Coalition is Kaput!

[Smallc]

but the days of a Red Ontario are over for the time being and Quebec is dead as well for them.

Like I said, keep dreaming. Their seat count in Ontario will undoubtedly go up, and it shouldn't be very hard at all to see that.

[Mr.Canada]

Like I said, keep dreaming. Their seat count in Ontario will undoubtedly go up, and it shouldn't be very hard at all to see that.

So what seats will the Liberals win aside from the 416 and some seats in Windsor and the north in Ontario? Don't forget the NDP and the Bloc will also be attacking Igantieff now as well. No more Coalition.

Edited January 28, 2009 by Mr.Canada

[Smallc]

So what seats will the Liberals win aside from the 416 and some seats in Windsor and the north in Ontario.

We'll have to wait until the next election to find that out, now won't we.

[Mr.Canada]

We'll have to wait until the next election to find that out, now won't we.

I'm not saying this to make you look foolish Smallc. To state that the Tories and the Liberals will effectively swap seat totals is absurd imo.

[Smallc]

To state that the Tories and the Liberals will effectively swap seat totals is absurd imo.

It really depends on the poll numbers that we're dealing with at the time. If the Liberals have good enough numbers, then yes, they could conceivably swap totals with the CPC or even do a little better.

[ToadBrother]

According to BNN, his office says that he will accept the amendments.

He didn't have much of a choice. His party has no taste for an election now, and what's worse, it isn't an unreasonable request.

[ToadBrother]

It really depends on the poll numbers that we're dealing with at the time. If the Liberals have good enough numbers, then yes, they could conceivably swap totals with the CPC or even do a little better.

And with Harper's idiotic performance in Quebec, one wonders if the Liberals might be able to do a little rebuilding there. I don't think anyone is capable of forming a majority right now, but neither do I think the Conservatives have some incredible lock on the Government benches. What's more, there are some rumblings here in BC that our forest industry basically got screwed in this budget, so I'm wondering if the Tories may get weaker in Lotus Land. Canada isn't the same place it was a generation ago, you can't predict what's going to happen based on old voting patterns.

[Molly]

LOL

I'd still bet that Alberta remains a wall-to-wall Conservative gimme for a few more years.

[Mr.Canada]

It really depends on the poll numbers that we're dealing with at the time. If the Liberals have good enough numbers, then yes, they could conceivably swap totals with the CPC or even do a little better.

Smallc, you're one of my favorites of my enemies but c'mon man...gimme a break. PM Harper would have to run a flounder of a campaign and Ignatieff would have to run a perfect one. You're seriously reaching.

[guyser]

PM Harper would have to run a flounder of a campaign

Dont you mean again?

Anyone who barely beats Dion can be labeled as a 'flounder' , or pathetic.

Think 70's Habs barely beating a 8yr olds ringette team.

[Mr.Canada]

Dont you mean again?

Anyone who barely beats Dion can be labeled as a 'flounder' , or pathetic.

Think 70's Habs barely beating a 8yr olds ringette team.

PM Harper could have ran a better campaign but barely beat Dion? You can't be serious. The Tories have almost double the seats of the Liberals.

[Smallc]

Smallc, you're one of my favorites of my enemies but c'mon man...gimme a break.

I simply don't agree with you. The Liberals have nowhere to go but up. I would be completely surprised if they didn't gain at least 30 seats in the next election. I'm not saying they'll form government (yet).

[Mr.Canada]

I simply don't agree with you. The Liberals have nowhere to go but up. I would be completely surprised if they didn't gain at least 30 seats in the next election. I'm not saying they'll form government (yet).

It's going to depend on how much the Coalition has hurt the Liberals in the long run. Layton will make sure no one forgets about it. I see them taking some seats from the NDP but also losing seats to the Tories, especially out west and in the Maritimes.

Edited January 28, 2009 by Mr.Canada

[ToadBrother]

It's going to depend on how much the Coalition has hurt the Liberals in the long run. Layton will make sure no one forgets about it. I see them taking some seats from the NDP but also losing seats to the Tories, especially out west and in the Maritimes.

I don't think the Coalition is going to do any damage to the Liberals. They were smart enough to pick the one guy that wasn't falling over himself to get into a group hug with Layton and Duceppe, and that guy has opted instead to keep Parliament moving, rather than play any more weird little Machiavellian games.

[punked]

It's going to depend on how much the Coalition has hurt the Liberals in the long run. Layton will make sure no one forgets about it. I see them taking some seats from the NDP but also losing seats to the Tories, especially out west and in the Maritimes.

Have you been to the Maritimes? They will be gaining out here cause they keep pandering to us for some unknown reason.

[85RZ500]

A genius? Hardly. He's going to have to swallow the Liberal's "update" amendment and effectively make Ignatieff a partner in government. No matter how you try to look at this, Harper still comes out the loser.

Don't hold your breath.

I found it odd that Jay Hill was on the tube right after the ammendment motion was tabled saying that the Conservatives were OK with the terms of the ammendment. No" we'll look it over and call you in the morning", a right now OK was what he said.

Now why would anybody with a spine take the crap that Ignatief unloaded and just say OK.

Could it be that the wording of the Liberal ammendment is going to backfire on them. One of the conditions is that all Canadians are being treated fairly and equally. Williams from Newfoudland is telling Ignatief to vote the budget down because of how the budget treats his province, Quebec is complaining too.

This could get interesting, it ain't over yet.

[Riverwind]

Now why would anybody with a spine take the crap that Ignatief unloaded and just say OK.

All of this was likely arranged in advance behind the scene. Ignatiaff knew what was going to be in the budget and Harper knew what Ignatiaff was going to demand in order to keep his distance.

[Mr.Canada]

I told you guys exactly how it would play out yet no one believed me...lol.

[M.Dancer]

Now why would anybody with a spine take the crap that Ignatief unloaded and just say OK.

Could it be that the wording of the Liberal ammendment is going to backfire on them.

Maybe, but tacitly at least, Ignatieff has to agree that the best budget for these times is from Harper's Conservatives.

[Topaz]

Maybe, but tacitly at least, Ignatieff has to agree that the best budget for these times is from Harper's Conservatives.

Let remember Dance, that these ideas came mostly from the opposition parties and other groups within Canada and the only thing I can see they contributed was NOT to get rid of the two week period and NOTchanging the rules for getting it, they could have changed the 2 weeks to 1.