Machjo Posted May 31, 2009 Report Posted May 31, 2009 Nice try. Practical consideration in how the government respects a right is not a limit to that right.And what you are trying to do is justifying removing the linguistic rights of Canadians, or render them meaningless. Won't work. So if I walk into a government office in Vancouver insisting that they service me in Inuktitu, what rights do you opine I should have? Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 So if I walk into a government office in Vancouver insisting that they service me in Inuktitu, what rights do you opine I should have? If English and French is the essence of Canada, it is because the formation of Canada went from east to west and from French to English. To me the essence of Canada is not about being able to receive public services in French in Vancouver but about making sure the French heritage is kept alive there like everywhere in Canada. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 If English and French is the essence of Canada, it is because the formation of Canada went from east to west and from French to English. To me the essence of Canada is not about being able to receive public services in French in Vancouver but about making sure the French heritage is kept alive there like everywhere in Canada. Why would some who speaks the common and universal language INSIST on being served in another language - unless they are a disruptive prick - and doing it out of de-constructive spite! Quote
CANADIEN Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Why would some who speaks the common and universal language INSIST on being served in another language - unless they are a disruptive prick - and doing it out of de-constructive spite! You mean why should anyone object to a Canadian getting government service in the Canadian language of his/her choice. unless the objector is an ignorant prick doing it out of spite? Edited June 1, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
CANADIEN Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 So if I walk into a government office in Vancouver insisting that they service me in Inuktitu, what rights do you opine I should have? Nice try at making it sound likes it's all language everywhere or only one language - pereferably one invented by you, The right for Canadians to be served in English, French or a First Nation languages by the Government of Canada should be the governing principle, and the cases when the numbers are not sufficient to ensure this should be the exception. Not the other way around. Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Why would some who speaks the common and universal language INSIST on being served in another language - unless they are a disruptive prick - and doing it out of de-constructive spite! Because deconstructivism is the essence of postmodernity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstructivism Quote
Argus Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 It is aactually tthat standard already. As for Chinese - sorry, but it is not a Canadian language. You are suggesting Chinese-Canadians are not as Canadian as aboriginal Canadians or French Canadians? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 You are suggesting Chinese-Canadians are not as Canadian as aboriginal Canadians or French Canadians? They are very much so. Their language is not part of Canada's identity. Quote
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Why would some who speaks the common and universal language INSIST on being served in another language - unless they are a disruptive prick - and doing it out of de-constructive spite! With an estimated 7-10% of the world's population beleived to be at least functional in English, I'd hardly call it universal. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Jerry J. Fortin Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 English is the language of business and science, or at least widely accepted in these fields. What claims does French have? Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 English is the language of business and science, or at least widely accepted in these fields. What claims does French have? The language of business and science is math and French are very strong in (fundamental) math. Quote
M.Dancer Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 English is the language of business and science, or at least widely accepted in these fields. What claims does French have? Love... paramour... Menage a trois... Bon Vivante... Co-Vivante... Fiance Coq Au Vin Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Smallc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 English is the language of business and science, or at least widely accepted in these fields. What claims does French have? French is still present in business...less so in science....but you're right, English has taken it's place. That doesn't cahnge the reality that Canada was founded by two large language groups that still exist today. Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 French is still present in business...less so in science....but you're right, English has taken it's place. That doesn't cahnge the reality that Canada was founded by two large language groups that still exist today. Also Canada can be much more than a business or a scientific experiment. Quote
Smallc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Also Canada can be much more than a business or a scientific experiment. Canada is much more than that. People get so tied up with worrying about money that they forget all of the things that this country stands for and the dream of a nation that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I think it's time that more people realize where we cam from and where we are in relation to the rest of the world. Every single one of us is extremely lucky to live in Canada....I am thankful for it every day. Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 Canada is much more than that. People get so tied up with worrying about money that they forget all of the things that this country stands for and the dream of a nation that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific. I think it's time that more people realize where we cam from and where we are in relation to the rest of the world. Every single one of us is extremely lucky to live in Canada....I am thankful for it every day. To me, Canada is still like a gold mine where too much Canadians behave like exclusive exploiters. Quote
Smallc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 To me, Canada is still like a gold mine where too much Canadians behave like exclusive exploiters. I think too many Canadians forget that we live in a gold mine. Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 I think too many Canadians forget that we live in a gold mine. They may need to forget that because gold mines are dangerous places to live when no sharing agreement is there to curb greed. Quote
Smallc Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) when no sharing agreement is there to curb greed. There is a sharing agreement....the people with more gold don't seem to like it though. Edited June 1, 2009 by Smallc Quote
benny Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 There is a sharing agreement....the people with more gold don't seem to like it though. A real equalization formula would aspire to reach Third World populations. Quote
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 English is the language of business and science, or at least widely accepted in these fields. What claims does French have? I myself have read research findings available in other languages, sometimes even available in a few languages, yet not yet available in English. I also remember reading an article a few years ago mentioning that a scientists is more likely to publish a positive finding in English, but not a negative one. So there's even the risk that scientific literatrue available in English is unbalanced. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 They are very much so. Their language is not part of Canada's identity. And what about Canada's First Nations' and Inuit languages? Why are they not among Canada's official languages? Are they less equal than either English or French? It would seem to me that they would be more a part of this land's identity than either English or French. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 A real equalization formula would aspire to reach Third World populations. Agreed. Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 It would seem that Nunavut is not the only territory that disagrees with Ignatieff: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090531/...ench_aboriginal Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
Machjo Posted June 1, 2009 Report Posted June 1, 2009 I don't think there's much denying that the way our history books are currently written ('We' discovered the new world, 'we' are based on two founding nations, etc. is very ethnically biassed). A more accurate perspective would be that the Europeans were discovered off 'our' shores, and two foreign powers established a new nation on 'our' land. As the alternative song goes: 'Oh Canada, our home on native land...' Quote With friends like Zionists, what Jew needs enemies? With friends like Islamists, what Muslim needs enemies?
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