Progressive Tory Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 When will somebody fire Sid Ryan? He has been running recklessly loose. People across the country are calling for action to be taken against Sid Ryan for his racist marks against Israel. There is no doubt that someone needs to step in and remove him from his post. http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/cupe-leader...srael/#more-426 About the thread, I didn't even know who Sid Ryan was before reading this but his comments led me to the following: "The West's rejection of Hamas is always justified on the grounds that Hamas refuses to recognize Israel. But it could be noted that Israel also refuses to recognize Palestine....So you could say there's a mutual refusal on the part of these bitter enemies to “recognize” each other." "It's often argued that Canada isn't a significant player in world events. That can't be said of the current crisis in the Middle East, where the Harper government has played a notable — and disastrous — role.. ...in 1979, another new Conservative prime minister, Joe Clark, made a similarly ill-informed foray into Middle East politics...In a speech at McGill University earlier this year, Clark compared his mistake over the embassy to Harper's mistake over cutting aid to Hamas. If only Harper had the good sense to follow in Clark's steps and turn to a more seasoned and thoughtful observer for advice — someone like, say, former Conservative party leader and elder statesman Joe Clark." http://www.rabble.ca/columnists/clark-offe...recedent-harper It is a complex issue and one that cannot be resolved by immediately taking sides. Mr. Ryan AND Mr. Harper have done that. No leftwing, rightwing thing here. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) When will somebody fire Sid Ryan? He has been running recklessly loose. People across the country are calling for action to be taken against Sid Ryan for his racist marks against Israel. There is no doubt that someone needs to step in and remove him from his post. http://informedvote.ca/2009/01/cupe-leader...srael/#more-426 Well, let's see... Levine... Jewish name, Birk... Jewish name, Sheps... Jewish name, Yarmolinsky... possibly Jewish name. This seems to be a highly biased source that you keep referring to/promoting. Oh, and Thornhill is Peter Kent territory, and I'm not sure if anyone caught him on the news the other day giving a rousing speech to a bunch of Israeli flag-waving people... If it werent for the odd Canadian flag, one could easily assume this didn't occur in CANADA... Edited January 9, 2009 by Ontario Loyalist Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 Well, let's see...Levine... Jewish name, Birk... Jewish name, Sheps... Jewish name, Yarmolinsky... possibly Jewish name. This seems to be a highly biased source that you keep referring to/promoting. Oh, and Thornhill is Peter Kent territory, and I'm not sure if anyone caught him on the news the other day giving a rousing speech to a bunch of Israeli flag-waving people... If it werent for the odd Canadian flag, one could easily assume this didn't occur in CANADA... Wha a load of horse manure you produce. Israeli names? Thornhill? Israeli falg waving people.....do you work hard at producing suce brainless drivel or does it come naturally? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
KeyStone Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 Nope I took no side on this issue and I won't. Let them kill each other for all I care. I feel bad for the Christians being caught in the crossfire in the Holy Land. If you're going to say shit like this, can you change your name? I don't want you representing my country. Perhaps you could be Mr Zimbabwe or Mr Chechnya? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted January 9, 2009 Report Posted January 9, 2009 Repeat repeat repeat...."You become what you hate if you hate long enough" .....Don't tell me that the Israelis after a generation and a half of Nazi hate don't eventually become ---- what they hate and behave in the same manner as the old National Socialists. They seem to have found the "final solution" for the Palistinian problem - EXTERMINATION! With every last Palistinian dead, be it civilian or Hamas...they get closer to their ultimate goal of getting rid of what they consider a blight on the land.....It's pitifully amuzing when they blow the hell out of three Hamas and at the same time kill thirty men woman and children. I am sure in quiet ...they are full of glee with every death. Back in history there was a Pope who sent a message to the Christian crusaders, giving orders to the confused fighters, who could not tell the difference between Muslim, Christian and Jew...so he said "Kill them all, that way we will be sure" - seems that Israel has taken the same approach...Kill them all...I still don't understand why the world is in such awe and fear of Israel...you would think that someone would intercede on humanitarian grounds. BUT NO! Just like the the time prior to the Jewish holocaust...the world turned away untill 6 million were gone...now we wait till a million are gone from Palistine. Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Wha a load of horse manure you produce.Israeli names? Thornhill? Israeli falg waving people.....do you work hard at producing suce brainless drivel or does it come naturally? Not sure what you mean--and not just because of your typos... I think it's actually rather ironic that you accuse others of "producing suce [sic.] brainless drivel". Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 You're kidding right? I was raised Catholic and turned away from the Catholic Church because of their narrow minded views; but turned away from Christianity because of narrow minded views like yours?So Mr. Canada; as a disciple of Jesus Christ can you please tell me where it says in the New Testament "Let them kill each other for all I care" ? There is no way that you're a Christian, because your crusade is more about pointing out what's wrong with Christianity. Thanks for the lesson. I made the right choice. The Holy War wil never end unless both sides are dead. It's pointless to argue. Christians are caught in the crossfire there and that sucks. If they coulod've ended the fighting they would have done it by now so spare the secular socialist psychobabble. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Let them kill each other for all I care. Nice Christian feeling again. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Nice Christian feeling again. Lol. Yes, Christians must be opinionated on every issue out there I forgot. I simply do not care what the Jews and Muslims do to each other. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 I simply do not care what the Jews and Muslims do to each other. They're not Christians therefore their life have no value. Keep digging. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) They're not Christians therefore their life have no value. Keep digging. Not at all. I'm just not going to waste time on people who don't care about me nor would they help me so I'll do likewise, sit back and watch the show. The less Jews and Muslims there are the more Christianity gains. Once the dust settles Catholics can go and testify and get some converts for God's Army. Edited January 10, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Not at all. I'm just not going to waste time on people who don't care about me nor would they help me so I'll do likewise, sit back and watch the show. The less Jews and Muslims there are the more Christianity gains. Once the dust settles Catholics can go and testify and get some converts for God's Army. Jesus directed us to go and convert nations, not to sit back with a grin on our face while the heathen kill each other. He called on us to love our neighbours like ourselves, and that all humans were our neighbours, not that we should see the misfurtune of others as an opportunity. He demanded that we treat others the way we want to be treated by them, not that we hide behind excuses like "that's what they'd do". Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Jesus directed us to go and convert nations, not to sit back with a grin on our face while the heathen kill each other. He called on us to love our neighbours like ourselves, and that all humans were our neighbours, not that we should see the misfurtune of others as an opportunity. He demanded that we treat others the way we want to be treated by them, not that we hide behind excuses like "that's what they'd do". I'm not grinning I just don't really care too much anymore about this. It's been going on since 1948 and isn't going to stop. I'm bored with it. So either they kill each other or one side wins. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 So either they kill each other or one side wins. What a lovely attitude. No use trying to make things better, right? Might as well just let them kill each other I guess. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 What a lovely attitude. No use trying to make things better, right? Might as well just let them kill each other I guess. Nothing has worked. The US should strip it's BIllions in support and military equipment and let Israel stand on its own. Whatever happens, happens. I'm tired of hearing about it. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Nice Christian feeling again. Actually, if you look at the Book of Revelations for one, it clearly indicates that there will be wars, and by implication it clearly shows that the events that take place in the world are something that the Christian has to be resigned to accepting. Suggesting that the two side can go kill each other is perhaps a little blunt, but essentially because the two sides seem to be intent on doing just that to each other, then so be it. Both sides--Muslim and Jews alike--know of Christ's teaching, and both refuse to abide by them. In their truest sense, if all people who abide by Christ's teachings, then the world would be peaceful, and this probem/situation wouldn't exist. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 They're not Christians therefore their life have no value. Keep digging. Nope. That's a very disingenuous misinterpretation of what he's saying. True Christians value all life, which is why they are concerned about people engaging in sinful lifestyles and following false prophecies. But one can only invest so much concern for people who obstinantly engage in those behaviours. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 .... Both sides--Muslim and Jews alike--know of Christ's teaching, and both refuse to abide by them. In their truest sense, if all people who abide by Christ's teachings, then the world would be peaceful, and this probem/situation wouldn't exist. It would just be replaced by another..."Christ's teachings" are way overrated. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) Actually, if you look at the Book of Revelations for one, it clearly indicates that there will be wars, and by implication it clearly shows that the events that take place in the world are something that the Christian has to be resigned to accepting. Suggesting that the two side can go kill each other is perhaps a little blunt, but essentially because the two sides seem to be intent on doing just that to each other, then so be it. Both sides--Muslim and Jews alike--know of Christ's teaching, and both refuse to abide by them. In their truest sense, if all people who abide by Christ's teachings, then the world would be peaceful, and this probem/situation wouldn't exist. Saying that people can just kill each other, and that anyway that will result in less non-Christians, is not just a bit blunt, it is showing the lack of care for others that is at the core of the Christian message. As for Jews and Muslims not abiding by Christ's teachings, it does not exempt Christians from abiding by them. Edited January 10, 2009 by CANADIEN Quote
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Nope. That's a very disingenuous misinterpretation of what he's saying. True Christians value all life, which is why they are concerned about people engaging in sinful lifestyles and following false prophecies. But one can only invest so much concern for people who obstinantly engage in those behaviours. Stating that Jews and Muslims can all kill each others and that anyway less of them will mean more converts is not showing concern for them. And God has not stopped, is not stopping and will not stop showing concerns for all sinners; that is all of us. I for one will at least try to do the same. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Stating that Jews and Muslims can all kill each others and that anyway less of them will mean more converts is not showing concern for them. And God has not stopped, is not stopping and will not stop showing concerns for all sinners; that is all of us. I for one will at least try to do the same. You cannot live your life in sin ignoring Gods laws forever and expect your soul to be saved...it just doesn't work that way. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Mr.Canada Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 You speak for God now? God has spoken to us already. All of this is in His word : The Bible. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 Oh, lets not go down that path again. Quote
CANADIEN Posted January 10, 2009 Report Posted January 10, 2009 You cannot live your life in sin ignoring Gods laws forever and expect your soul to be saved...it just doesn't work that way. Indeed. So do yourself a favour by fully obeying God's law and turning from the sin of hatred. Quote
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