capricorn Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Michael Ignatieff - Intergovernmental AffairsJohn McCallum - Finance Bob Rae - Foreign Affairs Denis Coderre - Defence and Quebec Lieutenant David McGuinty - Environment & Energy Carolyn Bennett - Health Marc Garneau - Industry, Science & Technology Mark Holland - Public Safety & National Security Geoff Regan - Natural Resources Dominic LeBlanc - Justice and Attorney-General Scott Brison - International Trade Martha Hall Findlay - Public Works and Government Services Todd Russell - Indian Affairs Larry Bagnell - Arctic Issues & Northern Development Joe Volpe - Transport Gerard Kennedy - Infrastructure, Communities and Cities Maurizio Bevilacqua - Citizenship & Immigration Judy Sgro - Veterans Affairs, Seniors & Pensions Yasmin Ratansi - National Revenue Gerry Byrne - Fisheries & Oceans Jean-Claude D'Amours - Atlantic Gateway and Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency Pablo Rodriguez - Canadian Heritage & Official Languages Maria Minna - Labour Dan McTeague - Treasury Board, Consumer Affairs and Consular Affairs Mike Savage - Human Resources & Skills Development Anita Neville - Status of Women Wayne Easter - Agriculture, Agri-food and Canadian Wheat Board Sukh Dhaliwal - Asia-Pacific Gateway & Western Economic Development Ruby Dhalla - Youth & Multiculturalism Keith Martin - Amateur Sport, Health Promotion and the Vancouver Olympics Alexandra Mendes - Economic Development Agency for Regions of Quebec Glen Pearson - International Cooperation Raymonde Folco - La Francophonie Ken Dryden - National Outreach Advisor, Working Families & Poverty Special Liason, National Fundraising http://www.liberal.ca/story_15591_e.aspx Dion's supposed strengths in Intergovernmental Affairs and Environment were not enough to land him a critic's role in Iggy's shadow cabinet. Iggy takes over Intergovernmental Affairs and David McGuinty retains Environment. Another embarrassment for the Prime Minister that never was. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Molly Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Goodale isn't on that list either. Edited January 23, 2009 by Molly Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
DFCaper Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Goodale isn't on that list either. I'm surprised that Goodale was ommited. You'd think that Iggy would want to increase his parties strength West of Toronto. Sorry, but which members are West of Ontario? Or 3 hours west of Toronto??? Quote "Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it" - Hellen Keller "Success is not measured by the heights one attains, but by the obstacles one overcomes in its attainment" - Booker T. Washington
M.Dancer Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Trudeau remains sitting, warming the bench... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Moonbox Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 There are a lot of people who vomit at the mention of his father's name. I think the Liberal Party is being cautious using his name. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
normanchateau Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 When Ignatieff becomes Prime Minister, either by leading a coalition or defeating Harper in the next election, I wonder what position Harper will occupy in the shadow cabinet of the Official Opposition. He certainly won't be leader. Finance? Energy? Or maybe he'll return to the National Citizens' Coalition as he did after his falling out with Preston Manning. Then again, he could rejoin the Northern Foundation if it still exists: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Fron...2/11/02902.html Quote
Molly Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Which members are west of Ontario? Neville, Martin, Bagnell and Dhaliwal (with people like Goodale, Dosanjh and Fry not in the shadow cabinet. That's some serious talent to keep on the bench.) Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
guyser Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 I wonder what position Harper will occupy in the shadow cabinet of the Official Opposition. Fitness and Fashion. Quote
85RZ500 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 There's a few people on there I don't know, the ones I do, I have no use for. Quote
DFCaper Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Which members are west of Ontario? Neville, Martin, Bagnell and Dhaliwal (with people like Goodale, Dosanjh and Fry not in the shadow cabinet. That's some serious talent to keep on the bench.) Thanks... I was really surprised to not see Goodale on the list with so few Liberals elected between Ontario and the Rockies. He must be thinking that he's not going to run next time. Shunning Trudeau shows how they are moving towards the center. Quote "Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it" - Hellen Keller "Success is not measured by the heights one attains, but by the obstacles one overcomes in its attainment" - Booker T. Washington
Molly Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 A lot of things could be read into that, particularly since so many very solid hands aren't in that lineup- like they've been pointedly placed in reserve. It looks a bit like letting the pups get their feet wet to learn a little something so they are worth having in the real dogfight- building the party for the longer term. Fading those guys into the background, where they are still very valuable, doesn't mean they are ready for retirement, or even that they wouldn't be assigned a cabinet post when the time comes. (I sure wouldn't blame Goodale if he did retire though. He's put in yeomans duty-- has to be awfully close to being the most experienced in the house, and doesn't want the leadership.) Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
normanchateau Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Fitness and Fashion. Ah, you must be referring to this: http://dstewart.org/images/stephen_harper_village_peop.jpg Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Trudeau remains sitting, warming the bench... As this nobody rookie MP should be at this time. He has almost zero life experience and needs to see how to play the game with the big boys. He may more one day but has never done anything to date except write a bio book about Castro and how great socialism is. Other than that, zilch. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Progressive Tory Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 When Ignatieff becomes Prime Minister, either by leading a coalition or defeating Harper in the next election, I wonder what position Harper will occupy in the shadow cabinet of the Official Opposition. He certainly won't be leader. Finance? Energy? Or maybe he'll return to the National Citizens' Coalition as he did after his falling out with Preston Manning. Then again, he could rejoin the Northern Foundation if it still exists: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Fron...2/11/02902.html That's interesting because it's not the first time I heard that 'Northern Foundation' reference. I sort of dismissed it at the time thinking it was just part of that group he had spoke to when he called Canada a 'Northern European Welfare state in the worst sense of the word', and spoke of women's rights as something that would 'horrify' them. There was another kind of wierd thing I read at the time but just made a joke of it, because it sounded rather silly, but it involved Conrad Black. This was around the same time as Harper was a guest of Connie's at that secretive international conference that brought demonstrations here in Canada. (Harper told reporters they were discussing 'jelly beans'). However, when he went with Conrad Black he wasn't PM. Not long after Peter MacKay's $500,000.00 debt was repaid, so I always assumed it was Black who paid it. Did you ever hear of the all male group 'Promise Keepers' that Conservative MP David Sweet started in Canada? It's based in the U.S. and the founder tells it's members that only men are the true disciples of Christ and that they can't just ask to be head of the household, but must take it. What's that about? Nothing surprises me anymore. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Progressive Tory Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Which members are west of Ontario? Neville, Martin, Bagnell and Dhaliwal (with people like Goodale, Dosanjh and Fry not in the shadow cabinet. That's some serious talent to keep on the bench.) I think Goodale will be playing a different role. I heard something a while back. Word is that Dion did not want to be in the shadow cabinet. He prefers to keep a low profile. He took an awful bashing at the hands of the Conservatives, so I can't blame him. As to Harper's position in the shadow cabinet. I don't think he'll cast a shadow anywhere if he's defeated. He's learning to say "would you like fries with that?" Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
guyser Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 http://dstewart.org/images/stephen_harper_village_peop.jpg Oh my, the mans a beacon for fitness and fashion. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Trudeau remains sitting, warming the bench... Justin is doing a lot of work behind the scenes to bring in young voters. He has quite a following. I think his services there will be more important for the Party in the long term. He's young and is being groomed for other things. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Mr.Canada Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Justin is doing a lot of work behind the scenes to bring in young voters. He has quite a following. I think his services there will be more important for the Party in the long term. He's young and is being groomed for other things. He has a lot of ass kissers, people who thin he is his father. I hope not for the sake of Canada. This nobody rookie MP has done nothing yet. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
normanchateau Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 Oh my, the mans a beacon for fitness and fashion. And he only improves over time: http://media.canada.com/idl/otct/20080129/11044-3055.jpg Quote
SSD Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Goodale is not in the opposition shadow cabinet because he is the Opposition House Leader, which isn't officially a critic. I'm glad John McCallum is Finance Minister-in-waiting, he sure is a breath of fresh air as opposed to Flaherty. However, I am surprised that some rising stars in the Liberals weren't given bigger roles. Navdeep Bains has been left out and even though he's like 31, he has more than four years of Parliamentarian experience. He could help the party since he's a minority and is popular in Peel Region. I guess they are already too many Toronto-area members in key roles. Edited January 23, 2009 by SSD Quote
guyser Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 And he only improves over time: Okay, but that pic is not his fault. He was in an asian country and was playing along w the host by wearing that outfit. But his fault lies with rule #12 on the fashion scene, never stand beside an asian, especially a skinny on, double special if you are portly. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 23, 2009 Report Posted January 23, 2009 He has a lot of ass kissers, people who thin he is his father. I hope not for the sake of Canada. This nobody rookie MP has done nothing yet. Exactly. He's not his farther, just as Mr. Bush isn't his father. Politicians should be elected on their merits not who they're related too. We don't need our own little Canadian version of GWB . Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Exactly. He's not his farther, just as Mr. Bush isn't his father.Politicians should be elected on their merits not who they're related too. We don't need our own little Canadian version of GWB . Young people love him and if he can engage them in politics, it will be to the benefit of everyone. Justin Trudeau urges adoring students to question 'system' A star rookie’s shot Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
scribblet Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 I think Bob Rae would be good in Foreign Affairs. Trudeau jr. the sheeples would vote for him simply because of the name. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Argus Posted January 24, 2009 Report Posted January 24, 2009 Young people love him and if he can engage them in politics, it will be to the benefit of everyone. Yes, because we really need more emotional and ignorant people involved in politics. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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