wulf42 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Israel is simply defending itself, Hamas has been sending rockets over non-stop where were all the protesters then? now Israel is finally coming out swinging and the world is in an uproar?...give me a break what did you think they would do? Israel should continue until the last Hamas member has been blown to bits! Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 ...with a cherry on top. Hopefully in a few weeks Hamas will win a Darwin Award. Hey Achmed, what do you say we fire a few hundred rockets at the Jews? What's the worst that can happen? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 So I suppose you do not agree with the international laws? I agree. According to International law Israel can defend herself against rocket attacks by killing as many of Hamas as needed, then add 20% for good measure. Them's the rules... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Israel is simply defending itself, Hamas has been sending rockets over non-stop where were all the protesters then? now Israel is finally coming out swinging and the world is in an uproar?...give me a break what did you think they would do?Israel should continue until the last Hamas member has been blown to bits! "Coming out swinging" - no you mean they are coming down from the sky and killing people who can not run away - it's like killing a man in a jail cell. Again - they will if not stopped -genocide the whole strip...Left to their own device and not curtailed _Israel will simply push Palistine into the sea _ Israel is just testing the world to see how far they will be allowed to go. We are wimps - this fable that the Jews control the economy is just that - a fable - and most will allow innocent people to die because they think that by doing so - the Jews will let them have more money - it's pitiful - that the western world can be bought - Ironically - the Jews do not control the global money supply .....like I said - most will do anything and say anything to protect their money...even let a million people die....we are all damned cowardly jerks! Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 So you mean to tell me that those innocent lives that were taken away was a result of a frightened Israeli? What exactly are they afraid of? Who has the bigger stick here.. So are you suggesting that simply because the 100's of Hamas missiles in the last week didn't kill, they should be tollerated? How many Israelis have to die before they get approval for self defense? Six Million? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I'll bite. Did you read a James Bacque book by chance? The fellow lauded by neo nazis and subsequently torn to pieces by historians over shoddy work and tenuous conclusions? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Oleg Bach Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 So are you suggesting that simply because the 100's of Hamas missiles in the last week didn't kill, they should be tollerated? How many Israelis have to die before they get approval for self defense?Six Million? Classic rhetorical - firstly - Israel is a secularist state hiding behind a religion - secondly...those crude missles are like fire crackers with limited range and almost no accuracy...while the weapons that Israel has and uses are the very best on the planet. If ISRAEL WAS NOT SO DAMNED CHEAP AND DID NOT HORD ALL THE AIDS PAYMENTS FOR THEIR OWN FAT ASSES - THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM ---This is about money - and the Jews are spoiled rotten by the west - and those in Palisitine should have got a share of the aid - instead of artifically creating slave labour to service those fat ass parasites. Quote
wulf42 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Again - they will if not stopped -genocide the whole strip...Left to their own device and not curtailed _Israel will simply push Palistine into the sea Kind of like what Hamas is trying to do to Israel! If your going to punch somebody in the face expect to get punched in the face in return! Hamas started this damn thing now they have unleashed a war they do not have any control over..... Israel couldn't careless about world opinion they are going to crush Hamas once and for all! Quote
Oleg Bach Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Kind of like what Hamas is trying to do to Israel! If your going to punch somebody in the face expect to get punched in the face in return! Hamas started this damn thing now they have unleashed a war they do not have any control over..... Israel couldn't careless about world opinion they are going to crush Hamas once and for all! Hamas became influential because Israel and the rest of the world refused to give economic and social support to the people of Palistine...this left a vacum open for Hamas to step in and become benefactors and sort of like kind social workers - If the Jews were not so cheap - there would BE NO HAMAS! This is about money - it always was. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Classic rhetorical - firstly - Israel is a secularist state hiding behind a religion - Actually, Israel is a Jewish state and democracy hiding behind nothing but the will to survive in a tough neighborhood. secondly...those crude missles are like fire crackers with limited range and almost no accuracy...while the weapons that Israel has and uses are the very best on the planet. Then you agree that Caledonia can start launching at Hamilton today? C'mon.....they are just 10kg "firecrackers" with ball bearing shrapnel. If ISRAEL WAS NOT SO DAMNED CHEAP AND DID NOT HORD ALL THE AIDS PAYMENTS FOR THEIR OWN FAT ASSES - THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM --- Check your math...for Jordan, Israel, Egypt, and Palestine. This is about money - and the Jews are spoiled rotten by the west - and those in Palisitine should have got a share of the aid - instead of artifically creating slave labour to service those fat ass parasites. You're pretty brave when spending someone else's money. Edited December 30, 2008 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I agree. According to International law Israel can defend herself against rocket attacks by killing as many of Hamas as needed, then add 20% for good measure.Them's the rules... and according to international law, Israel cannot commit collective punishment. I don't get it.. So Israel is mad because the Hamas rockets are disturbing the innocent.. So in retaliation, they will air strike and kill 300 innocent Arabs.. Hmm, nope. Sorry, doesn't make sense Quote
wulf42 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) and according to international law, Israel cannot commit collective punishment. I don't get it.. So Israel is mad because the Hamas rockets are disturbing the innocent.. So in retaliation, they will air strike and kill 300 innocent Arabs.. Hmm, nope. Sorry, doesn't make sense Actually most of the dead are Hamas! Edited December 30, 2008 by wulf42 Quote
Oleg Bach Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 and according to international law, Israel cannot commit collective punishment. I don't get it.. So Israel is mad because the Hamas rockets are disturbing the innocent.. So in retaliation, they will air strike and kill 300 innocent Arabs.. Hmm, nope. Sorry, doesn't make sense It's real simple - Bush has given them the go ahead - just like Sadam thought he had the okay from Washington to invade Kuiat...then Washington betrayed Sadam - and they might just betray Israel - by letting the Jews continue - Bushes last evil deed as a Christian nut bar might be to create some serious blow back against the "Christ killers" - when in reality it was the Romans who executed the king of Judea....Bush is a fundamentalist nut - and who knows what this crazed delluded born again coke head might do - or might be doing by sanctioning the bad behavior of Israel? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Actually most of the dead are Hamas! ...and that is a good thing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Actually most of the dead are Hamas! Just today, two children, 4 and 11 years old, and an adult were killed. Attacks were deliberately targeted at farmhouses and homes... A dairy factory was targeted.. You tell me, where the hell is this shit going? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 MARK MY WORD- THERE IS MORE GOING ON HERE THEN MEETS THE EYE AND EAR...THERE IS A BETRAYAL AWAITING ISRAEL...SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE - SOMETHING DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 and according to international law, Israel cannot commit collective punishment. Really? Is that the tack they are taking? Out of the 370 or so dead, about 60 are civilians....and according to international law, while cilivilian deaths are very regrettable when the deaths of civilan are unavoidable, but it is expressly permissable. I don't get it.. So Israel is mad because the Hamas rockets are disturbing the innocent.. So in retaliation, they will air strike and kill 300 innocent Arabs.. Hmm, nope. Sorry, doesn't make sense Tactical incompetence is no defence against a massive and justified retaliation. In other words, just because they are stupid and tried to kill you and missed doesn't mean they should be killed adroitly and efficiently. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Really? Is that the tack they are taking? Out of the 370 or so dead, about 60 are civilians....and according to international law, while cilivilian deaths are very regrettable when the deaths of civilan are unavoidable, but it is expressly permissable. I'm not sure what you call collective punishment.. but targeting farmhouses, dairy factories and local drug stores doesn't make the grade for you? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Just today, two children, 4 and 11 years old, and an adult were killed. Attacks were deliberately targeted at farmhouses and homes... A dairy factory was targeted.. You tell me, where the hell is this shit going? Have the rockets stopped yet? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Have the rockets stopped yet? and according to the Israelis, why should they stop? Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I'm not sure what you call collective punishment.. but targeting farmhouses, dairy factories and local drug stores doesn't make the grade for you? I didn't relaize you have access to the targetting orders...you must have a very high level of clearence. Do you also have the reason the alleged targets were chosen? Personally, if one Hamas leader was having his curds for lunch in a diary, then level the entire plant...it's all good. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 I'm not sure what you call collective punishment.. but targeting farmhouses, dairy factories and local drug stores doesn't make the grade for you? In a word, no. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 Personally, if one Hamas leader was having his curds for lunch in a diary, then level the entire plant...it's all good. and starve the rest of the population of its dairy? Quote
LesterDC Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) In a word, no. Well sorry to burst your bubble but those were all CIVILIAN buildings therefore, it is a form of collective punishment. Edited December 30, 2008 by LesterDC Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Report Posted December 30, 2008 and starve the rest of the population of its dairy? No one is starving so the hyperbole is wasted. Isarel is even allowing aid to enter the Gaza...but if destroying the cheese making capability works, go for it. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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