Gays spread HIV purposely.

[Mr.Canada]

Do I have "IDIOT" written on my forehead?

I don't know, do you?

I see the threat of HIV spreading to be a great threat, but continuing to demonize homosexuals, which now amount worldwide for a much smaller percentage of new infections that heterosexuals to be nothing more than fear and hate mongering.

Hrm, I'm concerned for the safety of our gay communities. Yes they're a minority but that doesn't make them any less important in my eyes as all citizens of this great land are equal and it's unfortunate that some people cannot see the epidemic gripping our gay community.

[CANADIEN]

Hrm, I'm concerned for the safety of our gay communities. Yes they're a minority but that doesn't make them any less important in my eyes as all citizens of this great land are equal and it's unfortunate that some people cannot see the epidemic gripping our gay community.

I for one, would believe your concern and your declaration of how important they were to you if it wasn't for statements like "HIV is a gift from God".

[Mr.Canada]

I for one, would believe your concern and your declaration of how important they were to you if it wasn't for statements like "HIV is a gift from God".

It is through God's grace that He has shown me the path to righteousness. Which passes not through contempt but through compassion and understanding of my fellow man, no matter our differences. We are all God's children.

[CANADIEN]

It is through God's grace that He has shown me the path to righteousness. Which passes not through contempt but through compassion and understanding of my fellow man, no matter our differences. We are all God's children.

When Jesus was among us, the Pharisees hated him. Today, they hide behind him.

[Mr.Canada]

When Jesus was among us, the Pharisees hated him. Today, they hide behind him.

Hrm I was torn between these two comments so I'll post them both, you can pick your favorite hehe.

The Lord works in mysterious ways. -Or- It's amazing what a couple thousand years can do.

[punked]

Hrm I was torn between these two comments so I'll post them both, you can pick your favorite hehe.

The Lord works in mysterious ways. -Or- It's amazing what a couple thousand years can do.

Either of which are in the bible or came from Jesus teachings in any way unlike Canadians comment.

[ToadBrother]

Hrm, I'm concerned for the safety of our gay communities.

To be blunt, I don't believe you.

Yes they're a minority but that doesn't make them any less important in my eyes as all citizens of this great land are equal and it's unfortunate that some people cannot see the epidemic gripping our gay community.

I would think, from a purely preventative point of view, stemming a disease means concentrating on those groups which are most likely to spread and become infected by the disease. Gay men have not been that group for at least twenty years now.

No one is fooled by your bullcrap "I'm worried about the gay community line". You're anti-homosexual bigot through and through. Nothing shows how little the teachings of Christ mean to you than your attempts and dissembling your true views. It's called lying, and I seem to recall this big ol' commandment against it. Oddly, men lying with men isn't in the Big Ten. So I guess you're worse in your own myopic religious view than a gay man.

[punked]

To be blunt, I don't believe you.

I would think, from a purely preventative point of view, stemming a disease means concentrating on those groups which are most likely to spread and become infected by the disease. Gay men have not been that group for at least twenty years now.\

No Gay are still the most affected group of people in Canada by this disease.

[Mr.Canada]

No Gay are still the most affected group of people in Canada by this disease.

Excellent timing punked as always. Thanks for coming out in the open on that one.

[Melanie_]

It is through God's grace that He has shown me the path to righteousness. Which passes not through contempt but through compassion and understanding of my fellow man, no matter our differences. We are all God's children.

How sweet. God has shown you the path to righteousness. You must be pretty special.

[Oleg Bach]

How sweet. God has shown you the path to righteousness. You must be pretty special.

God expects you to know the path that is right all on your own - If you need God to show you goodness - then you sure must be a big disappointment to God.. Goodness and Godness are the same - He created the good and the evil and left it to us to sort it out with our own God given minds and free will - Christ would never have persecuted gays - he might have said - don't do that - and there is an angelic woman in the world for you ..be patient and wait....again I just don't believe in the defining of a human creature through their search of sensual pleasure.....There are all sorts of degrees of sensuality...and we all choose - if men were allowed to be men and if woman re-embraced their femine qualities we would not have all this confusion - God the director wrote the script to the play of life that is to have a happy ending - It's humanity that plays God and is just not very good at it - they screw things up - forget sexuality and sensuality - look at the human being and stop forcing roles on people - leave them alone..Nature and God will prevail if we do not interfere.

[charter.rights]

How sweet. God has shown you the path to righteousness. You must be pretty special.

Yes yes yes...he's Barney lunchbox "special".

[Oleg Bach]

Yes yes yes...he's Barney lunchbox "special".

Anyone who hears voices is nuts - As if God needs a human voice - as for God showing you the way - I am sure the creator of the endless and eternal mulitiple universes - has better things to do than show and germ which way to swim...Yes there is a God - but he is a cold and distant partner and father...he rarely shows up to show Barney the lunch box book crazed fundamentalist the way....If man made manuscripts were the way and the light - we would be living a heavenly existance by now....God put it in you to know what was right and what was wrong.. Righteousness is a direction that is opposite to sin or sinisterism or leftism - the universe moves to the right....the natural course of matter.

[charter.rights]

Anyone who hears voices is nuts - As if God needs a human voice - as for God showing you the way - I am sure the creator of the endless and eternal mulitiple universes - has better things to do than show and germ which way to swim...Yes there is a God - but he is a cold and distant partner and father...he rarely shows up to show Barney the lunch box book crazed fundamentalist the way....If man made manuscripts were the way and the light - we would be living a heavenly existance by now....God put it in you to know what was right and what was wrong.. Righteousness is a direction that is opposite to sin or sinisterism or leftism - the universe moves to the right....the natural course of matter.

James 2: 3-12

And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2: 14-20

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Jame 2:26

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

And since Mr. Canada sows discord, disharmony and santimony then is faith is in those things that attempt to destroy people and sow chaos. His faith is not in Christ but in the ways of Satan, his master and mentor. For death is where he comes from being without good works to demonstrate a good faith.

Let him alone. Satan relishes his misery in company and dies a death 10 times over when no one will entertain him.

[Oleg Bach]

James 2: 3-12

And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2: 14-20

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

Jame 2:26

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

And since Mr. Canada sows discord, disharmony and santimony then is faith is in those things that attempt to destroy people and sow chaos. His faith is not in Christ but in the ways of Satan, his master and mentor. For death is where he comes from being without good works to demonstrate a good faith.

Let him alone. Satan relishes his misery in company and dies a death 10 times over when no one will entertain him.

You are not quoting James the brother of the Christ - you are sneaking some Paulism in there...Paul was an overly ambitious tweek. ---I do agree if you have faith you have to be fearless. Who is without fear these days? Who fears being hungry or without a home or alone? Most people do - so you are preaching to the choir here - I know all this stuff. FAITH - Is like hope - the only wealth a human can have..the rest is garbage. Look at the mammonism - the false god of materialism - they lost faith in their god....and rightfully so - I had sympathy for all at one point - then I found no one had sympathy or empathy for me --------------so near the end - I say a curse on all of the bastards - let them fall - all of them ------------------bitter.....? No! Finally mature and pragmatic - some don't know what salvation is and will never know or care - I can heal the sick but can not bring back the walking dead..."Let the dead bury the dead."

[charter.rights]

You are not quoting James the brother of the Christ - you are sneaking some Paulism in there...Paul was an overly ambitious tweek. ---I do agree if you have faith you have to be fearless. Who is without fear these days? Who fears being hungry or without a home or alone? Most people do - so you are preaching to the choir here - I know all this stuff. FAITH - Is like hope - the only wealth a human can have..the rest is garbage. Look at the mammonism - the false god of materialism - they lost faith in their god....and rightfully so - I had sympathy for all at one point - then I found no one had sympathy or empathy for me --------------so near the end - I say a curse on all of the bastards - let them fall - all of them ------------------bitter.....? No! Finally mature and pragmatic - some don't know what salvation is and will never know or care - I can heal the sick but can not bring back the walking dead..."Let the dead bury the dead."

What IS faith reveals itself in works. If we have faith in God do we do it blindly? Or do we confirm with His Works?

Similarly, my faith has no value unless I show it in my own works. When I heal the sick or raise from the dead I both confirm not only my own faith but the works of God.

[Melanie_]

What IS faith reveals itself in works. If we have faith in God do we do it blindly? Or do we confirm with His Works?

Similarly, my faith has no value unless I show it in my own works. When I heal the sick or raise from the dead I both confirm not only my own faith but the works of God.

Whoa, Charter Rights, you've been talking to Oleg and Mr. C. too long. How often do you heal the sick and raise the dead? Does Medicare know about this?

[Oleg Bach]

Whoa, Charter Rights, you've been talking to Oleg and Mr. C. too long. How often do you heal the sick and raise the dead? Does Medicare know about this?

You don't get it...there is a biblical quote - "let the dead bury the dead" - this was a reference to the fact that some people for all intent and purpose are not really living....but are dead.....some of these zombies run the system - and are well medicated to the point of commiting legal crimes and show no remorse due to their Prozac pill. The point being that the old doctrine of Christianity was not based on virgin birth or water into wind - It was based on reality...on what was true and what was just...as for medicare - sickness is a buisness...proof of this is the modernistic invention of a parasitic term called "wellness" - a disease that all must be treated for - talk about greed! Does Medicare know that they are no longer healers (some doctors are - and they are considered rebels against the system) - Real Christianity is about TRUTH....reality - unless we give up being delluded and embrace reality - there can never be solutions to the healing of a sick society.

[punked]

Excellent timing punked as always. Thanks for coming out in the open on that one.

What do you mean out in the open I have never denied this fact. It is horrible and while it is less of a Gay problem then it was in the 80's in Canada, it is still the majority of AIDS cases in Canada are among Gay men.

[Oleg Bach]

What do you mean out in the open I have never denied this fact. It is horrible and while it is less of a Gay problem then it was in the 80's in Canada, it is still the majority of AIDS cases in Canada are among Gay men.

Not all gay men - some are honourable and kind and intelligent - Others are letchers - One such man I know has aids and all he thinks about is seducing young men.. This self serving destructive mentality exists in gays and straights - not all gays are the same!

[AngusThermopyle]

When I heal the sick or raise from the dead I both confirm not only my own faith but the works of God.

Hold on now! I must be reading this wrong.

From what you have said it appears that you believe you can perform miracles and actually raise from the dead, just as Jesus was supposed to have done.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that you do both of these things? Seriously.

[punked]

Not all gay men - some are honourable and kind and intelligent - Others are letchers - One such man I know has aids and all he thinks about is seducing young men.. This self serving destructive mentality exists in gays and straights - not all gays are the same!

What I contend Bug Chasers are like serial killers yah there is a few of them but really they don't exist. However AIDS in Canada affects mostly Gay men is what I was saying.

[WIP]

Hrm, I'm concerned for the safety of our gay communities. Yes they're a minority but that doesn't make them any less important in my eyes as all citizens of this great land are equal and it's unfortunate that some people cannot see the epidemic gripping our gay community.

What kind of bullshit is this! You title a thread "Gays spread HIV purposely," and then claim you are concerned for their safety -- do you think you are fooling anyone?

[WIP]

Whoa, Charter Rights, you've been talking to Oleg and Mr. C. too long. How often do you heal the sick and raise the dead? Does Medicare know about this?

I hope it was meant in a metaphorical sense.

[charter.rights]

Hold on now! I must be reading this wrong.

From what you have said it appears that you believe you can perform miracles and actually raise from the dead, just as Jesus was supposed to have done.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that you do both of these things? Seriously.

We all perform miracles everyday. The manifestation of our intention IS miraculous.

We are born into mortality with a goal of death. Everything we do is geared to that finality. We may fancy life along the way but the ultimate goal is death.

Yet there is no one who can remember a time they were "unborn". Physical life and death is a delusion. Once we get beyond the notion that our life is about death, we no longer live in mortality but arise to The Resurrection. We are all capable of raising the dead by changing our perceptions. Anyone who has had a near-death experience knows that life is in the Spirit, not in the body. Anyone can save another by refusing to believe in and confirm their delusions.

Those who believe they are dead cannot be saved. But those who have hope can be saved.