Tories keep massive lead

[punked]

Stop listening to the talking heads on MSM. Harpers numbers are going up in Quebec, not down.

Harper won't call an election, one of the others will force him into it. We'll go to an election with the Coalition as an issue and they will get crushed under a massive Tory majority, 200+ seats.

That is just not true.

[Mr.Canada]

That is just not true.

punked, DOn NEwman is biased. YEs, it is. Harpers stock in QUebec has gone up. He's at 32% support in Quebec.

[punked]

punked, DOn NEwman is biased. YEs, it is. Harpers stock in QUebec has gone up. He's at 32% support in Quebec.

Where do you see that? OHHHH yah you made that up. Look at the internals of the newest poll.

http://www.angus-reid.com/uppdf/2008.12.13_FederalScene.pdf

They are at 15% support. A FARRRRRRR CRY from your made up number.

Remember when I said he killed himself in Quebec well he did. the CPC polling at 15% and Harper himself polling at 10%.

Edited December 14, 2008 by punked

[Mr.Canada]

Where do you see that? OHHHH yah you made that up. Look at the internals of the newest poll.

http://www.angus-reid.com/uppdf/2008.12.13_FederalScene.pdf

They are at 15% support. A FARRRRRRR CRY from your made up number.

Remember when I said he killed himself in Quebec well he did. the CPC polling at 15% and Harper himself polling at 10%.

A Toronto Star Poll?

They are only the biggest Liberal paper in the country. I don't think we'll need believe that one.

Where did they ask these questions? In Toronto and Montreal cores?

[punked]

A Toronto Star Poll?

They are only the biggest Liberal paper in the country. I don't think we'll need believe that one.

Where did they ask these questions? In Toronto and Montreal cores?

Than show me a poll that says otherwise. Don't pretend that they have a 32% when they have 15%.

[Mr.Canada]

Harper will get his massive majority very soon then we can relax while Harper runs Canada into record surpluses and fiscally and socially conservative policies. It's going to be like heaven.

With or without Quebec, Harper will get a massive majority. Places like Toronto will start going blue as well. I'm sure you and your ilk will make more excuses than a con man and blame Harper for being mean to Prince Iggy.

Whatever.

[punked]

Harper will get his massive majority very soon then we can relax while Harper runs Canada into record surpluses and fiscally and socially conservative policies. It's going to be like heaven.

With or without Quebec, Harper will get a massive majority. Places like Toronto will start going blue as well. I'm sure you and your ilk will make more excuses than a con man and blame Harper for being mean to Prince Iggy.

Whatever.

Really because the poll I just cited had him dropping in BC too. In fact his only gains were Alberta and in the East Coast well you can only win All of Alberta once no matter if you win 100% of the vote or 60%. He isn't winning a majority with losses in Quebec and BC. He needs gains in both areas. These polls don't really mean anything but I expect Harper has hit his glass ceiling, you need a new leader.

[reasonoverpassion]

Harper will get his massive majority very soon then we can relax while Harper runs Canada into record surpluses and fiscally and socially conservative policies. It's going to be like heaven.

Harper massive majority? No chance--not now not ever. If Harper couldn't manage to get a massive majority with a weak leader Liberal leader like Dion how is going to do it with a strong one like Ignatieff. Dion had no political sense whatsoever--you just never campaign on a tax unless your preparing to eliminate or reduce it.

With or without Quebec, Harper will get a massive majority.

Harper needs 40+ Quebec seats to get a majority and he knows it. Good luck doing that now. Every vote he could possibly get in Quebec has voted BQ at one time or another-- these are the people he spent the last month denouncing.

Places like Toronto will start going blue as well.

Harper still has a long way to do in 905. He might as well keep writing off the 416

[Mr.Canada]

Harper needs 40+ Quebec seats to get a majority and he knows it. Good luck doing that now. Every vote he could possibly get in Quebec has voted BQ at one time or another-- these are the people he spent the last month denouncing

Harper still has a long way to do in 905. He might as well keep writing off the 416

Harper needs 12 seats, not 40. 25 seats the Tories lost was by less than 1,000 votes many by less than 700. Harper is going to a majority no matter what the secu-socialists say about it on MSM or here.

[punked]

Harper needs 12 seats, not 40. 25 seats the Tories lost was by less than 1,000 votes many by less than 700. Harper is going to a majority no matter what the secu-socialists say about it on MSM or here.

When he loses seats in Quebec and BC he will need to pick some up somewhere.

[Mr.Canada]

Why are the Liberals keeping Ignatieff hidden away?

[punked]

Why are the Liberals keeping Ignatieff hidden away?

REDIRECT no thank you. We are talking about Harper and where he is going to WIN seats, and how is losing them in Quebec.

[Mr.Canada]

REDIRECT no thank you. We are talking about Harper and where he is going to WIN seats, and how is losing them in Quebec.

Quebec won't vote Liberal so that point is mute. Harper will gain seats in Quebec. Is Ignatieff going to run an election on a platform with the Coalition of Separatism?

[punked]

Quebec won't vote Liberal so that point is mute. Harper will gain seats in Quebec. Is Ignatieff going to run an election on a platform with the Coalition of Separatism?

Coalition is Hugely popular is Quebec Harper is out of touch with the province like you.

[Mr.Canada]

Coalition is Hugely popular is Quebec Harper is out of touch with the province like you.

As long as the Liberals lose seats it's all good. Total destruction of that old mans arrogant party is priority number one.

[Topaz]

Quebec won't vote Liberal so that point is mute. Harper will gain seats in Quebec. Is Ignatieff going to run an election on a platform with the Coalition of Separatism?

I think I'm right when I say the Libs has more seats from Quebec than the Cons do. Correct?

[jdobbin]

They are only the biggest Liberal paper in the country. I don't think we'll need believe that one.

Where did they ask these questions? In Toronto and Montreal cores?

So you think all Angus Reid polls are suspect? Do you think the Toronto Star controls Angus Reid?

[reasonoverpassion]

I think I'm right when I say the Libs has more seats from Quebec than the Cons do. Correct?

Yes, Topaz, you are correct, 14 seats for the Liberals and 10 for the CPC.

I still say Mr. Canada-- that if Harper can't win against Dion, possibly the weakest Liberal leader ever, what chance is he going to have against Mr. Ignatieff?

Also he cannot play the game of muzzling the neo-con and social conservative elements within his party any longer. Over the course of the last parliament and during the last election, he was still playing this game. He cannot sell himself as a "compassionate conservative" any longer.

No one is buying this after the economic statement. Canadians have a clear choice now. Neo con ideologues and their discredited ideas (we only need to look to the USA to see the results of having them in power) and a new way forward.

[Mr.Canada]

So you think all Angus Reid polls are suspect? Do you think the Toronto Star controls Angus Reid?

I know that they pay them money to have thier names together. That alone is suspect. It doesn't send the message that it's an independant poll does it.

[Oleg Bach]

With corporate control being so strong - I very much doubt if polls are not maniplated. Why would they not be.. If I was some corporate tycoon..I would make sure I owned the damned things also.

[jdobbin]

I know that they pay them money to have thier names together. That alone is suspect. It doesn't send the message that it's an independant poll does it.

So I guess that means Ipsos and Canwest polls are suspect too, huh?

[stignasty]

From December 11 to December 12, 2008 Angus Reid Strategies conducted an online survey among 1,004 randomly selected Canadian adults who are Angus Reid Forum panelists. The margin of error—which measures sampling variability—is +/- 3.1%, 19 times out of 20. The results have been statistically weighted according to the most current education, age, gender and region Census data to ensure a sample representative of the entire adult population of Canada. Discrepancies in or between totals are due to rounding.

Why rely on facts when making stuff up is so much more fun?

[Mr.Canada]

So I guess that means Ipsos and Canwest polls are suspect too, huh?

They are neither holy nor divine therefore suspect.

[Michael Hardner]

I find those who suspect the polls are most often the same types of people who have no idea how these things work. The polling companies wouldn't be in business long if they published bad information.

[M.Dancer]

I know that they pay them money to have thier names together. That alone is suspect. It doesn't send the message that it's an independant poll does it.

CLANG!!!

Do you suppose polling companies work pro bono?

You could if you want have your own poll comissioned...it would cost you....and you would have no control of the results...only the questions.