bashing Jews and acting as an apologist for German nationalism and the subsequent rise of Nazism is your hobby. I'm not going to pursue this very far since it has nothing to do with the topic theme of left wing political parties using religion to counter the right wing use of religion....nevertheless, you can't give Imperial Germany a free pass in the leadup to WWI with the excuse that they were caught between two rival European powers.For one thing, just prior to German unification, the Prussian Empire sowed the seeds for enmity with France by invading and occupying Alsace-Lorraine on the excuse that up to half the people living there were of German extraction, and challenged England's naval superiority in an attempt to become the dominant colonial empire in Africa. Germany had been expecting to go to war with France and Russia decades before the outbreak of WWI, since the Kaiser had the Schlieffen Plan that proposed an invasion of France through Belgium drawn up after the Franco-Prussian War. German leaders realized that they were surrounded, so they planned a war strategy that would enable them to fight a war on two fronts. whaddya mean I can't give them a pass? Would any of the nations in that conflict (Britain, america, Russia, Ottoman Turks, France) not have retaliated if a clear danger threatened them? The instigators were the russians, along with the Russian backed Serbs, followed with ottoman pressure. Britain were interferer's and a danger for the commonwealth of ALL involved... they certainly can't claim innocence in this! The Germans were secondary movers there... oh and incidentally Germany had a very large and happy Jewish population in those days, in fact anti semetism was LOWEST in Germany... Britain was already trying to relocate ALL EUROPEAN JEWS in palestine at that time... so the "bashing jews thing"... doesn't work in this instance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanchateau Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I'd like to see the official stats reduced on a paper... "Three-quarters of Canadian voters who attend evangelical churches (such as Baptist, Mennonite and Pentocostal) opted for the Conservative Party of Canada. That's the same proportion of white American evangelicals who supported the Republicans. In general Protestants, who nominally make up 30 per cent of the population, tend to split their vote between the two major parties. But even mainline Protestants have been among those shifting toward the Tories. In 2008, 64 per cent of church-going Protestants (as opposed to those who rarely attend) chose the Conservatives, compared to 51 per cent in 2004." http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun...-in-canada.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanchateau Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and every major "communist" was Jewish... Marx and Lenin were atheists. Marx's parents were Jews who converted to Protestantism. Marx was baptized a Lutheran and eventually became an atheist. At no point did he practice Judaism. Lenin had one Jewish grandparent but his parents were Christian and he became an atheist. You seem to buy into Hitler's theory that having a Jewish ancestor makes one a Jew. Does having a Christian ancestor make one a Christian? Does having a Muslim ancestor make one a Muslim? Christianity, Judaism and Islam are religions, not races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Marx and Lenin were atheists. Marx's parents were Jews who converted to Protestantism. Marx was baptized a Lutheran and eventually became an atheist. At no point did he practice Judaism. Lenin had one Jewish grandparent but his parents were Christian and he became an atheist. You seem to buy into Hitler's theory that having a Jewish ancestor makes one a Jew. Does having a Christian ancestor make one a Christian? Does having a Muslim ancestor make one a Muslim? Christianity, Judaism and Islam are religions, not races. Marx belonged to La Ligue Des Justes, who on top of being part the masonic religion, also subscribed to cabalistic hocus pocus. Marx was no atheist. He was anti-clerical, but hardly atheist... read up on his conception of Christian Socialism... ALso please notice the communism implicit in primitive Christianity... "All men Are created equal"- sounds a lot like the socialistic nonsense so often parroted by leftists alike... and howabout "blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth" sounds like "redistribution of wealth" to me! Marxism is so close to a religion. SO close to Christianity... SO completely devoid of reason and so utterly based on fantasy and emotions... Marxist dread the necessities the recquirements and the obligations of RATIONAL COGNITION... they are fugitives from reality... silly idealists... precisely like their Christian counterparts. Marx knew how to manipulate the "religious residue" and social superstitions that Christianity brought upon European peoples, Marx after all comes from a long line of RABBIS that have keen knowledge on another Jewish dogma: Christianity... does being jewish denote race? Ask jews! they certainly see themselves as a distinct race. What with all the panting and endless wailing about "anti-semetism" which for some inexplicable reason doesn't mean "antipathy towards semites" but rather antipathy towards jews! Look at how special interests groups are capable of prostituting the english language to produce euphemistic NONSENSICAL words that have no literal meaning.. but that's another subject. There is overwhleming evidence that the Lenin's and Marx's did not themselves drink the verbal hooch they gave their gullible goyim (ie: sub human non-jews) Communism is a conspiracy.. not a political ideology. Its results proved it conclusively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg Bach Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Communist idealogs - have no money to begin with..to fund communism - you need a quiet and elite bunch of conspiring capitalists - all socialism is funded by capitalists...look at our liberal Canada - the liberals are dupes who do the dirty work for banksters..and most don't even know that - facist bankers laugh when they see us scrurry about dealing with left right and center..It is evident that who ever controls the money supply controls all -- These keepers of the bread (lords) - are the grand crafty parsites - that feed on us....instead of feeding us...the best you can to is wait for them to age and expire...I can wait - that's my duty to outlive them all - as should it be yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanchateau Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 does being jewish denote race? Ask jews! they certainly see themselves as a distinct race. So Marx and Lenin, who you claim are Jews, would have seen themselves as part of a distinct Jewish "race"? And all European Jews would see all Asian Jews and black African Jews as part of the same Jewish "race"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lictor616 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) So Marx and Lenin, who you claim are Jews, would have seen themselves as part of a distinct Jewish "race"?And all European Jews would see all Asian Jews and black African Jews as part of the same Jewish "race"? yes absolutely, read about the "covenant", they really do see themselves as a separate race ordained by god to rule the world. I don't consider them a race... but they themselves sure did. Edited June 29, 2009 by lictor616 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normanchateau Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I don't consider them a race... but they themselves sure did. When did they stop considering themselves a race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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