WestViking Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 and the ground assault on Gaza will only strengthen the extremist philosophy. Radicalism always comes out whenever the country is going through serious troubles.. No, the ground attack is intended to eliminate Hamas. Dead radicals are not a threat. Quote Hall Monitor of the Shadowy Group
OddSox Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Maybe in one of your three official languages.Do you mean French, English and Mercan? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Ah, war always brings out the best in us all. Hey, folks...Let's pretend we're on a sinking cruise ship and we all have to pitch in to survive. I vote BC-2004 for the Ernest Borgnine role...BC Chick can be Shelly Winters. Perhaps I can be Roddy McDowell...etc. -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Zira: What will he find out there, doctor? Dr. Zaius: His destiny. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 I know, lets ask Timothy McViegh, The Uni Bomber and Paul Rose and see if they think it's true. Oh, so you're agreeing with me... I'm not aware of that revisionist tact. Did they bomb the UN in New York? Revisionist, eh? Well, they did kill 91 people in one bombing in a region (at the time) with about maybe 1/100th the population of the USA in 2001. And that was just one of numerous attacks that they carried out. I looked into it. I can say without a hint of sarcasm that the tactics of Irgun have proven to be obsolete which is highlighted by the fact you haven't heard a peep out of them for over 50 years. Politically, the Irgun is perpetuated by the Likud party, and militarily by the IDF. So they've been peeping quite a bit for the last "over 50 years". Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Japan and Germany are highly radicalized countries I guess, as is the former Confederacy in the United States? Interesting book you micht want to read: http://www.sc.edu/uscpress/Fw00/3363.html Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
jbg Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Interesting book you micht want to read:http://www.sc.edu/uscpress/Fw00/3363.html Thanks for the book reference.The point I was making, which you are missing, is that the former U.S. Confederacy, Japan and Germany are hardly radical hotbeds, despite being clobbered militarily. In fact, the defeats sobered them and took their military adventurism off the table. Dare we hold similar hopes for Gaza? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
LesterDC Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks for the book reference.The point I was making, which you are missing, is that the former U.S. Confederacy, Japan and Germany are hardly radical hotbeds, despite being clobbered militarily. In fact, the defeats sobered them and took their military adventurism off the table. Dare we hold similar hopes for Gaza? Yeah, but at what cost? We saw Nazi German and Fascist Italian regimes before anything peaceful came out of them.. Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks for the book reference.The point I was making, which you are missing, is that the former U.S. Confederacy, Japan and Germany are hardly radical hotbeds, despite being clobbered militarily. In fact, the defeats sobered them and took their military adventurism off the table. Dare we hold similar hopes for Gaza? Yeah, and I guess the point that you're missing is that the Confederate States, Japan, and Germany were all pushed into positions where radicalism became a viable option and eventually gained control. Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
Rue Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Yeah, and I guess the point that you're missing is that the Confederate States, Japan, and Germany were all pushed into positions where radicalism became a viable option and eventually gained control. Interesting Japan and Germany have the exact same law of return for "Germans" and "Japanese" as Israel does for Jews and no one questions either nation's right to see itself as the homeland for people who are not Germans or Japanese by being born or resident in their countries, but by ethnic affiliation. I would suggest that is the analogy that has more relevance. Engaging in a debate as to which nation has had the most wingnuts will prove pointless. Look around. There are a lot of them. Quote
Ontario Loyalist Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Interesting Japan and Germany have the exact same law of return for "Germans" and "Japanese" as Israel does for Jews and no one questions either nation's right to see itself as the homeland for people who are not Germans or Japanese by being born or resident in their countries, but by ethnic affiliation. No, Germany does not have the "exact same law of return"... Germany's law applies to ethnic Germans from Eastern Europe and basically is intended to rectify an historic wrong that was committed by various east European nations, most prominent being the SOVIET UNION. As for Israel: "The Law of Return declares that Israel constitutes a home not only for the inhabitants of the State, but also for all members of the Jewish people everywhere - be they living in poverty and fear of persecution or in affluence and safety." (wikipedia) Whatever the case, this discussion is about radicalization brought on by adverse political/social conditions, not the "law of return". Quote Some of us on here appreciate a view OTHER than the standard conservative crap. Keep up the good work and heck, they have not banned me yet so you are safe Cheers! Drea
M.Dancer Posted January 7, 2009 Report Posted January 7, 2009 Ireland and rge UK also have similar laws. I am elligable for UK citizenship while my wife can have Irish if she chose to because our grandparents (my case my parents) were born there. It's quite common really... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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