Melanie_ Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Having said that honor killings are on the rise in the Muslim community in Canada over the last 10 years. Cite. Just one little cite. Show some sort of relevent data to support this. Otherwise, its just something your toaster told you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in KW Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 it begins with the acknowledgment of honor killings within the Muslim community by the socialist left wing who are more interested in being politically correct than protecting Canadians. I don't think anyone denies that there are honor killings, or that some of them happen in Canada. There are certainly some extremists out there in the Muslim community, just as there are in the Christian community. I don't like them any better than you do. And I certainly hate the idea of an honor killing as much as everyone else does. Anyone who murders someone should go to jail, for as long as the law allows. I find your thread very ironic: You're paranoid (or at least frightened) by the religious right-wing of the muslim world. That's funny to me, because I find the Christian religious right to be very similar in many respects to the Muslim religious right. Stop painting all Muslims with the same brush, lest ye also be painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Statistics of all kinds aren't looked at a year by year basis. They are looked at collectively over a greater time span. Having said that honor killings are on the rise in the Muslim community in Canada over the last 10 years. Yet no citations to back up this claim and Mr. Canada seems to focus on Muslim honour killing while ignoring everyone else. Why does Mr. Canada tolerate non muslim honour killings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 EDIT- I speak the truth folks. The numerous threads including this one with the OP as false as it is otherwise. The Red Cross stat you gave comes to mind as well as your spurious claim of scientific examination of holocaust sites being forbidden. You inavraibly fail to provide back up for your ridiculous spurious claims which more than anything shows you speak as little truth as possible. At very best you speak nonsense, at worst, you speak half baked tin foil hat racist stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Statistics of all kinds aren't looked at a year by year basis. They are looked at collectively over a greater time span. Having said that honor killings are on the rise in the Muslim community in Canada over the last 10 years. Then cite the stats on the number of honour killings in Canada in the past 10 years. You state they're on the rise; show the numbers that prove it. This is the same community that wanted Sharia Law enacted in Canada. Liberal Premier of Ontario refused to say NO and protect Canada's women and children and instead chose to sit on the fence. Let me say that again, the Leader of Ontario, a Liberal, refused to shoot down Sharia Law proposals and he almost passed them. He abolished religious arbitration mechanisms in Ontario. If he had, right now Ontario would be a Muslim State, this is very dangerous. As women would be treated as cattle, homosexuals would be killed, abortion and divorce made illegal. Reality check here. The proposal was for tribunals acting as arbitrators in CIVL litigations. If Sharia Law was enacted by the Liberal Premier of Ontario, this would be the likely following scenario. After the Muslim takeover of Ontario there would have been a mass exodus of many of the marginalized people. Muslim takeover of Ontario, right. You mean like the Jewish takeover, right? After all, there have been Jewish tribunals acting in cvil litigations in Ontario for decades. Think of all the stonings they have ordered... EDIT- I speak the truth folks. Good. Mind writing it once in a while? Edited February 4, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 CANADIEN. I do speak the truth, sort of, I'm not completely wrong nor right sorta on the line of whats tolerable to the general public. I enjoy behaving in this manner, it catches people off guard. If I was espousing racism or hatred I'd be banned by now, instead I point out the uncomfortable truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) CANADIEN. I do speak the truth, sort of, I'm not completely wrong nor right sorta on the line of whats tolerable to the general public. I enjoy behaving in this manner, it catches people off guard. If I was espousing racism or hatred I'd be banned by now, instead I point out the uncomfortable truth. Like the one about the Holocaust, right. And I am still waiting for your numbers on honour killings. Edited February 4, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 CANADIEN. I do speak the truth, sort of, I'm not completely wrong nor right sorta on the line of whats tolerable to the general public. I enjoy behaving in this manner, it catches people off guard. If I was espousing racism or hatred I'd be banned by now, instead I point out the uncomfortable truth. No, you cherry pick and exaggerate. In short you're being dishonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris in KW Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 CANADIEN. I do speak the truth, sort of, I'm not completely wrong nor right sorta on the line of whats tolerable to the general public. I enjoy behaving in this manner, it catches people off guard. If I was espousing racism or hatred I'd be banned by now, instead I point out the uncomfortable truth. Mr Canada, I've begun to suspect that you're actually a lefty. This is the only way your posts make sense to me: You're posting all the most blatantly stupid right-wing nutcase opinions you can think up, because you WANT all the rational people on these forums to show how silly these opinions are. Anyway, I hope that's the case. If so, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 No, you cherry pick and exaggerate. In short you're being dishonest. This doesn't make what I say untrue. I exaggerate as much as your beloved CBC does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 This doesn't make what I say untrue. I exaggerate as much as your beloved CBC does. You think I formulate opinions based on the CBC? I don't give a damn what the CBC says. I actually get most of my news from the BBC, though I admit a perverse addiction to the National Post as well. At any rate, you can't provide citations or figures, because there are none that exist that demonstrate what you're trying to say. As I said, here in BC, the only honor killings I'm aware have taken place within the Sikh community. So where's your diatribes against the Sikhs? Let's face it, you hate Muslims, and will concoct any ol' piece of crap in some pathetic and dishonorable attempt to undermine them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 You think I formulate opinions based on the CBC? I don't give a damn what the CBC says. I actually get most of my news from the BBC, though I admit a perverse addiction to the National Post as well.At any rate, you can't provide citations or figures, because there are none that exist that demonstrate what you're trying to say. As I said, here in BC, the only honor killings I'm aware have taken place within the Sikh community. So where's your diatribes against the Sikhs? Let's face it, you hate Muslims, and will concoct any ol' piece of crap in some pathetic and dishonorable attempt to undermine them. Has their been any studies on the number of honour killings in Canada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 This doesn't make what I say untrue. I exaggerate as much as your beloved CBC does. A rare admission of ... exaggeration ... from Mr. Canada. Thank you. Now, the best posters here say things that are more extreme than the CBC (on the right or the left) without having to exaggerate. Argus is one who comes to mind as someone with views that wouldn't be heard on the radio, but are usually backed with solid arguments. So, Mr. Canada, now that you have admitted what you are, why not join the rest of us in the pool of reasonables ? The water's fine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Has their been any studies on the number of honour killings in Canada? Is there even a universal definition of what constitutes an honor killing? If a guy finds out his wife is cheating on him, and kills her, is that an honor killing? Is a murder-suicide over, say, the loss by a parent of child access, an honor killing? It seems to me the term "honor killing" is a very cultural one. We seem to have no problem calling these types of murders when they happen in Muslim, Sikh and Asian communities an "honor killing", but when it comes to someone from a Western community, then all potential cultural connotations are removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 honor killings are on the rise in the Muslim community in Canada over the last 10 years source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Has their been any studies on the number of honour killings in Canada?According to your post, they're on the rise. How did you come to that conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 According to your post, they're on the rise. How did you come to that conclusion? At least 1 news report a month. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanie_ Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 At least 1 news report a month. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem. Then it shouldn't be hard for you to find some citations to show us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 At least 1 news report a month. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem. so are we talking 15years times 12 or is this a case of adult ADD and it's the same report but every time yoiu see it you go "OH MY!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 At least 1 news report a month. And there waqs one news report every night about Barack Obama's campaign last summer. Think about it the few hundred campaigns the man launched. I'd be far more interested in the number of honour killing reported, rather that the number of times someone reports them. BTW, I found a list of Ontario women murdered by their husband - ex-husband - boyfriend in 2007.. 18 in total. 2 Muslim women, one of which was killed by her husband who had been battling depression for years. So, that gives us one POSSIBLE honour killing, plus the girl murdered by her father. Two, now you find the other 10. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem. Thank you for reminding me that I live under foreign occupation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 After the Muslim takeover of Ontario there would have been a mass exodus of many of the marginalized people. This must never happen and it begins with the acknowledgment of honor killings within the Muslim community by the socialist left wing who are more interested in being politically correct than protecting Canadians. I just caught up to this thread. Is this meant to be serious? I mean when I read it I laughed long and hard and automatically thought it was some sort of particularly deranged Monty Pythonesque skit. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem. I also really liked this part although I am a little disturbed by the realization that we've apparently suffered a mass invasion by Socialist Muslims intent on killing all our women for their honour and to allow (presumably) baby bonus to stretch further, or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 At least 1 news report a month. Before the mass invasion this wasn't a problem.Which should make it very easy to post several citations. Even though the news isn't a wonderful source for statistics, since they don't examine all the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Which should make it very easy to post several citations. Even though the news isn't a wonderful source for statistics, since they don't examine all the facts. Are you seriously denying that this is going on in Canada? I want to get this on record before I embarrass you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Are you seriously denying that this is going on in Canada? I want to get this on record before I embarrass you. No one is denying that it hasn't happened....I think though we are all bemused about is that the low number of stereo typical muslim honour killing would get your panties all knotted when the absolute number of killings for the same reason as the muslims is far higher...you are hyperventilating over a mote while a beam is banging you on your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) Are you seriously denying that this is going on in Canada? I want to get this on record before I embarrass you. Please, we've been waiting for you to post stats that back up your accusations for days now, so go ahead: Provide statistics that show that the number of "Muslim honour killings" are on the rise in relation to the increase in the Muslim population in Canada. While you're at it, explain to us why a Muslim man murdering his wife or kid over "honour" is worse than a Christian man murdering his wife or kid out of jealousy. Because you sure spend a lot more time talking about the former versus the later - even though the later is much more common place. Edited February 5, 2009 by JB Globe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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