M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 In a world of cruelty and barbarism, the United Nations Human Rights Council and its predecessor organization have long opted to make one small democracy, Israel, their major obsession. On Monday the council lived up to its reputation for bias with its overwrought condemnation of Israel's “grave violations” in Gaza while soft-pedalling the role of Hamas in precipitating the crisis with rocket attacks on Israeli civilians.Canada was the only one of the 47 member countries to vote against the unbalanced resolution. Canada's was a diplomatically brave, and correct vote, at odds with the abstentions of other Western countries that were unwilling to defend outright the principle of fairness, to say nothing of the role of the Arab, African, Asian and Latin American countries, including such human-rights abusers as China, Cuba and Saudi Arabia (all, shamefully, members of the council) in singling out Israel for condemnation. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...3/BNStory/Front At a meeting in Geneva, Canada asked for a recorded vote to emphasize its complaint that the resolution drafted by Arab, Asian and African countries did not recognize that Israel acted to stop Hamas rocket attacks.European countries abstained, along with Japan and South Korea, because they felt the resolution lacked balance - it gave only brief mention to rocket attacks. Neither Israel nor the United States are in the 47-member council. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/International Kudoos to foreign affairs for growing a pair. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Progressive Tory Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...3/BNStory/Fronthttp://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/International Kudoos to foreign affairs for growing a pair. Nothing to be proud of. Israel and Palestine must recognize each other's right to exist. Too many children are becoming collateral damage. Big shock that Harper is backing the US though....NOT! Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 Nothing to be proud of. Israel and Palestine must recognize each other's right to exist. Too many children are becoming collateral damage. Big shock that Harper is backing the US though....NOT! Israel already regognises the right of Palestine to exist....that is implicit is the fact they actively negotiate directly with the PA. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
madmax Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Israel already regognises the right of Palestine to exist....that is implicit is the fact they actively negotiate directly with the PA. What is Palestine? Is it a country? Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Nothing to be proud of. Israel and Palestine must recognize each other's right to exist. Too many children are becoming collateral damage. Big shock that Harper is backing the US though....NOT! If you want to see the civilian causalties stop then maybe you should stop defending those who use children and innocents as sheilds for their rocket attacks. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 What is Palestine? Is it a country? It is recognised as a state by over 90 nations....but non-recognition is not the same a denying its right to exist... never the less... Israel-Palestine Liberation Organization letters of recognition (or Israel-PLO Recognition or Letters of Mutual Recognition) were a series of official letters of recognition between the government of Israel and its Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the Palestine Liberation Organization's Chairman Yasser Arafat dated September 9, 1993. The letters set the stage for, and were in reality the "preamble" to, the Oslo Accords ("Declaration of Principles On Interim Self-Government Arrangements") of September 13, 1993. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel-Palest..._of_recognition Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
madmax Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 It is recognised as a state by over 90 nations....but non-recognition is not the same a denying its right to exist... Does Israel recognize Palestine? What is Palestine? IS IT A COUNTRY ??? Quote
KeyStone Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Israel already regognises the right of Palestine to exist....that is implicit is the fact they actively negotiate directly with the PA. Well, based on that logic, since the PA negotiates with Israel, they recognize the right of Israel to exist. Or is there one rule for Israel, and one rule for Arabs? Quote
KeyStone Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 If you want to see the civilian causalties stop then maybe you should stop defending those who use children and innocents as sheilds for their rocket attacks. Hey, you missed the boat. 2000 Zionists supporters have already spewed this distribution list talking point here on the forum. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Hey, you missed the boat. 2000 Zionists supporters have already spewed this distribution list talking point here on the forum. Get lost Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
madmax Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Get lost Don't get into the fire... if you can't take the heat. You want to play the Israeli Palestinian game, grow a thick skin. No matter who tackles this subject or from what angle, the potential to get burned is high. You flame, expect flames in return. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Don't get into the fire... if you can't take the heat.You want to play the Israeli Palestinian game, grow a thick skin. No matter who tackles this subject or from what angle, the potential to get burned is high. You flame, expect flames in return. I have a thick skin, anyone who refers to Israeli's as Zionists are not interested in debating. To me that name indicates they are conspiracy theory wacko's. the word Zionist is also usually used as a derogitory term. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
madmax Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 I have a thick skin, anyone who refers to Israeli's as Zionists are not interested in debating. To me that name indicates they are conspiracy theory wacko's. the word Zionist is also usually used as a derogitory term. Point taken Quote
Muddy Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Good for Canada! This old Canadian soldier can once again hold his head up high. The UN is no longer a legitimate broker. Hamas has just been encouraged to wipe Israel off the map and kill all the Jews by this vote. That is their goal and they make no excuses for their action and quest. Hamas was voted into power and those who voted for them knew what their goal was. The people of Palestine made their choice and it was not unwittingly. Palestinians must rise up against the monster in their midst and it is not Israel. It is Hamas! Quote
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 Well, based on that logic, since the PA negotiates with Israel, they recognize the right of Israel to exist.Or is there one rule for Israel, and one rule for Arabs? Not sure what your point is but the PA recognizes Israel's right to exist. Hamas on the other hand.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Shady Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Canada's vote makes me proud. At least one nation member of the so-called UN Human Rights Council has a spine. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 If you want to see the civilian causalties stop then maybe you should stop defending those who use children and innocents as sheilds for their rocket attacks. Neither side is right. Israeli soldiers are even firing on Red Cross ambulances. http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...OQ-knFJgpkH5aiA These are crimes against humanity. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Neither side is right. Israeli soldiers are even firing on Red Cross ambulances.http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianp...OQ-knFJgpkH5aiA These are crimes against humanity. Ambulances used as troop carriers lose their immunity. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=116_1231063776 Edited January 13, 2009 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Alta4ever Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 Ambulances used as troop carriers lose their immunity.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=116_1231063776 You beat me to it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Mr.Canada Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 For once, an issue I stay far away from. My fans know that I would never wade into the waters of the Holy War and pick sides. I remain ever silent on the issue, sorry to disappoint my fans but there are times when silence is the best argument. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted January 13, 2009 Author Report Posted January 13, 2009 ...silence is the best argument. It's one of the few ways for you to look smart. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ToadBrother Posted January 13, 2009 Report Posted January 13, 2009 For once, an issue I stay far away from. My fans know that I would never wade into the waters of the Holy War and pick sides. I remain ever silent on the issue, sorry to disappoint my fans but there are times when silence is the best argument. Except it isn't a holy war. It's a nationalist struggle, no different than what was going on in Northern Ireland for decades. Some folks on both sides of that war liked to pretend that it was about Catholics vs. Protestants, too. Quote
M.Dancer Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Posted January 14, 2009 Some folks on both sides of that war liked to pretend that it was about Catholics vs. Protestants, too. It was..it just wasn't about catholicism and protestantism..... I kid....it was about stacked civic councils, access to jobs, housing...etc etc.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
blueblood Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Except it isn't a holy war. It's a nationalist struggle, no different than what was going on in Northern Ireland for decades. Some folks on both sides of that war liked to pretend that it was about Catholics vs. Protestants, too. except in Northern Ireland they were smart enough to realize that engaging in terrorism and being a gong show is not a good idea. Their reward, Ireland and Northern Ireland are one of the richest areas in the world. They don't need to fight, they've finally got out of poverty. Palestine and Israel could be one of the richest countries in the Middle east, but Hamas is too braindead to realize that good gov't = riches. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Mr.Canada Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 Except it isn't a holy war. It's a nationalist struggle, no different than what was going on in Northern Ireland for decades. Some folks on both sides of that war liked to pretend that it was about Catholics vs. Protestants, too. It's really irrelevant what you think it is as you're not involved in it directly. Hamas sees it has a Holy War so to them it is. Just because you don't believe it to be doesn't it make it so. Be fair please TB. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
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